Q. Was he there? A. No, I did not see him. Yes, there was John Bacon there it was Thomas I did not see there. Q. Is John Bacon a Pentridge man? A. Yes. Q. Do you remember in the course of the morning Brandreth saying any thing more than you have told us, as to what was going on? A. I do not remember all that he said. Q. Do you remember any persons reciting any verses? Q. Do you recollect what the purport of them was? Mr. Cross. We are not to learn the purport of the verses. Mr. Solicitor General. He is giving us the words. He must turn out and not deny." Q. Do you remember any more? A. Yes,-" No bloody soldiers."I cannot recollect the next. Q. Do you remember any other line? A. Not just now, Q. Begin again, and then perhaps you will be able to repeat. A. "Every one his skill must try "He must turn out and not deny. I cannot recollect any more just now. Q. You say two Joseph Weightmans were there? Q. Did they remain there the whole of the time? A. He was to go to Nottingham to see how the Nottingham people went on I Q. Was that said? suppose. A. Yes, it was said, and he set off-money was gathered for that purpose. Q. From whom was the money collected? Q. The persons collected in the room? A. Yes, Q. What time of the day was that? A. It was before dinner, about eleven o'clock. Q. Which of the Weightmans was it? A. Joseph. Q. Which of the Josephs? A. Joseph at the bottom of the town; the elderly man. Q. For what purpose was he sent to Nottingham ? A. To see whether the people there would be ready to meet them at the proper time, and he was to return and let them know. Q. How far is Nottingham from Pentridge ? A. Fourteen miles. Q. Did he take any letter? A. Yes. Q. From whom? A. Brandreth wrote it. Q. Do you remember Mac Kesswick saying any thing? A. Yes. Q. What did he say? A. On going into the room, he looked round the room, and said he thought there were too many there for that business. Q. What answer was given? A. He asked Brandreth how he did, and Brandreth did not know him; so he told him he came with him a little along the road: there was no more said, but he went out after that. Q. Did Brandreth recollect him when he said he had come with him along the road? A. Yes. Q. You say Mac Kesswick remarked, there were too many in the room for that business; was anything said upon that? A. No, nothing. Q. In the course of this conversation, do you remember William Turner saying anything more than you have told us? A. Yes. Q. Tell us what he said? A. They were talking about drawing the badger, Q. What did they say about drawing the badger? A. They were talking about laying some straw in the yard, and setting fire to it. Q. What yard? 44 A. I did not hear; I was out of the room sometime. Q. Was anything explained about what they meant by drawing the badger? A. Yes, they said that he would run out, and then they would shoot him. Q. When was that to be done? A. In their own parish, Wingfield, on the next night; they said they had got some little vermin to kill in their own parish, and they must kill it before they left it. Q. Was Brandreth in the room all the while you were there? A. Yes. Q. Did he hear all that passed? A. Yes. Q. Did he speak to most of the persons who came in ? A. Yes. Q. Who called him the Captain? A. George Weightman, and some others. Q. To carry you back to the expression you just used, was it stated who the badger was? or what the badger was? A. Not while I was in the room. Cross-examined by Mr. Cross. Q. You say you were there from ten in the morning to two or three in the afternoon. A. Yes. Q. What were you doing there all the time? A. I was getting a pint or two of ale, and hearing the discourse. Q. They made no secret of this discourse to you? A. No, they spoke it openly; they set the people at defiance they said they did not mind who heard them. Q. You were in that company for four or five hours not partaking at all of the conversation of these parties? -a perfect stranger to their designs? A. Yes; I did not know of their meeting, or anything at all about it when I went; I was asked to go by a person who did know. Q. You had nothing at all to do with what they were about? A. I had nothing at all to do, but to tell them to mind that there were constables in the room, myself and Shirley Asbury, and they threatened to put us up the chimney. Q. You told them to mind, there were constables in the room, and they threatened to put you up the chimney? A. Yes. Q. Were you one of those constables yourself? A. Yes. Q. Having heard all this, and talking to them in this way, did it remind you that you were a constable? A. They knew that I was a constable. Q. Nobody called you a spy, or anything of that sort? A. No. Q. They made no objection to your being in their company? A. No; they were in the house before they called me in. Q. They called in the constable? A. Yes; whether the woman knew I was a constable or not, I do not know. Q. But they called in the constable to hear their debates and deliberations, did they? A. Yes. Q. Did you attempt to exercise your authority? Q. And to do what they pleased? A. They did what they pleased, and said what they pleased. Q. You admonished them to take care what they said? A. Yes. Q. Was that before you had heard much of what you have related to-day? A. Yes; it was in about a quarter or half an hour after I went in that I told them that. Q. When you had been there about half an hour, you thought it was time to let them know you were a constable? A. Yes. Q. There were two of you, two constables? A. Yes. Q. There were not always as many as forty people in the room? A. No; they kept coming in and going out. Q. Sometimes not above half a dozen ? A. Yes. Q. Sometimes more? A. Yes. Q. Sometimes less? A. There were not less than half a dozen. Q. Can you, considering how much fluctuation took place in the company in the course of four or five hours, take upon yourself to say who was present when each particular expression was used? A. Each particular expression? Q. About going to Nottingham; can you say who were present when it was proposed to send Weightman to Nottingham ? A. There were me and Shirley Asbury, and George · Weightman, and the Captain and others. Q. That you remember perfectly? A. Yes, there were more there. Q. It was the prisoner who repeated the verses which you have tried to repeat without success? A. Yes; and it was he who delivered out the papers; he wrote them himself. |