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and unsettled regions of the West. And, sir, we upon the bill now before the Senate. I will not There are four original bills, four substitutes for cannot do better for this citizen soldier than to give say that I am as reluctant to speak as those who those original bills, and five amendments to those him a homestead upon the soil he may have saved, are here may be to listen. Their reluctance to bills, or to the amendments of those bills, making and protect him by the Government he has de hear may be greater than mine to speak; and I thirteen distinct propositions pending before the fended; and settlements founded by these men, should certainly remain silent but for the length Senate when they shall be severally in order. who have had the discipline and devotion of sol ened discussion that we have had, during which Five of them have been printed and laid on our diers, will be safe depositories of the institutions certain assertions have been made, opinions ex tables to-day for the first time. Two only out of of free government. The savage on the one side, pressed, and principles advocated on which I feel the whole thirteen were ever investigated or examor the traitor on the other, will never invade his bound to make some comments before I give my ined by any committee of this body, leaving eleven quarters. So then I say that while we are pre vote. In as brief terms as I can command, I will of the thirteen propositions here that have never paring for the exigencies of war, let us not forget address myself to the matter in hand without any been examined by a committee, and five of them the condition of peace.

apology for so doing. It seems to me as much the never printed by order of the body until to-day. For my own part, I begin to see, at least, the right of those who are postponed to a late period || Under these circumstances Senators ought not to beginning of the end. We have just passed the of the debate to be heard, as it is of those who may complain that any one who may deem it proper anniversary of the President's first proclamation chance to get the ear of the Senate earlier in the to offer a few remarks, it having been determined for troops. He will never need to issue another. discussion; and those gentlemen especially who | by the Senate that it was not best to refer this subThe loyal heart of the natiou is beating. The real have favored us with lengthened remarks from day || ject to a committee, but to discuss it here, should cause of the rebellion begins to be seen, and when to day, ought not to be very impatient if one who occupy a few moments in discussing these several fairly discovered it will be struck; whether that has hitherio said nothing says a few words now. propositions. I am not, however, sir, by any uplifted arm which deals the blow be loyalist or An indifferent spectator who had attended our means going to comment upon these several bills rebel, it matters not. Some threatening edifices debates for days and weeks past would, I think, to which I have alluded, being the bill of the Senhave crumbled of their own weakness and weight; || naturally have arrived at the conclusion that there ator from Minois, (Mr. TRUMBULL,) the bill of some have melted away before the force of an in were two parties in the Senate upoir this question, the Senator from New York, (Mr. HARRIS,] the vading foe; but others, still, have stood in tower and that the division was made on very strange bill of the Senator from Pennsylvania, (Mr. ing magnificence until swept away by the breath || principles, the one of those parties made up of the Cowan,) and the bill of the Senator from Wisof the Almighty.

supporters and defenders of the Constitution of consin, (Mr. Doolittle.] The amendments are Slavery has had its day and run iis course. Il the country, the other of those who love the coun the amendment of the Senator from Ohio, (Mr. once triumphed in these Halls of legislation, in try and who are prepared to defend it, to hold as SHERMAN,] the amendment of the Senator from the press of the country and in the literature, ay, enemies and to do battle against all who are try Kentucky, (Mr. Davis,) the amendment of the the religion of the land. But neither Congress, || ing to overthrow and destroy it; in other words, | Senator from Massachusetts, (Mr. Wilson,) and the press, or the pulpit will ever come again to the that here was a strife between those who loved the the amendment of the Senator from Vermont, (Mr. rescue of slavery. It must be buried in a dishon- | country and those who loved the Constitution, | COLLAMER.) Then the amendments to amendored and hopeless grave. Let it go, “ unwept, between patriots and constitutionalists; a most ments are those of the Senator from Massachuunhonored, and unsung.'

strange and unnatural antagonism, not merely setis, (Mr. Wilson,] the Senator from New HampBetween freedom and slavery there is now a strange and unnatural, but an impossible antag. shire, (Mr. CLARK) the Senator from Illinois, great guif fixed; and while the one is ascending | onism, for no such antagonism can exist between (Mr. TRUMBULL,) the Senator from Kentucky, in prosperity and triumph over the arch that those who love our country and those who love (Mr. Davis,) and the Senator from Wisconsin, spans the chasm that divides it from the other, its Constitution. The man who loves our coun (Mr. DoolittlE.] The immediate question bethere will be written in dissolving views," the try must love its Constitution; the man who loves fore the Senate is upon the amendment proposed rebellion was the suicide of slavery!"

our Constitution must love the country. The two by the Senator from Massachusetts to the amendBut freedom shalllive, the brighter by contrast, principles are inseparable. Where the one exists ment of the Senator from Vermont, his amendand flourish here as perpetual as the ages! Our in the heart the other is near to it, and bound to ment being to the bill proposed by the Senator country is yet but in the infancy of its being, not it by a tie too strong for man to sever. They are from Illinois. I propose to compare together the yet three centuries old. And our settlements are joined together by the Hand that made us, and bill of the Senator from Illinois and the substitute but specks dotted round upon the edge of the let us strive as we will, we cannot put them asun of the Senator from Vermont, with the amend. map of the continent. The great heart of Amer der. Away, then, with the idea which seems to ment of the Senator from Massachusetts, as proica, with treasures as precious as the life-strings, have been entertained here that we have one class | posed to the substitute of the Senator from Veris yet unexplored, and almost unknown.

of Senators who are standing by the Constitution mont; and I assert in the outset that I make this This bill, enacted into a law, shall give civiliza and another class who are devoted to the country: | comparison with the design and desire of voting tion and life throughout the silent gorges and gen The men who are standing by the one are devoted || for that measure which shall seem to be most efile sleeping valleys, faraway into the deep recesses to the other, supporting and defending the other; cacious for putting down and crushing out this of the continent. Where it leads the way, there we cannot really sustain either alone. The Con- | rebellion. That is my honest purpose in comshall go in triumph the American standard, the old stitution surely would be worthless without the paring these two bills, with the amendment of the Nay of the Union. And when once thus planted, country; the country would have no protection, | Senator from Massachusetts annexed to them; it shall never again be trailed in the dust. The no shield, no salvation without the Constitution. || and when my judgment is satisfied which bill will proudest bird of the mountain is upon the Amer I say then, sir, that this antagonism is not only best effect that object, it is that bill to which I wish ican ensign, and not one feather shall fall from her strange and unnatural, it is an impossible antag. to give my voice and my vote, because at this plumage here. She is American in design, and onism.

time that is the object paramount to all others in an emblem of wildness and freedom. I say again My honorable friend from Ohio (Mr. WADE] she has not perched herself upon American stand is a patriot; he loves his country; no man who 'Those who have attacked the bill of the honards to die here. Our great western valleys were knows him doubts it; he loves it with all his heart, orable Senator from Illinois have found a great never scooped out for her burial place. Nor were and he is ready to put his life in peril for it. My deal in it which in my judgment never belonged to the everlasting, untrodden mountains piled for her honorable friend from Vermont (Mr. COLLAMER] it. It is natural perhaps for those who are opmonument. Niagara shall not pour her endless loves the Constitution of the country with all his | posed to a measure, to make it as odious as poswaters for her requiem; nor shall our ten thou heart, and is ready to put his life in peril to sup- ||sible, and the opponents of this bill have represand rivers weep to the ocean in eternal tears. port and defend it. But is not the honorable Sena sented it as one unworthy of the Senate, and which No, sir; no. Unnumbered voices shall come up ior from Ohio just as ready to put his life in perilought not to be passed. I think many have for from river, plain, and mountain, echoing the songs for the Constitution as the honorable Senator from this reason misunderstood this bill, and have imof our triumphant deliverance, while lights from a Vermont, and is not the Senator from Vermont | puted to it features and characteristics which thousand hill-tops will betoken the rising of the just as ready to put his life in peril for the country never belonged to it. The Senator from Illinois sun of freedom, that shall grow brighter and as the Senator from Ohio! Surely there is no an himself has replied to those charges with sufficient brighter until a perfect day.

tagonism between these Senators on this subject, point and clearness to leave me nothing to say on The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The further nor between those who represent these principles. ihat topic. While those who have attacked this consideration of this bill is set aside by the spe There is none, there can be none. When there bill have thus endeavored to make it very obnoxcial order of the day-the confiscation bill. fore the honorable Senator from Ohio remarked, I ious, while those who have defended it have enCONFISCATION OF PROPERTY.

as he did the other day, that he was a little tired deavored to make it very harmless, those who

and a little restive under some intimations that he have proposed amendments to it have endeavored The Senate resumed the consideration of the or those who were voting with him might not be in to show that the amendments were not subject bill (S. No. 151) to confiscate the property and favor of supporting the Constitution, and repelled to the objections made to the original bill, and were free che slaves of rebels.

with some indignation, not improperly, any such still of sufficient force to accomplish all that the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The Senator idea, the Senator from Vermont might, had he original bill would accomplish. ' Then the oppofrom Vermont moves an amendment lo the bill taken occasion to make the remark, with equal nents of those amendmenis, the advocates of ihe by striking out all after the enacting clause and propriely and justice have repelled any idea ihat | original bill, have in turn undertaken to show inserting a new and entire bill. To that amend he was not as strongly attached to the country and that the proposed amendments were nugatory and ment thc Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Wil as hostile to its enemies as the Senator from Ohio. | worthless, when they were arguing to the friends son) moves an amendment striking out the sixth But, sir, I do not propose to pursue this thought; l of the original bill, and when arguing against the section of the proposed substitute, and inserting I merely allude to it to show on what strange amendments, to the friends of the amendments, new matter in its stead; and upon that question || grounds we have drifted in carrying on this dis- || they have insisted that the amendments were more the Senator from Wisconsin (Mr. Howe) is en cussion, for here we really seem to be divided by obnoxious, had more harsh and repulsive features titled to the floor.

this strange line-a line which cannot be drawn. than even the original bill. Mr.HOWE addressed the Senate. (His speech We can as readily separate a man's personal iden The amendment of the Senator from Vermont will be published in the Appendix.).

tity as to separate those who love the Constitu- has been attacked and defended upon very much Mr. FOSTER. Mr. Presideni, it is with great lion from those who love the country.

the same principles as the original bill of the Senreluctance that I propose making any remarks There are various measures here before us. ator from Illinois, on which I have commented.

my mind.

Comparing these two measures together is my General Government, vesting the title in the Uni- | it is surely weaker than the bill of the Senator task; and in the first place, the claim made for ted States. This takes a particular class of per from Vermont, because in that there is no restricthe bill of the Senator from Illinois, as stated sons, and confiscates their property, vesting the tion; he may take the property of every man in the other day by the Senator from Maine, (Mr. title in the United States; but still no provision is rebellion, and it is to be presumed, I think, that MORRILL,] is that this bill is particularly fitted for made for making this available, except in the he would take the property of those who are most the suppression of this rebellion at this time, and mode which I have suggested, which is by the obnoxious, and who most richly deserve the punthat the bill of the Senator from Vermont is noth President appointing officers, civil or military, to ishment provided by the law. ing but a bill to punish those connected with it make seizures when in his opinion it shall be ad I now come to the question as it affects the after the rebellion has ceased, and is of no efficacy || visable, in order that the rebellion may be crushed slaves. This is an important matter, and the Senat the present time. Now low is it? What does out and speedily ended. Then the whole amount ator from Massachusetts (Mr. Wilson) the other the bill of the Senator from Illinois propose to do of this bill, so far as taking the property of rebels day very explicitly avowed that this was more imin the way of confiscating property in the pos in situations where legal process cannot be served, || portant to him than any other feature of the bills. session of those who are now in rebellion against is to have the President seize such property and Comparing the two on that point, is the bill of the the Government? It makes it the duty of the sell and dispose of such portions of it as he may Senator from Illinois or the substitute of the SenPresident of the United States, as often as in his deem best. I was wrongin saying that this should ator from Vermont the more effective? I have opinion the military necessities of the Army or be where judicial process cannot be served, be already suggested what the bill of the Senator the safety, interest, and welfare of the United States cause, of course, he cannot seize it unless he has from Illinois proposes on that subject. What does in regard to the sappression of the rebellion shall possession, at least by the military power. He the bill of the Senator from Vermont propose? In require, to order the seizure, by such officers, mil must have military possession of the country; he | the first place, all those slaves-he does not call itary or civil, as he may designate, of the property must then direct his officers to seize such property them by that name, perhaps, but we understand of certain classes of persons, described in the as belongs to those described in the firsi scction very well what is meapt-all those slaves who first section of the bill, confiscated by the act, who of the bill, as he shall judge best to take, and it belong to persons who shall be convicted under are out of reach of process, and make sale or other shall be sold or otherwise disposed of as he shall the act are made forever free. Provision is made disposition of the property or so much of it as he determine. As to slaves, it provides that the in another section for the prosecution and convicshall deem advisable.

slaves of those persons who shall, after the pas- tion of those who shall be guilty of treason. When That is what the confiscation bill proper of the sage of the act, take up arms against the United it comes to making provision in regard to setting Senator from Illinois-if I may so call it-pro- || States, or in any manner give aid and comfort slaves free, it sets free the slaves of every man poses to do; and that, so far as anything to be to the rebellion, shall be freed and discharged convicted under the bill in the first place, so that effected in the rebellious States, during this rebel- from any servitude which they may owe to such | if there is a prosecution against any man under lion, is concerned, except in the single matter of persons. That is the provision of the confiscation || this bill for the crime of treason, and he is conslaves, about which I shall say a word by and by, || bill proper, and that is all. It depends, I say, abso- | victed, every slave belonging to him is then made is all it proposes to do. I think the Senator from lutely upon the will of the President, the opinion | free forever. What more does it provide. As Maine, in bis very effective specch the other day, of the President. It leaves the whole maiter to to all other slaves in any State, after six months misapprehended ihe effect of the bill in saying that; and without that, although you may say that have expired beyond the period when the Presithat nothing could be done under it except what i title is changed and vested in the United States, dent has declared the State to be in insurrection, the President should by seizure direct to be done, the Gorernment gets no avails until the President which I may remark applies to the whole counand that all power under the bill would cease thinks it best to take the property. The opinion | try that is in rebellion now, for more than six when the rebellion ceased. Such is not the mean of the President controls.

months have expired, the President, if he shall ing of the bill. The honorable Senator from Illi. Now, sir, what is the amendment of the hon- ll judge it necessary to the successful suppression nois will not accept that construction of the bill. orable Senator from Vermont? What does that of the insurrection, may, by proclamation, fix and It contemplates action on property in the loyal propose to do on this subject of property? It appoint a day when all persons holden to service States. But I agree that so far, perhaps, as the im authorizes the President of the United States when or labor in such State, by law or custom, to any mediate effect upon the rebellion is concerned, it is ever he shall deem it necessary to the speedy and one who after the day fixed by the proclamation true, as was stated to be generally true by the Sen successtultermination of the rebellion, to sequester shall levy war or participate in the insurrection, ator from Maine, that this is all that the bill of and seize all the property of all insurgents, by shall be forever free. the Senator from Illinois proposes in respect to such commissioners as he shall appoint, who shall That is the provision in regard to slaves that property other than slaves. It makes it, said the hold, occupy, rent, and control the same for the may not belong to rebels who may be convicted Senator from Maine, the duty of the President to United States, selling all such personal property

under the act, and I ask if it is not broad enough act; and he laid great stress on that; but who is to as is perishable or expensive in keeping, paying and sweeping enough. It takes all the slaves of be the judge of his duty, and how is that question over the avails into the Treasury of the United all the rebels who may not be convicted of treason of duty to be ascertained and determined? The bill States. This is to continue until judicial proceed- | under the act, who are previously provided for; answers that question by saying that it shall be ings are restored, and in all cases is to continue and so broad and sweeping was it that the Senathe duty of the Presideni to do thus and so when, || until the owner can be proceeded against by legal tor from Maine, in his speech the other day, alin his opinion, it shall be necessary to do thus and prosecution.

leged that the bill of the Senator from Vermont 80, so that the bill of the honorable Senator from That is the amendment of the Senator from Ver- || proposed to free the slaves of everybody, no matIllinois, so far as the seizure and disposition of mont on this subject of seizing and disposing of ier whether owned by loyal or disloyal masters. property are concerned, depends entirely upon rebels' property. Now, which is the more strin He averred that most emphatically. This was the opinion of the President.

gent and effective of these two measures? I say when he was on that side of the argument to show Not one legal hand is to be laid upon the prop ihat of the Senator from Vermont most decidedly. that the amendment was obnoxious to all the oberty of rebels except where the President' is of In the first place, it takes all the property of all || jections urged against the original bill of the Senopinion that it may be best to lay a legal hand the rebels, subject, I grant you, in regard to its ator from Ilinois; but when he was on the other upon it. It as much depends on opinion as legis- | enforcement, to the decision of the President of | side of the argument, he showed that this bill of lative enactment can make it depend on opinion. the United States, the expression being that the the Senator from Vermont was perfectly toothless, He is to give the order to such officers, military | President is authorized to seize it whenever he could seize nothing, and was intended to seize or civil, as he may designate, and his opinion is shall deem it necessary to the speedy and success nothing, during the rebellion. On this point, howthe law; and he is to take not the property of all ful termination of the rebellion. When he deems ever, he so impressed the honorable Senator from the rebels as the bill originally proposed, and as that exigency to have arisen, he may then take Virginia (Mr. Carlile) that he had occasion to I think it should be to be consistent with itself, all the property of all the rebels and dispose of it rise up and say that it was the speech of the honbut he is to take the property of certain classes as I have stated; sell the personal property that is orable Senator from Vermont and not the bill that of persons, guilty, I grant you, but no more guilty perishable, or expensive to keep, and hold, oc he meant to eulogize, apparently being alarmed at than others; and, indeed, I think it might be cupy, or rent the real estate until judicial proceed a feature in the bill which he had not discovered, shown that many of them may not be as guilty | ings are restored to the district, and under all cir and which, if the honorable Senator from Maine, as some who were alluded to by the Senator from cumstances, until the owner of the property can who is always-acute and generally accurate, had Wisconsin, who has just closed his speech, who be proceeded against by a legal prosecution. studied a little more closely, he would have seen escape punishmentaliogether. I think he alluded I say that is a more effective measure; it accom was not in the bill at all. to classes of persons whose property would not plishes more. It is dependent upon the same

The bill of the honorable Senator from Verbe touched by the provisions of the first section hand, I agree, for the exercise of the power con mont does not propose to touch the slave of a of the bill as it now stands, who are as guilty and ferred, but that is an infirmity or an advantage, || loyal man in any way. It proposes to allow the as deserving of punishment as those upon whom whichever it may be called, that attaches to both President by proclamation io fix a time when all its hand will fall. But in regard to the persons bills in common. In both the seizure and dispo the slaves belonging to those who shall be in rewho are thus designated, officers and others, the sition depend upon the will of the President; but bellion after a given day shall be set free, and I ask President, afier all, is to exercise his opinion. when the President wills to exercise the power if that is not as broad and as comprehensive even When he has taken the rebel's property, he is granted in the proposition of the Senator from as the terms of the bill of the honorable Senator not bound to sell it. He is bound, after seizing it, || Vermont, he is not restricted as regards the per from Illinois? It goes as far, with this difference to sell or dispose of it in such manner as he may sons whose property he may take, nor is he re only, that this is left to the discretion of the Presjudge best, or he may dispose of such parts of it stricted as to the property he may take; the only | sident, as the other parts of the bill are. It might as he thinks proper. That is certainly not a bill point is that the owner shall be a rebel; and therein have been or might not have been an oversight on as severe as some of those who have argued it goes beyond the present position of the bill of the part of the honorable Senator from Illinois to against it have claimed it to be.

the Senator from Illinois, that bill having been make the will of the President necessary in order I agree that the terms of the first section of the amended at the instance of the Senator from Ohio, to take any other property than slaves, and to exbill, especially as it originally stood, were much by striking out "all persons," and inserting cer clude the will of ihe President in taking slaves; more broad and comprehensive, for that took tain classes of persons, which, as the Senator from but there is no reason for it. If we trust the dis. within its sweep all property, real and personal, Illinois suggested at the time, and has since sug.

cretion of the Executive in the one case, we ought belonging to all the rebels and confiscated it to the gested, in his opinion, weakens the bill. In that to trust it in the other. Neither is justified but

on the ground of military necessity; it is not pre who owned it descended to his children, the pur. Mr. CLARK. I move that the Senate do now tended to be justified in the bill of the honorable chaser under the President would have no title. I || adjourn. Senator from Illinois, unless the President shall do not see how we by act of Congress could help Mr. WILSON, of Massachusetts. If the Sen. be of opinion that it will tend to suppress the re- it

. The Senator from New Hampshire not now ator will withdraw that motion, I wish to give bellion. That is the ground on which he touches in his seat, (Mr. Hale,) I know has a remedy notice that I shall move an amendment to the bill, the personal and real property of rebels, properly for that by abolishing the Supreme Court, a fa which I desire to have printed. so called.

vorite measure of his,

but I apprehend that would Mr. CLARK. Very well. Whien he comes to slaves, if the discretion of hardly be efficacious for this purpose.

Mr. WILSON, of Massachusetts. I submit the President does not apply to them, why does In view of these facts I do not believe the Pres my amendment, and move that it be printed. it not apply? Do we undertake to judge of a mil ident would undertake to sell the real estate of a The motion was agreed to. itary necessity in regard to slaves, and not judge rebel which he might under the circumstances Mr. CHANDLER. I ask the Senator from of á military necessity in regard to other prop seize, not perhaps for the reason that he would New Hampshire to allow me to move an execuerty? To be consistent, we should settle the ques. have any doubt upon this subject-for I know tive session. I desire an executive session merely tion of military necessity as well for the one as nothing about that--but because he would know to make a motion to reconsider a vote. for the other. I agree with the honorable Sena that it would affect the price of the property when Mr. CLARK. I shall make no objection. tor from Wisconsin (Mr. DoolitTLE) on thai sub sold. It would be sold under a cloud. Very few On motion of Mr. CHANDLER, the Senate ject, that to judge of a military necessity is not a men would want to buy it, and buy as they would || proceeded to the consideration of executive busilegislative prerogative, it is an executive preroga know an interminable law-suit. They would not, ness; and after some time spent therein, the doors ative; but I think if we are not to decide the mil therefore, give the value of the property, nor any. were reopened, and the Senate adjourned. itary necessity as applied to lands, houses, and thing near it. Hence, the President, as a discreet other property, but io say in regard to them that and prudent manager of this property, would feel the President shall exercise his judgment and be himself bound, as I believe, under the bill of the

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. the judge of the necessity, there is the same rea Senator from Illinois, to hold it from year to year,

Monday, May 5, 1862. son why he should be the judge in regard to the and collect the avails of it for the benefit of the

The House met at twelve o'clock, m. Prayer necessity of taking slaves.

Treasury without a sale, because in that way he || by the Chaplain, Rev. Thomas H. STOCKTON. Then, Mr. President, as between the bill of the could make it most available to the Government.

The Journal of Friday last was read and apSenator from Illinois and the substitute of the Therefore, I say, practically there is no differ

proved. Senator from Vermont on this subject of slaves, ence in this respect between the operation of these

CALL OF STATES. there is no difference except that by the substi two bills; and inasmuch as the passing of one as The SPEAKER stated the regular order of busitute of the Senator from Vermont ihe President serts a power in us which at all events is question

ness to be the call of the States and Territories for is required to issue his proclamation fixing the able, and by very many most experienced and

bills on leave, beginning with the Territory of day when all those who own slaves, if they shall judicious men in ihis Chamber is held not to be

Dakotah. continue in rebellion after the day so fixed, shall long to us, although it may be said that other men lose their slaves and have them set free. These

BREECH-LOADING CANNON. of equal ability and equal learning contend that it are the two points on which these two bills are does belong to us, it is better, it seems to me, to Mr. WATT, by unanimous consent, introimportant-che taking of real and personal prop avoid questions so situated, unless there are very || duced a bill to provide for testing breech-loading erty generally, and the taking of slaves, not as strong reasons for asserting and exercising the cannon; which was read a first and second time, property, but for purposes of humanity and jus power. There is no such motive at the present and referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. tice, and, if you please, as a punishment to their time, so far, at least, as providing means for crush

KANSAS DEPREDATIONS. rebel owners. I repeat what I said earlier in my ing out the rebellion is concerned, for the property remarks, that the bill of the Senator from Ver can be made just as available without à sale as

Mr. ALDRICH, by unanimous consent, intromont, it seems to me, is more effective, will ac with, and I think more available.

duced a joint resolution in reference to the claims complish more, is better adapted to the end than The amendment to the amendment of the Sen

for losses and depredations sustained by the peothe other bill, especially as it is now amended. ator from Vermont, proposed by the Senator from | ple of Kansas; which was read a first and second

There is, liowever, one point of difference be Massachusetts, which is the direct question pend- || time, and referred to the Committee of Claims. tween these bills which is a difference of principle, ing, has been commented upon both by the Sen

ARMY APPROPRIATION BILL. though I do not believe this difference affects the ator from Vermont and the Senator from Wiscon

Mr. STEVENS. I ask leave to have the Army practical result of cither so far as the Treasury of sin in such manner as satisfies my mind entirely, || appropriation bill made a special order for Wedthe United States is concerned. The billof the Sen without detaining the Senate on that proposition. ntor from Illinois contemplates such a state of On the whole, then, comparing together the

nesday next.

It was so ordered. things as a sale of the real property of a rebel confiscation bill proper, the bill of the Senator seized by the President under the bill and disposed from Illinois, Senute bill No. 151, with the amend

PUNISUMENT FOR TREASON. of, and of course goes upon the ground that such ment proposed by the Senator from Vermont, Mr. THOMAS, of Massachusetts, by unanisale would pass an absolute title to the purchaser. without the adoption of the amendment to that mous consent, introduced a bill for the punishThat necessarily involves the question whether we amendment proposed by the Senator from Massa ment of treason, and for the more effectual suphave the right to change the title of real estate chusetts, it seems to me that the substituie will pression of rebellion; which was read a first and belonging to a traitor or rebel so as to divest his be more valuable to attain the end which we all second time, referred to the Committee on the heirs of that property after his death. The bill of have in view than the original bill. It strikes | Judiciary, and ordered to be printed. the Senator from Ninois goes upon the ground more fully and more fairly upon those engaged in

RUFUS L. HARVEY. that we may do that. The bill of the Senator from the rebellion. It takes everything which the oriVermont does not, at least by assertion, go upon ginal bill takes, and more. It disposes of it in Mr. VALLANDIGHAM. I desire to enter a the ground that we can do it. The bill of ihe Sen such a manner as to make it fully as available. motion to reconsider the vote by which the bill ator from Ilinois, however, does not by any It leaves nothing undone which the original bill ll granting a pension to Rufus L. Harvey was remeans impose upon the President the obligation proposes to do, and it does that which it proposes | ferred to a Committee of the Whole House on the to sell this property, and therefore, as I said, this io do more effectually, more positively, more Private Calendar. question of principle does not affect the result of surely, than the original bill.

The motion was entered. the measure, in a pecuniary point of view, to the Under these circumstances, taking, as I avowed

ENROLLED BILL. Treasury; it simply touches ihe abstract question in the outset, that rule as my guide in regard to

Mr. GRANGER, from the Committee on Enof our right to affect the property of a rebel be these bills, to support that which was most effectyond his life. I must confess, however anxious

rolled bills, reported as truly enrolled an act (S. ive, I prefer to vote for the amendment rather Í um to punish rebels, that I do not believe under than the original bill, not because it is temporizing, the Speaker signed the same.

No. 177) for the relief of Sylvester Crooks; when the Constitution of the country we can affect the not because it postpones all action until after this title to the real estate of a man, however steeped rebellion is ended, not because it is a bill imposing order to be the call of States for resolutions.

The SPEAKER stated the next business in in rebellion, longer than his life.. Wisely or un penalties on traitors when the rebellion is over,

Mr. CAMPBELL. I move that the rules be wisely as it may be, that power is I believe denied but because it goes into the field with as sharp, as

suspended, and that the House resolve itself into to us by the Constitution.

long, and as penetrating a sword, and strikes at On this point the bills do not differ as I say, the vitals of this rebellion as deadly a blow as any

the Committee of the Whole on the state of the

Union on the special order. practically, inasmuch as under the bill of the Sen. bill before the Senate, except the bill of the honator from Illinois the President may hold this orable Senator from Kentucky, (Mr. Davis,} || yield to me for a moment.

Mr. STEVENS. I hope my colleague will property and occupy it from year to year, renting which is, I agree, more sweeping than any one, Mr. CAMPBELL. Yes. it without selling it, just as he is required to do much more. The difference, however, between in the bill of the Senator from Vermont. There his bill and this is that he confiscates all property,

ACCOUNTS OF STATES. is no difference in the requirement; it is all left to real and personal, and slaves of rebels, not to the Mr. STEVENS. I move to discharge the Comhis judgment; and it being left to his judgment, I Treasury of the United States, but for the benefit | mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union from have no doubt how he would decide it, because it of those who may suffer from the rebellion, or the further consideration of a bill to amend an act is perfectly apparent that it is a question which who may have borne arms to quell it, a proposi- || entitled " An act to provide increased revenue from would almost inevitably get before the judicial tion not unworthy of consideration by any means; || imports, to pay interest on the public debt, and tribunals. A question would be made which would but I will not discuss it. His bill does not pro- || for other purposes," approved August 5, 1861, and get to the Supreme Court of the United States, pose to free the slaves.

that the same be put upon its passage. involving the title to the property after the decease Aside from that bill, which I agree is more The motion was agreed to. of the traitor or rebel; and if the Supreme Court sweeping than either of ihese, as between the two The bill was read. It extends to the 30th of of the United States should hold that notwith before the Senate, I think the bill of the Senator | July next the time for filing with the proper offistanding this act of Congress, and this sale by the from Vermont is, as I have said, the most effect cer the accounts of States against the General President, the property after the death of the man ive, and I shall thercfore give it my vote. Government for expenses incurred in enrolling,

equipping, and transporting troops, and allows with a view of testing the sense of the House on bill to pass it. If we are to pass it, the road should the amount of such accounts to be set off against the motion to postpone.

have as few branches as will accommodate the the taxes to be paid by such States, with an The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman with general trade of the central route. At present, ! abatement of fifteen per cent. draw his motion that the committee rise?

Think we are not prepared to go any further, and The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read Mr. F.A.CONKLING. I do not. On the con I hope the gentleman, who I know is a friend of a third time; and being engrossed, it was accord trary, I move that the committee rise and report this bill, will not insist upon his amendment. ingly read the third time, and passed. the bill to the House.

Mr. ALDRICH. I propose to say a single Mr. STEVENS moved to reconsider the vote The CHAIRMAN. That motion is not in order word in reply to my friend from Pennsylvania. by which the bill was passed; and also moved to while there is an amendment pending.

The CHAIRMAN. No debate is in order. lay the motion to reconsider on the table.

Mr. F. A. CONKLING. Then I move that Mr. ALDRICH. I desire to say but a single The latter motion was agreed to. the committee rise.

word with the consent of the committee. I say to
Tellers were ordered; and Messrs. Colfax, and the gentleman from Pennsylvania, that there is no
Phelps of California, were appointed.

provision made in the bill by which a connection Mr. DAWES. I rise to a question of privi The committee divided; and the tellers reported can be made from my own section of the country lege. I wish to call up the election case of the Layes 34, noes 61.

to the main trunk of the road. State of California,

So the committee refused to rise.

Mr. STEVENS. I said a connection with an The SPEAKER. It is not a question of privi Mr. CAMPBELL. In order to make the sev Iowa railroad. lege during the pendency of the motion to suspend enth section conform to the amendments already Mr. ALDRICH. I understood the gentleman the rules.

agreed to, I offer the following amendment: to say Nebraska Territory. Mr. DAWES. I ask the gentleman from Penn Strike out the words “ western boundary of Kansas to the Mr. STEVENS. I said the Iowa road was to sylvania to give way to me for this purpose. castern," and insert in lieu thereof the words “ one hun

connect with the main line somewhere in NeMr. CAMPBELL. I have been very liberal dred and second meridian of longitude aforesaid to the

fibraska Territory: Western;" so that it will read: in giving way to gentlemen on all sides of the

And shall complete said railroad and telegraph from the Mr. ALDRIČH. There is no provision in the House. I hope the House will now dispose of one hundred and second meridian of longitude aforesaid to bill for any connection with the section of counthis Pacific railroad bill. the western boundary of Nevada Territory before the 1st

try from which I come. I hope the amendment Mr. DAWES. There cannot be anything quite day of July, 1874.

will be agrecd to. so interesting to members, I think, as their right

The amendment was agreed to.

The amendment was disagreed to. to seats.

Mr. ARNOLD. I move to amend the seventh

Mr. CAMPBELL. In order to perfect section Mr. CAMPBELL. Members are all satisfied section by adding as the end of it as follows:

nine, and make it conform with the amendments with their seats. I insist on my motion to sus Provided, That in eixing the point of connection of the which the committee have already adopted, I move pend the rules.

main track with the eastern connections it shall be fixed
at the inost practicable point for the construction of the

to amend in line five, by striking out after the PACIFIC RAILROAD.

lowa and Missouri branches, as hereinafter provided. word “10," the words " the western boundary Mr. F. A, CONKLING. I call for the yeas I will state that the amendment I have now pro

of Kansas or to," so as to make it read, “ from and ways on the motion to suspend the rules. posed has been submitted to the chairman of the

the Missouri river at Kansas City to the one hunThe yeas and nays were ordered.

committee on the Pacific railroad, and to the gentle- dred and second meridian of longitude from GreenThe question was takin, and it was decided in man from Missouri, (Mr. Blair,) and that it has

wich." the atlirmative-yeas 56, nays 49; as follows: their concurrence. So far as I ain aware there is

The amendment was agreed to. FEA5-Messrs. Aldrich, Arnold, Asbley, Beaman, Bid no objection to it.

Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend the same dle, Bingham, Blake, Campbell, Chamberlin, Clark, The amendment was agreed to.

section in line seven, by inserting after the word Cutler, Davis, Dulap, Edgerton, English, Fenton, Fessen

Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend the eighth

“Greenwich” the words " as herein provided." den, Franohol, Granger, Gurley, Hall, 11.rding, Norton, lluichins, Julian, Francis IV. Kellogg, Williani Krillogg, section, in the second line, by striking out after

The amendment was agreed to. Liliman, Moorhead, Auson P. Morril, Justin S. Morrill, the word “

commence, in the second line, the

Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend the same Noril, Norton, Piutton, Timothy G. Pielpy, Porter, Price,

words “ on the western boundary of Kansas or." section in line ten, by striking out the words Piebardak, Ridle, Edward II. Rollins, Sveut, Sinks, Shutabargir, Shiel, Joim fi. Suele, SLOVENI, Trimble,

The amendment was adopted.

upon the western boundary of Kansas or. Vallandigiai!, Van Valkenburgli, Verrer, Villac , Ward, Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend in line

Mr. BINGHAM. I desire to inquire of the Wheter, lillson, Window, and Worcester--56. NAYS-Messtå. Allen, Ancona, Joseph Baily, Baker,

ninc-before the word "boundary” strike out the gentleman from California if this retains the road word “eastern” and insert the word “ western,

within the limits of the boundaries of the State Jacob B. Blair, Buffinton, Calvert, Clements, Coliax, Fred. erick A, Conklmg, Roscoe Coukling, Cox, Cravens, Dawes, so that it will read,“ to the western boundary of

of Kansas? Delano, Duell, Dum, Eliot, Gooch, Grider, Hanchett, Har the Territory of Nevada.”

Mr. SARGENT. It makes it harmonious ricon, Holinau, Johnson, Knapp, Loonis, Lovejoy, Mc

The amendment was agreed to.

throughout. Plierson, Mallory, Maynard, Menzies, Morris, Nixon, No

The amendment was agreed to. ble, Pike, Alexander H. Rice, John II. Rice, Robinson, Sheffield, William G. Steele, Benjamin F. Thomas, Train, by striking out after the word "the" the words Mr. SARGENT. I propose to strike out in Voorhers, Wad-worth, Charles W. Walton, Washburne, Wickliffe, and Woodruff-49.

“Nevada railroad line across the Territory of lines fifteen and sixteen of the ninth section the

Nevada," and to insert in place thereof the words, words, "western boundary of Kansas," and inSo the rules were suspended.

"line of the Central Pacific Railroad Company sert in place thereof the words," meridian of lonDuring the vote, of California."

gitude aforesaid." Mr. DAWES stated that Mr. Walton, of Ver The amendment was agreed to.

The amendment was agreed to. mont, was detained from the House by illness.

The section, as amended, would then read as

Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend the same Mr. WILSON stated that Mr. Potter had follows:

section further, by striking out in the nineteenth been called from the city on important public busi

Sec. 8. And be it further enacted, That the line of said

line the words, the western limits of the State railroad and telegraph shall commence at the one hundred The vole was announced as above recorded. and second parallel of longitude west from Greenwich, at The amendment was agreed to. The House accordingly resolved itself into the the termination of the Lenvenworth, Pawnec, and Western railroad and telegraplı line, as berein provided, to meet

Mr. SARGENT. I move to amend, in the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union,

and connect tlierewith as herein provided; thence running twenty-sixth line, by striking out the words "Sec(Mr. Crisfield in the chair,) and resumed, as a westerly upon the most direct, central, and practicable retary of War,” and inserting the word “ Presispecial order, the consideration of the bill (H. R. route, through the Territories of the United States, to the

dent." No.364) to aid in constructing a railroad and tele western boundary of the Territory of Nevada, there to meet and connect with the line of the Central Pacific railroad of

The amendment was agreed to. graph line from the Missouri river to the Pacific

California. ocean, and to secure to the Government the use

Mr. SARGENT. I move to strike out of the

Mr. ALDRICH. I move to amend the ninth of the same for postal, military, and other pur- section by inserting in the forty-ninth line, after first line, to and including the word “ Nevada,"

ninth section, after the word "act," in the thirty. poses. Mr. F. A. CONKLING. Mr. Chairman, with the word “ California,” as follows:

in the thirty-ninth line, as follows:

And any companies organized or to be organized under a view to moving that the further consideration of

And the Nevada Railroad Company, a corporation created the laws of the State of Minnesota, or Territories of Dako

by the enactment of the 'Territorial Legislature of Nevada, this bill be postponed till the second Monday in ta or Nebraska, are hereby authorized to construct a rail

are bereby authorized to construct a railroad apd telegraph December next, I move that the committee do road and telegraph line upon the same terms and conditions

line, in coniormity with their cliarter, across said Terrinow rise.

in all respects as are comtained in this act for the construcMr. LOVEJOY. I move to amend that motion tion of said railroad and telegrapla line first mentio:ed, from

tory, upon the saine terms and conditions, in all respects,

as are provided in this act for the construction of the railSt. Paul, Minnesota, westerly io tlic “ Union Pacific rail.

road and telegraph line first mentioned,

and to meet and by adding to it the words, "and report the bill road," cast of the one hundred and sixth meridiau of longi

connect witb the saine on the eastern boundary of Nevada. to the House."

lude west froin Greenwichi. The CHAIRMAN. The motion is not amend. Mr. STEVENS. That is inaugurating another

The object of this amendment is to provide that able. very long railroad. They have already a con

there shall be in all the Territories but one railMr. ROSCOE CONKLING. I rise for inform nection with an lowa road provided for in the bill,

road company: ation. I propound to the Chair this question: if to meet the main line somewhere in Nebraska

The amendment was agreed to. the committee rises without reporting the bill, will Territory. Now, if there are friends enough of

Mr. SARGENT. I move, in line forty-seven, a motion be then in order in ihe House to post- || this bill who desire sincerely to accomplish its

to strike out the word “last" and insert * first." pone it? passage, they must not clog it or load it with any

The last company named in the act was the NeThe CHAIRMAN. That will be question || further incumbrances. I should be very glad to vada Company, which we have stricken out. The for the House to decide. see roads made at the proper time from anywhere

word “first" should therefore be inserted. Mr. ROSCOE CONKLÍNG. Such a motion in the gentleman's district to anywhere he may

The amendment was agreed to. would leave the bill in committee, and the motion deșire them to connect, but I think an amend Mr. ARNOLD. I move to amend the section to postpone would not be in order.

ment at this time, such as that now offered by the further by striking out the word “or" where it Mr. F. A. CONKLING. Then I nove that gentleman from Minnesota, would so load the bill occurs in the twenty-fourth line. the committee rise and report the bill to the House, as to put it beyond the power of the friends of the The amendment was agreed to.

MFARGENT. 1 move to amend im dine ten;



Whar. CAMPBELL. I do not see the necessity

Mr. STEVENS. I move to amend the section dred miles of coast to defend; and with no iron- || bill seems to contemplate the construction of a by striking out all after the word “act” in the clad steamers and no forts there, we are at the Pacific railroad; but the section which I have fifty-first line to the end of the section, as follows: mercy of any foreign Power, and especially at the moved to strike out dissipates and and dispels the

Provilcil, That any companies bercafter to be organized mercy of England. This defenseless portion of illusion. by law by the states of Oregon and California for that pur the country demands the earnest consideration and What is it? It proposes to build, separately post, are hereby authorized to construct within the limits care of this Congress.

and independently, a line of road from the Mis. of their respective sinler i branch railroad and telegraph line oilbe said Central Pacific railroad and telegraphi, con

Mr. STEVENS. What is the distance from souri river to the western boundary of Kansas, necting therewith at a point at or near Sacramento City, Portland to Sacramento?

and through that country the road can be built and extending thence, by the way of Rogue river and Ump Mr. SHIEL. Seven hundred miles. There is for the bonus which the Government will bestow. gua and Willamette valleys, to or near Portland, in Oregon, another consideration which I will urge upon the It also proposes to build, separately and independby the most direct and practicable route, upon the same conditions and terins as are prescribed in this act for the attention of this House. By providing for the ently, a road through the State of California to construction of said Central Pacific railroad and telegraphi: construction of this road you will avoid the ne the eastern boundary of that State; and with the Provided, That not more than eighit thousand dollars per cessity of subsequent legislation. This road can donation of $16,000 a mile and the land grant, that mile shall be granted for the construction of said branch.

not be commenced at once, for there is contem line ofroad may be built. Mark you, these branches This proviso is one simply authorizing the con plated the organization of two companies by Cal are to be separate and distinct from the main line of struction of the Oregon branch of the road to Sac ifornia and Oregon, which may take two or three | the Pacific railroad, which may be known as the ramento City. This road I shall be glad to see years before they can be put into successful op- || mountain part of the work. On that part of the constructed at some subsequent time, but I do not eration. The gentlemen who are anxious for the road I expect that the Government will have to think we are prepared to build it now.

passage of a Pacific railroad bill at this session- | bear the heaviest burden. But here is my objecThe section, as amended, would then read as and I confess that there is nobody more anxious | tion: instead of making this a continuous line of follows:

for it than I am-would, with a more accurate and road from the Missouri river to the Pacific ocean, Sec.9. Anil be it further enacted, That the Leavenworth, extensive knowledge of that coast, I think, urge, the bill provides for three separate and distinct Pawnec, and Western Railroad Company, ot' Kansas, are in order not to be inviduous and unjust, that the branches. Under the bill, and the large bonus hereby authorized to construct a railroad and telegraph line,

western terminus of the road should not be either that it is proposed to give, the California and the in conformity with their charter from said State, from the Missouri river, at Kansas City, to the one hundred and sec

at Sacramento or San Francisco, but that the road Kansas branches of the road may be built, but oud meridian of longitude west froin Greenwicli, as herein should penetrate the Territory of Oregon. there is no provision to prevent the work stopprovided, upon the same terms and conditions in all re It is not necessary to add any further remarks. || ping there. After the Kansas company has taken spects as are provided in this act for the construction of the

I have called the attention of the committee to the ihe money of the Government and built the road railroad and elegraplı line first mentioned, and to meet and connect with the same at the meridian of' longitude asoretrue important points.

to the western boundary of that State, there is no said; and in case the general route or line of road from the (Here the hammer fell.]

power in Congress or anywhere else under this Missouri river to the Rocky Mountains should be so located Mr. Stevens's amendment was adopted. bill, to make them continue the work through the as to require a departure 'northwardly from the proposed Jine of said Kansas railroad before it reaches the meridian Mr. JULIAN. As some question has been

mountainous district. And the same thing is true ot' longitude aforesaid, the location of said Kansas road raised as to the authority of the Leavenworth,

of the California branch of the road. The branch shall be made so as to conform thereto; and said railroad Pawnee, and Western Railroad Company to con

roads at either end will take the $16,000 a mile througlı Kansas shall be so located between Kansas City and the one liundred and second meridian of longitude, that the struct this road through Kansas, I desire to have

and build those branches, but there will be no several railroids from St. Josephi and lowa, herein author the Clerk read the letter I hold in my hands from

power to compel the connection of those branches ized to comect with the same, can make the counection Mr. Conway, who is still prevented by indispo- and make a complete Pacific railroad. within the limits prescribed in this act, without deviating sition from personally representing his constit

(Here the hammer fell.] from the general direction of the whole line to the Pacific coast. Tlc route in Kiusas to the one hundred and second uents on this floor.

Mr. CAMPBELL obtained the floor. meridian of losigitude to be subject to the approval of the The Clerk read, as follows:

Mr. KELLOGG, of Illinois. Let me finish Secretary of War of the Unitei States. And said Kansas

what I have to say.

WASHINGTON, April 30, 1862. company many proceed to build said railroad to the one hundred and second meridian of longitude west from Green.

DEAR SIR: I understand a question has been raised by wicli, upon such general route adopted, through any terrisoine inembers of the House as to the sufficiency of the au

of any more discussion on this amendment, which tory ou wlich said yeneral location inay be made, under the

thority of the Leavenworth, Pawnee, and Western Railroad the House, I think, understands very well. The conditions named in this act. The Central Pacific Railroad Company to construct through Kansas the several lines of

gentleman from Illinois says that he has a pet Company of California, a corporation existing under the

road which the bill of the special committee on the Pacific laws otthe State of Calilornia, arc hereby authorized to conrailroad authorizes thein to build.

scheme for the construction of a road from the struct a railroad and telegraph line froin the Pacific coast,

Will you please say to the House for me that I am fainil

Missouri river to the ocean. at or near San Francisco, or the navigable waters of the

iar with the charter of that company and its ainendients, Mr. KELLOGG, of Illinois. The gentleman Sacramento river, to the eastern boundary of California,

and that they are ample to authorize the company to con is mistaken. upon the same terms and conditions, in all respects, as are

struct the lines proposed, and are carefully framed to procontained in this act for the construction of said railroad tect the interests of the stockholders and the people of the

Mr. CAMPBELL. The gentleman stated that

he had a bill to offer for the construction of a Pa. and telegraph line first mentioned, and to meet and connect with the first inentioned railroad and telegraph line on

The company has spent much time, labor, and money in cific railroad, which he would offer at the proper the eastern boundary of California. Each of said coinpa

procuring the right of way, making surveys and estimates, time. nies shall tile their acceptance of the conditions of this act

and is now fully prepared to enter on the construction of in the Department of the Interior within six months after the road. It is composed of and controlled by many of

Mr. KELLOGG, of Illinois. The gentleman the passage of this act.

the best citizens of the State; and my constituents greatly is utterly mistaken. I said no such thing.

desire that the construction of the lines through Kansas Mr. CAMPBELL. I yield to the gentleman's Mr. SHIEL. Any one, Mr. Chairman, look

shall be given to it, instead of being given to a corporation denial, but I was strongly under the impression ing at the geography of the Pacific coast, must dis

created by the Pacific railroad bill, and composed chiefly of

that he had made such a remark. cover that the terminus of Sacramento City or San I will add that thé Legislature of Kansas, at its last ses I wish, Mr. Chairman, that members would Francisco is not the proper terminus for the main sion, almost unanimously instructed me to support a bill give this subject the attention that its magnitude trunk of a railroad to the Pacific. We have an giving the right to construct the Pacific road through Kan

and importance deserve. The gentleman from extent of sea-coast of some seven hundred miles

sas to this company; and I feel that a compliance by the
House with the wishes of the Legislature in that respect is

Illinois rises in his place and says that this bill from Sacramento City to Portland, Oregon, en due to the people of my State, and is necessary to the pro provides for the construction of three roads. It tirely unprotected—not a single national defense. tection of their interests.

shows that the gentleman is laboring under a misIt is at the mercy of any foreign Government that I am, very respectfully, yours,


apprehension in regard to this measure. Perhaps may involve us in war. And I do contend that

he has not deemed it of sufficient importance to give the considerations which should at the present Hon. GEORGE W. JULIAN, House of Representatives.

it that consideration to which I think it is entitled. time urge upon this committee to pass this bill, Mr. KELLOGG, of Illinois. I move to strike He is directly, and it may be well for his conare of iwo-fold weight in favor of an extension of out the ninth section with all of the amendments stituents to understand it, the gentleman is directly the road to Portland, Oregon. made thereto,

and pointedly opposing the interests of his own But there is another consideration springing up Mr. Chairman, I ask the attention of the com great State by opposing this great measure. I within the last two or three years to which I de mittee to the object which I have in view in mak propose to state how he is opposing the interests sire to call the attention of the committee. The ing that amendment to this bill. I am in favor of of Illinois. This bill does not provide for two or new mines which have been discovered in British the passage at this session of Congress, if it can three roads, but only one road, with two eastern Columbia have attracted a large number of our be done, of a proper and just bill for the construc branches. If the gentleman will turn to the map citizens from California, Oregon, and Washing. || tion of a railroad from the Missouri river to the he will find that the great lines of railroad running ton Territory, and they are a different class of Pacific ocean. Whenever such a bill shall be pre- | along the lake shores to the city of Chicago, in people from those who were formerly residents || sented, and on its face in good faith provide for the his own State, require a nurthern branch, and it ihere. Occasions have already occurred when construction of such a road, I will vote for it in || is but right to give that great commerce a means there have been serious difficulties at 4th of July | almost any shape; but when a bill declares, clearly of transit to and from the Pacific; and if he will celebrations, and on other national holidays of and distinctly, that the purpose is not to provide turn his attention to this map still further, he will Americans, the chief factor of the Hudson Bay for the construction of an entire and complete find that the great lines centering at St. Louis Company has had to call out the military to aid Pacific railroad, but a road through California | require an eastern branch to give them transit to in quelling the disturbances. These difficulties and through Kansas, leaving the mountain por the Pacific. Those two branches will unite at a have already engendered a very bitter and intense tion a separate and independent line of road, and || point two hundred miles west of the Missouri feeling of dislike; and it is very probable, if ihese that bill is presented here, I cannot be expected | river, and from that point the bill provides for things continue, that it will not be many years be. to vote for it. That is not the object which the only one road to the Pacific. fore we will be drawn into a great war with Eng. || nation has in view. This bill provides, first, that Now, in regard to the other point that the genland that will overwhelm all mere considerations the mountain portion of the country shall be tleman made. These two eastern branches will of the amount of money this will cost in view of spanned with a railroad, commencing on the west have a gratuity of $16,000 a mile only when the the importance and even the necessity of the con ern side of Kansas, and ending on the eastern road is completed and in running order, with locostruction of this road.

side of California. A charter is granted and pro- | motives and all the other equipments. Those eastThe construction of the road will cost about five vision is made for the organization of a company; ern branches can be constructed and equipped for millions of dollars. You have some seven hun and to that, sir, I have no objection. So far the not less than $60,000 a mile. No responsible men


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