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men ; and you pass laws, enabling them to command oath of supremacy, which he is certain not one of all your fleets and armies, and then you turn round them will take. If this is not calumnny and injus. upon the very man you have made the master of the tice, I know not what human conduct can deserve the European seas, and the arbiter of nations, and tell him name. he is not to be believed on his oath.

If you believe the oath of a Catholic, see what he I have lived a little in the world, but I never hap- will swear, and what he will not swear; read the oaths pened to hear a single Catholic even suspected of get- he already takes, and say whether, in common can. ting into office by violating his oath; the oath which dour or in common sense, you can require more secuthey are accused of violating is an insuperable barrier rity than he offers you. Before the year 1793, the to them all. Is there a miore disgraceful spectacle in Catholic was subject to many more vexatious laws the world than that of the Duke of Norfolk hovering than he now is; in that year an act passed in his fa. round the House of Lords in the execution of his office, your

vour, but before the Catholic could exempt himself which he cannot enter as a peer of the realm ? dis- from his ancient pains and penalties, it was necessary graceful to the bigotry and injustice of his country, to to take an oath. This oath was, I believe, drawn up his own sense of duty honourable in the extreme; he by Dr. Duigenan, the bitter and implacable enemy of is the leader of a band of ancient and high-principled the sect; and it is so important an oath, so little known gentlemen, who submit patiently to obscurity and pric and read in England, that I cannot, in spite of my vation, rather than do violence to their conscience.-wish to be briet, abstain from quoting it. I deny your lu all the fury of party, I never heard the name of a right to call no Popery, till you are master of its con. single Catholic mentioned, who was suspected of hav. tents. ing gained, or aimed at, any political advantage, by I do swear, that I do abjure, condemn, and deviolating his oath. I have never heard so bitter å test, as unchristian and impious, the principle, that slander supported by the slightest proof. Every man it is lawful to murder, destroy, or any ways injure, in the circle of his acquaintance has met with Catho- any person whatsoever, for or under the pretext of lics, and lived with them probably as companions. If being a heretic; and I do declare solemnly, before this inimoral lubric

characteristic, it God, that I believe no act, in itself unjust, immmoral, would surely be perceived in common life. Every or wicked, can ever be justified or excused by or un. man's experience would corroborate the imputation; der pretence or colour, that it was done either for the but I can honestly say that some of the best and most good of the church, or in obedience to any ecclesiasexcellent men I have ever met with have been Catho-tical power whatsoever. I also declare that it is not lics; perfectly alive to the evil and inconvenience of an article of the Catholic faith, neither am I hereby their situation, but thinking themselves bound by the required to believe or profess, that the pope is infalli. law of God and the law of honour, not to avoid perse ble; or that I am bound to obey any order, in its own cution by falsehood and apostasy. But why (as has nature immoral, though the pope, or any ecclesiasti. been asked ten thousand times before) do you lay such cal power, should issue or direct such order; but, on a stress upou these oaths of exclusion, if the Catho-the contrary, I hold that it would be sini'ul in me to pay lies do not respect oaths? You compel me, a Catho. any respect or obedience thereto. I further declare, lic, to make a declaration against transubstantiation, that I do not believe that any sin whatsnever commitfor what purpose but to keep me out of Parliament?ted by me, can be forgiven at the mere will of any pope Why, then, I respect oaths and declarations, or else I or any priest, or of any persous whatsoever; but that should perjure myself, and get into Parliament ; and sincere sorrow for past sins, a firm and sincere reso. if I do not respect oaths, of what use is it to enact lution to avoid future guilt, and to atone to God, are them to keep me out? A farmer has some sheep, previous and indispensable requisites to establish a which he chooses to keep from a certain field, and to well-tounded expectation of forgiveness; and that any effect this object, he builds a wall: there are two ob- person who receives absolution, without these previ. jections to his proceeding; the first is, that it is for the ous requisites, so far from obtaining thereby any regood of the farm that the sheep should come into the mission of his sins, incurs the additional guilt of viofield ; and so the wall is not only useless, but perni- lating a sacrament; and I do swear, that I will cious. The second is, that he himself thoroughly be defend, to the utm lives at the time of building the wall, that all the arrangement of property in This country, as establishsheep are in the constant habit of leaping over such ed by the laws now in being.--I do hereby disclaim, walls. His first intention with respect to the sheep is disavow, and solemnly abjure any intention to subveri absurd, his means more absurd, and his error is periect the present church establishment, for the purpose of in all its parts. He tries to do that which, if he suc- substituting a Catholic establishment in its stead; and ceeds will be very foolishi, and tries to do it by means I do solemnly swear, that I will not exercise any which he himselt, at the time of using them, admits privilege to which I am or may become entitled, to to be inadequate to the purpose ; but I hope ihis ob- disturb and weaken the Protestant religion, and Projection to the oaths of Catholics is disappearing ; I be testant government in this kingdom. So help me liere neither Lord Liverpool nor Mr. Peel, (a very God.' candid and honourable man), nor the archbishops This oath is taken by every Catholic in Ireland, and (who are both gentlemen), nor Lord Eldon, nor Lord a similar oath, allowing for the difference of circum. Stowell (whose Protestanism nobody calls in ques-stances of the two countries, is taken in England.

ich a charge. It is confined to It appears from the evidence taken before the two provincial violence, and to the politicians of the second houses, and lately printed, that if Catholic emancipa. i ble. I remember hearing the Catholics from the tion were carried, there would be little or no difficulty bustings of an election accused of disregarding oaths, in obtaining from the pope an agreement, that the and within an hour from that time, I saw five Catho- nomination of the Irish Catholic bishops should be lic voters rejected, because they would not take the made at home constitutionally by the Catholics, as it oath of supremacy; and these were not men of rank is now in fact,* and in praciice, and that the Irish who tendered themselves, but ordinary tradesmen.-prelates would go a great way, in arranging a system The accusation was received with loud huzzas ; the of general education, if the spirit of proselytism,

erved and in silence. No which now renders such a union impossible, were laid one praised the conscientious feelings of the constitu- aside. This great measure carried, the Irish Cathoents; no one rebuked the calumny of the candidate. lics would give up all their endowments abroad, if This is precisely the way in which the Catholics are they receive for them an equivalent at home; for now treated; the very same man who encourages among Irish priests are fast resorting to the continent for t is partisans the doctrine that Catholics are not to be education, allured by the endowments which the believed upon their oaths, directs his agents upon the French government are'cunningly restoring and aug. hustings, to be very watchful that all Catholics should be prevented from voting, by tendering to them the * The Catholic bishops since the death of the pretender, menting. The intercourse with the see of Rome, I will continue the incapacities of the men of this age, might and would, after Catholic emancipation, be so because some men, in distant ages, deserved ill of managed, that it should be open, upon grave occa. other men in distant ages. They shall expiate the sions, or, if thought proper, on every occasion, to the crimes committed, before they were born, in a land inspection of commissioners. There is no security they never saw, by individuals they never heard or. compatible with the safety of their faith, which the I will charge them with every act of folly which they Catholics are not willing to give. But what is Catho- have never sanctioned and cannot control. I will lic emancipation as far as England is concerned? not sacrifice space, time, and identity, to my zeal for the an equal right to office with the member of the Church Protestant Church. Now, in the midst of all this vioof England, but a participation in the same pains and lence, consider, for a moment, how you are imposed penalties as those, to which the Protestant dissenter upon by words, and what a serious violation of the is subjected by the corporation and test acts. If the rights of your fellow-creatures you are committing. utility of these last mentioned laws is to be measured Mr. Murphy lives in Limerick, and Mr. Murphy and by the horror and perturbatiion their repeal would ex- his son are subjected to a thousand inconveniences and cíte, they are laws of the utmost importance to the disadvantages because they are Catholics. Murphy defence of the English Church : but if it be of impor. is a wealthy, honourable, and excellent man; he ought tance to the church that pains and penalties should be to be in the corporation; he cannot get in because he is thus kept suspended over men's heads, then these a Catholic. His son ought to be king's counsel for his bills are an effectual security against Catholics as well talents, and his standing at the bar; he is prerenied as Protestants; and the manacles so much confided from reaching this dignity because he is a Catholic. in, are not taken off, but loosened, and the prayer of a Why, what reasons do you hear tor all this? Because Catholic is this:- I cannot now become an alder. Queen Mary, three hundred years before the natal day man without perjury. I pray of you to improve my of Mr. Murphy, murdered Protestanis in Smithfield; condition so fa

are fecommended either by the chapters or the parochial * There is no law to prevent a Catholic from having the clergy, to the pope; and there is no instance of his deviacommand of a British fleet or a British army.

I ting from their choice.

i alderman I may because Louis XIV. dragooned his Protestant subbe only exposed to a penalty of 5001. There are twojects, when the predecessor of Murphy's predecessor common errors upon the subject of Catholic emancipa- was not in being ; because men are contined in prison tion; the one, that the emancipated Catholic is to be at Madrid, twelve degrees more south than Murphy put on a better footing than the Protestant dissenter, has ever been in his life; all ages, all climates, are whereas he will be put precisely on the same footing; ransacked to perpetuate the slavery of Murphy, the the other, that he is to be admitted to civil offices, ill-fated victim of political anachronisme without any guard, exception, or reserve; whereas, in Suppose a barrister, in defending a prisoner, were the various bills which have been from time to time to say to the judge, • My Lord, I humply subinit to brought forward, the legal wit of man has been ex. your lordship that the indictment against the prisones hausted to provide against every surmise, suspicion, cannot stand good in law; and as the safety of a tel. and whisper of the most remote danger to the Protes- low-creature is concerned, I request your lordship's tant church

patient attention to my objections. In the first place, The Catholic question is not an English question, the indictmeni does not pretend that the prisoner at but an Irish one; or rather, it is no otherwise an En. the bar is not himselt guilty of the offence, but that glish question than as it is an Irish one. As for the some persons of the same religious sect as himself are handful of Catholics that are in England, no one, Iso; in whose crime he cannot (I subinit). by any pos. presuine, can be so extravagant as to contend, if they sibility, be implicated, as these criminal persons lived were the only Catholics' we had to do with, that it three hundred years before the prisoner was born. In would be of the slightest possible consequence to what the next place, my lord, the cenue of several crimes offices of the state they were admitted. It would be imputed to the prisoner is laid in countries to which quite as necessary to exclude the Sandemanians, who the jurisdiction of this country does uot extend; in are sixteen in number, or to make a test act against France, Spain, and Italy, where also the prisoner has the followers of Joanna Southcote, who amount to one never been; and as to the argument used by my hundred and twenty persons. A little chalk on the learned brother, that it is only want of power and not wall and a profound ignorance of the subject, soon raise want of will, and that the prisoner would commit the a cry of no Popery; but I question it the danger of crime if he could ; I humbly submit that the custom admitting

iers to the oi England has been to wait for the overt act betore benefits of the constitution could raise a mob in any pain and penalty are inflicted, and that your lordship market town in England. Whatever good may accrue would pass a mosi doleful assize, if punishment de. to England from the emancipation, or evil may befall pended upon evil volition; if men were subjected to this country for withholding emancipation, will reach legal incapacities from the mere suspicion that they us only through the medium of Ireland.

|u'ould do harın if they could : and if it were admitted. I beg to remind you, that in talking of the Catholic to be sufficient proof of this suspicion, that men of religion, you must talk of the Catholic religion as it is this faith in distant ages, different countries, and carried on in Ireland ; you have nothing to do with under different circumstances, had planned evil, and Spain, or France, or Italy: the religion you are to when occasion offered, done it.' examine is the Irish Catholic religion. You are not When are mercy and justice, in fact, ever to return to consider what it was, but what it is ; not what indi. upon the earth, if the sins of the elders are to be for viduals profcss, but what is generally practised. I ever visited on these who are not even their children? constantly see, in advertisements from county meet. Should the first act of liberated Greece be to recomings, all these sp

nese species of monstrous injustice played mence the Trojan war? Are the French never off' against the Catholics. The Inquisition exists in get the Sicilian vespers; or the Americans the long Spain and Portugal, therefore I confound place, and war waged against their liberties? Is any rule wise, vote against the Catholics of Ireland, where it never which may set the Irish to recollect what they hare did exist, nor was purposed to be instituted. There suffered! have been many cruel persecutions of Protestants by The real danger is this—that you have four Irish Catholic governments; and therefore I will confound Catholics for one Irish Protestant. That is the maitime and place, and vote against the Irish, who live ter of fact, which none of us can help. Is it better pocenturies after these persecutions, and in a totally dif. licy to make friends, rather than enemies, of this im. terent country. Doctor this

ctor this, or Doctor that, of the mense population? I allow there is danger to the Catholic Church, has written a very violent and absurd Protestant Church, but much more danger, I am sure pamphlet; therefore I will confound persons, and vote there is, in resisting, than admitting the claims of the against the whole Irish Catholic church, which has Catholics. If I might indulge in visions of glory, and neither sanctioned nor expressed any such opinions. imagine myself an Irish dean or bishop, with an im

mense ecclesiastical income ; if the justice or injustice * While Mary was burning Protestants in England not

of the case were entirely indifferent to me, and my a single Protestant was executed in Ireland : and yet the only object were to live at ease in my possessions, terrors of that reign are, at this moment, one of the most there is no measure for which I should be so antious as operative causes of the exclusion of Irish Catholics. Tthat of Catholic emancipation. The Catholics are now


extremely angry and discontented at being shut out / ernment dare not at this moment remove a single regi. from so many offices and honours; the incapacities to ment from Ireland. Abolish these absurd and diswhich they are subjected thwart them in all their pur. graceful distinctions, and a few troops of horse to help suits; they feel they are a degraded caste. The Pro- the constables on fair days will be more than sufficient testant feels he is a privileged caste, and not only the for the Catholic limb of the empire. Protestant gentleman feels this, but every Protestant Now for a very few of the shameful misrepresentaservant feels it, and takes care that his Catholic fel. tions circulated respecting the Irish Catholics, for I low-servant shall perceive it. The difference between repeat again that we have nothing to do with Spanish the two religions is an eternal source of enmity, ill. or Italian, but with Irish Catholics ; it is not true that will, and hatred, and the Catholic remains in a state the Irish Catholics refuse to circulate the Bible in Engof permanent disatiection to the government under lish ; on the contrary, they have in Ireland circulated which he lives. I repeat that if I were a member of several editions of the Scriptures in English. In the the Irish church, I should be afraid of this position of last year, the Catholic prelaies prepared and put forth affairs. I should fear it in peace, on account of riota

ype edition of the Bible, of a small print and and insurrection, and in war, on account of rebellion. low price, to insure its general circulation. They cir. I should think that my greatest security consisted in culate the Bible with their own notes, and how, as removing all just cause of complaint from the Catholic Catholics, can they act otherwise ? Are not our presociety, in endearing them to the English constitution, I lates and Bartlett's buildings a

acting in the same man. by making them feel, as soon as possible, that they ner? And must not all churches, if they are consist. shared in its blessings. I should really think my ent, act in the same manner? The Bibles Catholics tithes and my glebe, upon such a plan, worth twenty quarrel with, are Protestant Bibles without notes, or years' purchase more than under the present system. Protestant Bibles with Protestant notes, and how can Suppose the Catholic layman were to think it an evil, they do otherwise without giving up their religion that his own church should be less splendidly endow. They deny, upon oath, that the infallibility of the pope ed than that of the Protestant Church, whose popula. is any necessary part of the Catholic faith. They, uption is so inferior; yet if he were free himself, and had on oath, declare that Catholic people are forbidden io nothing to complain of, he would not rush into rebeld worship images, and saints, and relics. They, upon lion and insurrection

ment the income oath, al'ure the temporal power of the pope, or his of his priest. At present you bind the laity and cler-right to absolve any Catholic from his oath. They gy in one common feeling of injustice ; each feels for renounce, upon oath, all right to forfeit lands, and cov. himself, and talks of the injuries of the other. The enant upon oath, not to destroy or plot against the obvious consequence of Catholic emancipation would Irish Protestant Church. What more can any man be to separate their interests. But another important want whom any thing will content ? consequence of Catholic emancipation would be to im. Some people talk as if they were quite teased and prove the condition of the clergy. Their chapels worried by the eternal clamours of the Catholies; but would be put in order, their incomes increased, and if you are eternally unjust, can you expect anything we should soon hear nothing more of the Catholic 1 more Church. If this measure were carried in March, I be injustice? You want all the luxury of oppression lieve by the January following, the whole question without any of its inconvenience. I should think the would be as completely forgotten as the sweating Catholics very much to blame, if they ever ceased to sickness, and that nine Doctor Doyles, at the rate of importune the legislature for justice, so long as they thirty years to a Doyle, would pass away one after could find one single member of Parliament who wouid the other, before any human being heard another syl. | advocate their cause. lable on the subject. All men gradually yield to the The putting the matter to rest by an effort of the cornforts of a good income. Give the Irish archbishop county of York, or by any decision of Parliament £1200 per annum; the bishop £800, the priest £200, against them, is utterly hopeless. Every year in. the coadjutor £100, per annum, and the cathedral of creases the Catholic population, and the Catholic Dublin is almost as safe as the cathedral of York. wealth, and the Catholic claims, till you are caught in This is the real secret of putting an end to the Catho- one of those political attitudes to which all countries lic question; there is no other; but, remember, I am are occasionally exposed, in which you are uticrly speaking of provision for the Catholic clergy after helpless, and must give way to their claims; and if emancipation, not before. There is not an Irish cler. you do it then, you will do it badly; you may call it gyman of the Church of Rome who would touch one an arrangement, but arrangements made at such times penny of the public money before the laity were re are much like the bargains between an highwayman stored to civil rights,--and why not pay the Catholic and a travell

not pa v the Catholic , and a traveller, a pistol on one side, and a purse on clergy as well as the Presbyterian clergy? Ever the other; the rapid scramble of armed violence, and since the year 1803, the Presbyterian clergy in the the unqualified surrender of helpless timidity. If you North of Ireland have been paid by the government, think the thing must be done at some time or another, do and the grant is annually brought forward in Parlia- it when you are calm and pouerful, and when you need

nd not only are the Presbyterians paid. but not do it. one or two other species of Protestant dissenters. There are a set of high-spirited men who are very The consequence has been loyalty and peace. This much afraid of being afraid ; who cannot brook the way of appeasing dissenters you may call expensive, | idea of doing any thing froin fear, and whose converbut is there no expense in injustice ? You have at sation is full of fire and sword, when any apprehen. this moment an army of 20.000 men in Ireland, horse,sion of resistance is alluded to. I have a perfect con. foot, and artillery, at an annual expense of a million fidence in the high and unyielding spirit, and in the and a half of money; about one third of this sum military courage of the English; and I have no doubt would be the expense of the allowance to the Catholic but that many of the country gentlemen, who now call clergy; and this army is so necessary, that the gor. out no Popery, would fearlessly put themselves at the

head of their embattled yeomanry, to control the Irish

Catholics. My objection to such courage is, that it * I say almost, because I hate to overstate an argument,

would certainly be exercised unjustly, and probably and it is impossible to deny that there is danger to a church

l exercised in vain. I should deprecate any rising of the to which seven millions contribute larvely, and in which six millions disbelieve: my argument nierelv is, that such a Catholics as the most grievous inisfortune which could church would be more sate in proportion as it interfered happen to the empire and to themselves. They had less with the comforts and ease of its natural enemies, and far better endure all they do endure, and a great deal

position more desirable and agreeable, I worse, than try the experiment. But if they do iry it, firmly believe the Toleration Act to be quite as conducive you may depend upon it, they vill do it at their oun to the security of the Church of England as it is to the dis- 1 time, and not at yours. They will not select a fortnight senters. Perfect toleration and the abolition of every in

| in the summer, during a profound peace, when corn capacity as a consequence of religious opinions, are not, what is commonly called a recent for innovation, but á land money abound, and when the Catholics of Europe receipt for the quiet and permanence of every estabish are unconcerned spectators. If you make a resolution ment which has the real good sense to adopt it.

I to be unjust, you must make another resolution to be always strong, always vigilant, and always rich; you that they may become his loyal subjects. Great Bri. must commit no blunders

exhibit no deficiencies, and tain for erer ; therefore emancipate the Catholics, that ineet with no mistortunes; you must present a square they may not put an end to its perpetuity. Our gorainphalanx of impenetrable strength, for keen-eyed re- i ment is essentially Protestant; therefore, by emancipa. venge is riding round your ranks; and if one heart fal. ting the Catholics, give up a few circumsiances which ters, or one hand trembles, you are lost.

have nothing to do with the essence. The Catholic You may call all this threatening ; I am sure I have are disguised enemies; therefore, by emancipation, no such absurd intention; but wish only, in sober sad. turn them into open friends. They have a double aile ness, to point out what appears to me to be the inevi. giance ; therefore, by emancipation, make their alle. Lable consequences of the conduct we purslie. If dan. giance to their king so grateful, that they will never ger be not pointed out and insisted upon, how is it to confound it with the spiritual allegiance to their pope. be avoided? My firm beliet' is, that England will be It is very difficult for electors, who are much compelled to grant ignominiously what she now re- by other matters, to choose the right path amid the fuses haughtily. Remember whai happened respect. rage and fury of faction ; but I give you one marking Ireland in the American war. In 1779, the Irish, vote for a free altar; give what the law compels you to whose trade was completely restricted by English give to the establishment; (that done,) no chains, no laws, asked for some little relaxation, some liberty to prisons, no bonfires for a man's faith; and above all, export her own products, and to import the products no modern chains and prisons under the names of disof other countries; their petition was fiung out of the qualifications and incapacities, which are only the crue House with the utmost disdain, and by an immense elly and tyranny of a more civilized age ; civil offices majority. In April, 1782, 70,000 Irish volunteers were open to all, a Catholic or a Protestant alderman, a under arins

entatives of 170 armed corps Moravian, or a Church of England, or a Wesleyan met at Ulster, and the English Parliament (the Lords justice, no oppression, no tyranny in belief : a free aitar, and Commons both on the same day and with only one an open road to heaven ; no human insolence, no human dissentient voice, the ministers moving the question) narrouness, halloued by the name of God. were compelled, in the most disgraceful and precipi. Every man in trade must have experienced the diftate manner, to acknowledge the complete indepen-ficulty of getting in a bill from an unwilling paymaster dance of the Irish nation, and nothing but the good If you call in the morning, the gentleman is not up sense and moderation of Grattan prevented the separation it in the middle of the day, he is out; if in the evet. of the tuo crowns.

ing, there is company. If you ask mildly, you are in. It is no part of my province to defend every error different to the time of payment ; if you press, you of the Catholic church: I believe it has many errors,

rtinent. No time and no manner can reuder though I am sure these errors are grievously exagge- such a message agreeable. So it is with the poor Ca. rated and misrepresented. I should think it a vast tholics; their message is so disagreeable, that their accession to the happiness of mankind, if every Catho. time and manner can never be right. Not this ses. lic in Europe were converted to the Protestant faith. sion. Not now; on no account at the present time; The question is not, whether there shall be Catholics, I av v other time than this. The great mass of the Ca. but the question (as they do exist and you cannot get tholics are so torpid on the subject, that the question rid of them) is, what are you to do with them? Are is clearly confined to the ambition of the few, or the you to make men rebels because you cannot make whole Catholic population are so leagued together, them Protestants and are you to endanger your state that the object is clearly to intimidate the mother. because you cannot enlarge your church? England is country. In short, the Catholics want justice, and the ark of liberty: the English Church I believe to be we do not mean to be and the most s one of the best establishinents in the world; but what thod of refusal is, to have it believed that they are is to become of England, of its church, its free insti. refused from their own folly, and not from our fault. tutions, and the beautiful political model it holds out! What if O'Connell (a man certainly ot extraordinato mankind, if Ireland should succeed in connecting ry talents and eloquence) is sometimes violent and initself with any other European power hostile to Eng. judicious ? What if O'Gorman or O'Sullivan hare land ? I join in the cry of no Popery as lustily as any spoken ill of the Reformation? Is it a great stroke of man in the streets who does not know whether the national policy to depend on such childish considerapope lives in Cumberland or Westmoreland ; but Itions as these? If these chains ought to remain, know that it is impossible to keep down European could I be induced to remove them by the chaste lanPopery, and European tyranny, without the assistance guage and humble deportment of him who wears or with the opposition of Ireland. If you give the Irish thein? If they ought to be struck away, would I their privileges, the spirit of the nation will overcome continue them, because my taste was offended by the the si rit of the church ; the

hey will cheerfully serve coarse insolence of a goaded and injured captive! you against all enemies, and chant a Te Deum for Would I make that great measure to depend on the your victories over all the Catholic armies of Europe. irritability of my own feelings, which ought to depend If it be true, as her eneinies say, that the Roman Ca. upon policy and justice? The more violent and the tholic church is waging war all over Europe against more absurd the conduct of the Catholics, the greater common sense, against public liberty; selling the peo. the wisdom of emancipation. If they were always gople to the kings and nobles, and labouring for the few verned by men of consummate prudence and moderaagainst the mmy; all this is an additional reason why tion, your justice in refusing would be the same, but I would fortify England and Protestantism by erery your danger would be less. The levity and irritability concession to Ireland : why I should take care that of the Irish character are pressing reasons why all just our attention was not distracted, nor our strength I causes of provocation should be taken away, and th wasted by internal dissension ; why I would not para-high passinns enlisted in the service of the empire. lyze those arms which wield the sword of justice In talking of the spirit of the papal empire, it is of among the nations of the world, and lift up the buckten argued that the will remains the same; that the ler of safety. If the Catholic religion in Ireland is an pontifluould, if he could, exercise the same in tiuence abuse, you must tolerate that abuse, lo prevent its in Europe; that the Catholic Church would, if it could, extension and tyranny over the rest of Europe. If you tyrannize over the rights and opinions of mankind! will take a long view instead of a confined view, and but if the power is taken away, what signifies the look generally to the increase of human happiness, / will? If the pope thunders in vain against the king the best check upon the increase of Popery, the best secu-doms of the earth, of what consequence is his disposirity for the establishment of the Protestant Church is, i tion to thunder? It mankind are too enlightened and that the British empire shall be preserved in a slate of 100 huinane to submit to the cruelties and batreds of a the greatest strength, union, and opulence. My cry, Catholic priesthood; if the Protestants of the empire then, is, no Popery ; therefore emancipate the Catho. are sufficiently strong to resist it, why are we to alarm ncs, that they may not join with foreign Papists in ourselves with the barren volition, unseconded by the time of war. Church for ever; therefore emancipate requisite power? I hardly know in what order or de the Catholics, that they may not help to pull it down. scription of men I should choose to confide, if they King for ever; therefore emancipate the Catholics, I could do as they would ; the best security is, that the


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rest of the world will not let them do as they wish to | ica, will be upon us. The Catholics will watch their to do; and having satisfied myself of this, I am not opportunity, and soon settle the question of Catholic very careful about the rest.

I einancipation. To suppose that any nation can go on Our government is called essentially Protestant ; in the midst of foreign wars, denying common justice but it it be essentially Protestant in the imposition of to seven millions of men, in the heart of the empire, taxes, it should be essentially Protestant in the dis. awakened to their situation, and watching for the crit. tribution of ottices. The treasury is open to all religi. ical moment of redress, does, I confess, appear to me ons, Parliainent only to one. The tax-gatherer is the to be the height of extravagance. To foretell the conmost indulgent and liberal of human beings : he ex. sequence of such causes, in my humble apprehension, cludes no creed, imposes no articles; but counts Ca. demands no more ot' shrewdness than to point out the tholic cash, pockets Protestant paper; and is candidly probable results of leaving a lighted candle stuck up and impartially oppressive to every description of the in an open barrel of gunpowder. Christian world. Can any thing be more base than It is very difficult to make the mass of mankind be. when you want the blood or the money of the Catho. lieve that the state of things is ever to be otherwise

t that they are Catholics, and to remem- than they have been accustomed to see it. I have ber only that they are British subjects; and when very often heard old persons describe the impossibili. they ask for the benefits of the British constitution, to ty of making any one believe that the American colo. remember only that they are Catholics, and to forget nies could ever be separated from this country. It that they are British subjects ?

was always considered as an idle dream of discontent. No Popery, was the cry of the great English Revo- ed politicians, good enough to fill up the periods of a lution, because the increase and prevalence of Popery speech, but which no practical man, devoid of the spi. in England would, at that period, have rendered this rit of party, considered to be within the limits of pos. island tributary to France. The Irish Catholics were, sibility. There was a period when the slightest con. at that period, broken to pieces by the severity and cession would have satistied the Ainericans ; but all military execution of Cromwell, and by the penal laws. The world was in heroics, one set of gentlemen met at They are since become a great and formidable people, the Lamb, and another at the Lion ; blood and treasure The same dread of foreign influence makes it now ne. men, breathing war, vengeance, and contempt; and in cessary that they should be restored to political rights. eight years afterwards, an awkward-looking genile. Must the friends of rational liberty join in a clamour man in plain clothes walked up to the drawing-room against the Catholics now, because, in a very ditlerent otSt. James's, in the inidst of the gentlemen of the state of the world, they excited that clamour a hun. Lion and Lamb, aud was introduced as the Ambassador dred years ago? I remember a house near Battersea from the United States of America. Bridge which caught fire, and there was a general cry! You must forgive ine if I draw illustrations from of · Water, water! Ten years after, the Thames common things--but in seeing swine driven, I have rose, and the people of the house were nearly drowned. often thought of the Catholic question, and of the dif. Would it not have been rather singular to have said ferent methods of governing mankind. The object, to the inhabitants, ' I heard you calling for water ten one day, was to drive some of these animals along a years ago, why don't you call for it now?'

path to a field where they had not been before. The There are some men who think the present times so inan could by no means succeed; instead of turning incapable of forming any opinions, that they are al. their faces to the

ding quietly along, ways looking back to the wisdom of our ancestors. they made for the cast and west, rushed back to the Now, as the Catholics sat in the English parliament to souih, and positively refused to advance; a reinforcethe reign of Charles II. and in the Irish Parliament, I ment of rustics was called for ; maids, children, neighbelieve, till the reign of King William, the precedents bours, all helped ; a general rushing, screaming, and are more in their favour than otherwise ; and to re- roaring ensued; but the main object was not in the place them in Parliament seems rather to return to, slightest degree advanced. After a long delay, we than to deviate from, the practice of our ancestors. Tresolved (though an hour before we should have dis

If the Catholics are priest-ridden, pamper the rider, dained such a compromise) to have recourse to Cathoand he will not stick so close ; don't torment the ani. Ilic emancipation ; a little boy was sent before them mal ridden, and his violence will be less dangerous, with a handful of barley; a few grains were scattered

wit The strongest evidence against the Catholics is that in the path, and the bristly herd were speedily and of Colonel John Irvine ; he puts every thing against safely conducted to the place of their destination. If, them in the strongest light, and Colonel Johi: (with instead of putting Lord Stowell out of breath with dri. great actual, though, I am sure, with no intentional ving-compelling the Duke of York to swear, and the exaggeration) does not pretend to say there would be chancellor to strike at them with the mace, Lord Li. more than forty-six members returned for Ireland who verpool would condescend, in his graceful inanner, to were Catholics ; but how many members are there in walk before the Catholic doctors with a basket of bar. the House now returned by catholics, and compelled, ley, what a deal of ink and blood would be saved to from the fear of losing their seats, to vote in favour mankind. of every measure which concerns the Catholic Church? Because the Catholics are intolerant ue uill be intoleThe Catholic party, as the colonel justly observes, rant; but did any body ever hear before that a governwas formed when you admitted them to ihe elective ment is to imitate the vices of its subjects? If the franchise. The Caiholic party are increasing so much Irish were a rash, violent, and intemperate race, are in boldness, that they will soon require of the mem- they to be treated with rashness, violence, and intembers they return, to oppose generally any government perance? If they were addicted to fraud and falsehood, hostile to Catholic emancipation, and they will turn out are they to be treated by those who rule them with those who do not comply with this rule. If this is fraud and falsehood? Are there to be perpetual races done, the phalanx so much dreaded from emancipa. in error and vice between the people and the lords of at once without emancipation. This con. the people? Is the supreme

con. the people? Is the supreme power always to find vir. sequence of resistance to the Catholic claims is well tues among the people ; never to teach them by exam. worth the attention of those who make use of the cry ple, or improve them by laws and institutions ?' Make of no Popery, as a mere political engine.

all sects tree, and let them learn ihe value of the bless. We are taunted with our prophetical spirit, because ing to others by their own enjoyment of it ; but if not, it is said by the advocates of the Catholic question let them learn it by your vigilance and firm resistance that the thing must come to pass; that it is inevita. to every thing intolerant. Toleration will then be. ble : our prophecy, however, is founded upon experi. come a habit and a practice ingrafted upon the man. ence and common sense, and is nothing more ihan Ders of a people, when they find the law too strong for the application of the past to the future. In a few them, and that there is no use in being intolerant. years time, when the madness and wretchedness of war It is very true that the Catholics have a double alle. are forgotten, when the greater part of those who have giance, but it is equally true that their second or spi. lost in war, legs and arms, health and sons, have gone to their graves, the same scenes will be acted over * The same double allegiance exists in every Catholic again in the world. France, Spain, Russia and in Europe. The spiritual head of the country

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