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Q. Can you tell us what number of bullets there are ! A. I should think there would be from one thousand five hundred to two thousand bullets ; I should think they are pot above an ounce each.
Q. Was there anything else in the bag?
A. There are sticks or something to make cartridges, moulds for cartridges,
Q. Was there any paper in the bag to make cartridges
A. Yes, there were.
Q. There were the bullets, the moulds, and the paper to make cartridges ?
Cross-examined by Mr. Cross.
Q. They were two men that knew their duty very well in that capacity ?
A. I am not aware that they had any particular directions upon their duty, they were sworn in at the spur of the moment, it being conceived there was great danger, there were no directions given to them I believe.
Re-examined by Mr. Serjeant Copley. Q. My Friend has asked you about your being sworn in as special constable, why were you sworn in as special constable !
A. Because we were apprehensive of a disturbance,
Q. Were there such symptoms as to induce you to fear that?
A. We conceived there was every symptom of it, there appeared to be a ferment in the neighbourhood.
Mr. Denman. If there are any facts from which Mr. Goodwin can state that, he may, but we cannot take his inference.
Mr. Justice Abbott. The fact is material, and that is proved.
Mr. Denman. It may be the merest hearsay in the world, it may be from what his wife said.
Mr. Justice Dallas. It is hardly worth while debating it, I should think.
Mr. Attorney General. No, my Lord, I think not..
Mr. George Raynor sworn.
Examined by Mr. Reynolds. Q. Were you a farmer in the parish of Heanor in the county of Derby in the month of June last?
Q. Early in the morning of Tuesday the 10th of June did any persons come to your house?
Q. Is your house situate near the turnpike road from Codnor to Nottingham 2
4. I think about four hundred, as nearly as I can calculate.
Q. Were they armed or not?
Q. Look at the Prisoner at the bar, do you know him?
A. Yes, I saw him, he was the first that entered.
Q. Had he anything with him when he came in ?
A. He presented his gun at me, and with an oath said “ damn your eyes turn out,” I stepped backwards and said
I shall not turn out,” he then followed me up and said " you won't, will you,” I said
,” I said " no, I won't." Q. You say he presented the gun to you, did he do anything else than present it?
4. After speaking to me twice be then cocked it. Q. Did he say anything?
A. He insisted upon my turning out and joining their party
Q. You say he cocked his gun, did he say anything about what had been done anywhere.
A. He desired me to remember that they had shot one man, and that I should share the same fate for my stupidity if I did not turn out.
Q. What did you say to that ?
A. I told him I should not go, I kept retreating towards the house.
Q. What did he do as you retreated ?
A. He jobbed the gun into my side several times, and insisted upon my turning out.
Q. Where were you at this time?
4. When I got about the middle of the house door he repeated “ damn your eyes, if you stir another foot I will blow it at you."
Q. Had you a gun in the room where you were ?
A. The Prisoner took it down, he said "you have got a gun I see, we must have this."
Q. Was it taken down, and by whom?
Q. Do you mean that several others charged their guns? A. Several other pieces were charged at the same time. Q. This being done, what was next said or done?
A. The next that was done, he turned round to me after he had charged the gun and said " you must go along with us."
Q. Did you make any answer, and what?
A. I told them I should not go ; before I left my own house I must know on what business they were going.
Q. Did anybody tell you on what business?
A. The Prisoner told me they were going to wipe off the National Debt.
Q. Did he say anything more?
A. That they would wipe off the National Debt, and begin again ?
Q. Did they say where they were going?
A. They mentioned that they had half an hour to spare,
A. I should think there were nearly fifty in the houseplace, the parlour, and the kitchen.
Q. Was there a servant of the name of James Raynor
A. At the time the Prisoner entered be was at breakfast in the kitchen.
Q. What became of him at last?
A. They took him along with them, and also killed a dog we had.
Cross-examined by Mr. Denman. Q. I think it was mentioned, though not by yourself, that you had said you would rather lose your life than go along with those persons one of the witnesses mentioned that.
Q. And I believe you came to no harm, except the loss of a dog, and the consumption of some beer and ale?
A. A few pitch-forks
Q. This conversation between you and Turner lasted a considerable time ?
A. More than half an hour ?
Q. The conversation in which he was endeavouring to persuade you to join them must have lasted a considerable time ?
A. Sometime it was I cannot tell how long.
Q. You say that after speaking to you twice, he cocked his gun; are you quite sure of that did he say he would cock it ?
4. I am quite sure that he took it down from his shoulder and cocked it.
Q. Did you see it in that state after it was cocked?
Q: Have the goodness to tell me, upon your oath, and I