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would not have been received with absolute derision. But whether it be true or no that the resources of the country are, (as I believe the spirit of the country to be), adequate to an extension of our exertions in the peninsular war, must, I allow, be matter of discussion hereafter. This, at least, is certain, that the imagination of man could hardly devise a situation of affairs in Europe so favourable to a great effort as that which has recently occurred. Since the commencement of the present war, since the commencement of the revolutionary war, the power of France was never so thoroughly occupied. Never has she played so deep a game; never has her hazard been so mighty; never has her ruin been so near its accomplishment. While the strength of France was withering in the north, Oh! that we had had the means of pushing to a successful extent our efforts in the peninsula! With such a general, and such a cause, what might we not have justly expected!-a general of whom it is not too much to say, that whatever might have been the scope of action opened to him, he would have made it one continued scene of glory to himself and his country. Looking at what he has already done, with means comparatively so limited, is it extravagant to presume, that with an increase, even a small increase of force, he might have occupied Madrid, not merely as the extremity, but as the centre of his operations? Considering the present state of France, and the general discontent that must pervade that country, considering the situation of Buonaparté, struggling with unexpected and unprecedented reverses, war and famine wearing down his exhausted legions in the north, might not lord Wellington before this time, instead of retreating within the frontiers of Portugal, have been advancing to the boundaries of Spain, and hovering from the brow of the Pyrenean mountains over insurgent provinces of the French empire?

But however questionable it may appear to some gentlemen, whether such an extension of our military efforts was indeed within our power, clear at least, I apprehend it will be admitted to be, that our power alone ought to have been the limit of our exertions;-the principle at least will be admitted, that an economy in war which restricts and husbands our efforts, is the worst description of economy; and that a great exertion, tending to

a sudden decision of the contest, at an opportunity peculiarly favourable, although it may be accompanied with twofold cost,-is best calculated to bring a contest to a speedy and honourable termination, and therefore most congenial to the interests as well as the character of the country. And however it may be doubted whether this doctrine could be practically applied to the contest in the peninsula, no man, I presume, will deny it to have been both within our power to apply, and peculiarly applicable to that third contest in which we are exclusively engaged-I mean the war with America. I will not detain the House with expressing what every man in the country feels in common with myself-an anxious wish that two nations, bound to each other by so many ties of consanguinity and interest, should remain in a state of amity. But, Sir, with America as with any other country, when once the die was cast, when once war was manifestly inevitable, it became us to be prompt in our measures, and, by vigorous proceedings, to bring the contest to a speedy and succesful termination. The Address moved by the noble lord states, that we learn from his Royal Highness, that the declaration of war by America was issued at a time when circumstances led his Royal Highness to hope, that the disputes between the two countries might be amicably arranged. If, Sir, the Address had stated that as our opinion, I could not have assented to such a statement. In receiving the opinion from his Royal Highness, we must presume his Royal Highness to speak from sources of intelligence not open to us. From any observation which I had the means of making at the time, I must say plainly that, when the declaration of war reached this country from America, (I believe it reached us on the day on which the last parliament was prorogued) I did not entertain the slightest expectation, nor was there on the face of the document, the slightest justification of any expectation, that what had been done in this country would remove the causes which had induced America to go to war with us. in that declaration, the demand for the rescinding of the Orders in Council, which had hitherto been insisted on by America, and still more by those who argued in favour of America on this side of the water, was studiously postponed to many other grievances. If America had ever

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intended to close with us on the Orders triumph. I really never did suppose that in Council, she had evidently reviewed we should be conquered. It never enthat intention, and had come to a de- tered into my mind that we should be liberate determination to go to war with compelled to seek for such a consolation. us unless we should likewise make every It never entered into my mind that the other concession that she demanded. mighty naval power of England would be It was evident, then, that the revoca- allowed to sleep while our commerce was tion of the Orders in Council alone could swept from the surface of the Atlantic; not restore peace; and therefore, Sir, and that at the end of six months war it until I obtain better information than that would be proclaimed in a speech from the of which I am at present possessed, I must throne, that the time was now at length continue to think that, war having been come, when the long-withheld thunder of declared by America, all that remained to Britain must be launched against an imthis country was, to determine how the placable foe, and the fulness of her power war could best be carried on. The best at length drawn forth. It never entered way to carry on any war is the way that into my mind that we should send a will lead soonest to peace; it is by vigour, fleet to take rest and shelter in our own not by forbearance and hesitation; it is ports in North America, and that we by exertions calculated to make an enemy should then attack the American ports feel and dread our power; that such an with a flag of truce. enemy as America, an enemy making a war of experiment, of experiment on her own force, and on your patience, would be soonest, and most effectually brought to reason. Sir, I would go to the extreme verge of concession to preserve peace; but when the preservation of peace becomes hopeless, I would not dilute my measures of hostility, I would not by a series of maukish palliatives, convert war, which is naturally an acute distemper, into a chronical one; and incorporate it with the habitual system of the country.

This war with America, which a prompt exertion might presently have subdued and swept away, has been nursed up by this petty policy, until it is probably fastened upon us for a considerable period. I will ask any man, whether, if two years ago, in the contemplation of a war with the United States of America, it had been prophesied to him, that after six months of hostilities, the only maritime trophies gained in the contest would be on the side of the United States, and our only consolation that we had not been conquered by land, he would not have treated such a prediction as an insult to the might, the grandeur, and the character of this country? It is true, Sir, we have not been Conquered by land. I am sure, I am disposed to pay my tribute of admiration to our gallant troops in Canada, and my tribute of regret to their heroic leader, with as much sincerity of feeling as any man; for individual heroism and selfdevotion, under any circumstances, are glorious; but really, Sir, what has happened in Canada is not a matter of great

When his Royal Highness tells us that, at the period of the American declaration of war, there were circumstances which led him to believe that peace might be restored, it must be that those circumstances were of a nature of which we and the public are wholly ignorant, but which in due time may, perhaps, be disclosed, and may then bear out such a belief. But certainly, on the face of the American declaration, any man must observe a studied mind to prevent pacification, or at least to defer it; and as to Canada, the desire entertained by the American government to possess that province, is not much frowned upon even by those Americans who are the best disposed towards this country. As an additional proof of the true tone and character of the American declaration, let it not be forgotten, that immediately after the promulgation of it an ambassador to France was appointed, who traced the steps of the Gallic conqueror, through the realms which he had devastated. A republican ambassador, bearing the homage of a free state to the conqueror (as he was taken for granted to be) of independent Russia, and authorised to sign, amidst the smoking ruins of Moscow, a treaty of hostility against the liberators of Spain! With such an exhibition of republican virtue and republican love of liberty before my eyes, faint, I confess, were the hopes which I could cherish, of a disposition on the part of America to conciliate Great Britain. Much has been said indeed, and too much cannot be said, or felt, of the natural affection that ought to subsist between the two countries; of the force of kindred

blood, of common interests, of common language. But, Sir, we are told by natural historians, that affection descends; that parents love their children more than children love their parents; and I would ask of those who, in this country, speak of America with parental affection, whether they do not begin to apprehend that they may have counted a little too much on a reciprocity of feeling on the part of their transatlantic offspring.

Before, however, I quit that part of the Address which relates to Canada, let me again guard myself against the possibility of being supposed to undervalue the heroism there displayed, or not to set its due value upon that exemplary loyalty in his Majesty's Canadian subjects which is stated in the Speech from the throne to have remained proof against all temptation. Most cordially do I concur in that sentiment of approbation, and, adverting to a vote which I had the honour of proposing to the House last year, in favour of his Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects, let me remind the House that these provinces of Canada, so assailed, and so attempted to be seduced, and so inaccessible to seduction, constitute the single specimen in the British empire, in which the Catholic is allowed to sit side by side with the Protestant in the legislature, as well as to fight side by side with him in the field!!

really playing the game of the party friendly to us? I doubt it. Here is a country divided into parties, one of which, to deter their countrymen from war, predicts the evils that must follow hostility with England: I cannot conceive a mode better calculated to diminish the influence of that party, instead of upholding it, than that of rendering their prophecies comtemptible, and enabling those opposed to them in politics to appeal to experience against their forebodings. But is this an ideal picture? By no means. I found the other day the report of a speech made by one of the party in America, whom we are told we ought to conciliate by forbearance. This gentleman (gen. German) endeavoured to divert the senate of the United States from its warlike resolutions, by an anticipation of the evils which Great Britain could inflict upon America the moment that war was declared. He observed, "that the first consequence of the maritime superiority of Great Britain, would be the loss of New Orleans, from which the English could not be dislodged without a great sacrifice of blood and treasure; that they might then pass northward along the American coast to Charleston and Norfolk ;" and he asked " if they thought it possible to defend those places, or that they would not be in the possession of the English in six days?" He assured the senate, "that if they calculated But to return to the war. For this sys- on the forbearance of the English, they tem of forbearance-of mitigated and half would be deceived;" and to ridicule afraid hostility, we are told there is a two- the notion, that, after the decisive step fold reason. We are told that we have of declaring war had been taken, any friends in America whom we should en- thing would postpone for a day the vendeavour to conciliate by mildness, and geance of Great Britain; "You are not that we should be careful to put ourselves to imagine," says he, "that England will completely in the right. No man can sub-complaisantly wait till you are prepared scribe more readily than I do to the to repel her attacks. She is not so simlatter proposition. So much so, indeed, ple in her enmity."-Alas! Sir, gen. that I confess, I should contemplate the German gave us credit for a promptitude Imost splendid victory that ever decorated which we did not possess; for a quicker the historic page with little admiration, if sense of insult and injury than belongs it were gained in a cause essentially un- to us we have shewn ourselves more just. It may also be wise to do whatever simple than the orator supposed us. may depend upon us, to forward the po- We have waited till America is prelitical views, and political preponderance pared. The decisive step of war was of the party in the United States;-I taken, and our vengeance yet sleeps. will not call it the English party, for that Nothing has happened in consequence of would be unjust;-but that party of good the American declaration of war, except Americans, who loving their country, and that America has captured our ships and consulting for her good, maintain the opi- attacked our provinces. But as for the nion that an alliance with England is pre-prophet of our resentment, his influence is ferable to an alliance with France. But, Sir, are we sure that by this system of restricted and inoffensive hostility we are

lost for ever. This injurious mode of backing our friends by falsifying their arguments has probably silenced the advo

[76 cates for peace with England, and left us But it was highly important that such an without a prediction in our favour on one accusation should be refuted. Another side of congress, or an apprehension of imputed cause of war is, that in 1809, our vengeance on the other.-Tremendous when we were engaged in an amicable nemust have been, even among the stoutest-gociation with America, an emissary was hearted of the advocates for war, the no- sent by our government into the territory tion of the mischiefs which we could in- of the United States to dismember the flict upon the coasts and navy of the Unit-union, and to stir up I know not what ed States. How they must now laugh at disturbances. That, Sir, is a charge which their own apprehensions! Tremblingly as ought for our own character, to have been they approached to the first acts of war, directly contradicted by our government what have we not done to re-assure their in the face of Europe. I speak the more nerves, and to take away from them every anxiously and earnestly on this point, reason to wish for the discontinuance of because it is one upon which I might hostilities? be supposed to have something to answer If, however, any man can show me, for individually, inasmuch as I had the that six months spent in impotent hosti- honour unworthily to hold the seals of lity, and that to negociate with an enemy's the Foreign Office in 1809, at the time fleet instead of capturing it, are the modes when this transaction, if it took place at of making a cause just, I submit. But, all, must have originated. For myself, I Sir, if it be so very desirable to put our- solemnly declare in the face of the whole selves in the right, surely there was a world, that if such a mission was dispatchshorter way. The declaration of war on ed, I had no knowledge of it; I was no the part of America was received about party to it; I never heard of it, until I the end of July. It imputed to us, beside saw it imputed to the British government the Orders in Council (which have been in the American declaration. The indigsufficiently discussed here to render any nation which I feel on my own account further observations upon them neces- at this accusation, I likewise feel for my sary), other substantive grounds of quarrel. sovereign and for my country. I hope This document, in the face of the world and trust that every member of the admiand of posterity, remains unanswered!-nistration of the time, can disclaim all Is it not the custom of European diplo- knowledge of any such transaction as macy, when a declaration of war imputes confidently as I do. But, Sir, such a disto one nation provocations to hostility, for claimer ought to have been made without the nation so accused to answer that de- loss of time. It is not indifferent to the claration? If, then, it was so desirable to cause and character of this country that it be in the right, why were not means re- should have lain six months under such an sorted to by the executive government to imputation. It may not be inoperative rebut the attack? Why is there not on as to the prolongation of the war: for the the table of this House, and why was American people may be better satisfied there not dispersed through Europe a with a war which they think has its distinct and satisfactory refutation of the grounds in justice and unrefuted calumcharges preferred by the American go- nies must pass with them for substantiated vernment? If it is answered that the charges. hopes of pacification were not abandoned by us, I reply, that such a refutation was rendered even more desirable by the supposed probability of an immediate restoration of peace. For had peace been concluded, then it would have been too late the accusation would have been recorded, and no public answer to it would have been in existence.

One of the imputations, for instance, contained in the declaration is, that we had demanded of America that she should force our produce and manufactures upon France. Such a demand would have been most unreasonable and unjust. I have no doubt that it was never made.

In both views, both for war and for peace, I could have wished that the experiment had been tried of a system the very reverse of that which we have adopted; that we had been prompt in refuting the accusations of the enemy, and in retaliating his aggression; instead of leaving him by our silence and our inactivity at once satisfied of the justice of his attack upon us, and fearless of its consequences.

Sir, with respect to the internal situation of the country, I have no occasion to trouble you with any remark. I have nothing to qualify in my assent to that part of the Address. There is only one point, a point

not stated, but omitted in the speech, upon which I think it necessary to say a few words. I allude to the Catholic question. Sir, I impute no blame for the omission of this subject in the speech, because I do not conceive that the operation of the Resolution which I had the honour to propose last year, and which this House adopted, was to impose on the executive government the duty of originating the consideration of the Catholic question. I originally had in contemplation a motion. which would have imposed on the executive government such a duty; but as objections were made by gentlemen whose support I wished to secure to transferring the care and guardianship of this important question from parliament to the executive government, I contented myself with moving a resolution declaratory of the determination of the House of Commons. This resolution being laid at the foot of the throne, did not, as I think, impose on the executive government the duty of originating the question; it did impose on them the duty of making up their minds to meet the discussion to which this House thus pledged itself. When that discussion shall come, I shall be satisfied if I find that government have made up their minds to meet it in a manly manner. Those who remember the occurrences of the debate which took place upon that motion of mine which pledged the House to consider the subject this session, will recollect that at the suggestion of the right hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Ponsonby), seconded by the recommendation of the hon. gentleman near him (Mr. Whitbread), I most willingly consented to surrender the further conduct of the discussion upon the Catholic question into the hands of that venerable individual (Mr. Grattan), who has so frequently brought it forward in this House, and whose experience and ability and eloquence are so well calculated to do it full justice. I was myself perfectly prepared to follow up my motion by bringing the whole subject this session in a specific and practical shape before parliament. But, considering the prior claims of that right hon. gentleman, I did not think it right to resist the appeal made to me in his behalf, for the restitution into his hands, of a question so peculiarly his own. Into his hands I cheerfully resigned it. In his hands I most heartily wish it 8 Iccess. So far as the general principle of his measure goes, he may be assured of

my humble, but zealous and hearty support and co-operation. Unacquainted as I am with the nature of the plan which he may have in contemplation, I of course must not be considered as pledged to its details. I must reserve to myself the right of acting upon them to the best of my own judgment and discretion; but I shall be deeply disappointed indeed if they should be such as to create any material difference of opinion.

Sir, with the qualifications which I have stated, I cordially concur in the Address so far as it goes to pledge with heart and soul all the means and resources of the country to the prosecution of the several contests in which we are engaged. In my conscience I believe that there are no present means of terminating them with safety and with honour. I am persuaded, (in the spirit of the observations made by the seconder of the Address,) that the greater the vigour with which we carry on the war, the nearer shall we be to the attainment of peace. It is not by hesitation and indecision that we can hope to attain that object, but by manly and indefatigable perseverance; by strenuous and unrelaxed exertion.

The Speaker again put the question, and no member on the opposition bench shewing a disposition to rise,

Lord Castlereagh said, that as the only task apparently to be imposed on minis ters this night, was rather to give explanation on points which might call for further investigation hereafter, than to meet opposition on any of the political features of the government, or of the subjects contained in the Prince Regent's Speech, he should not find it necessary to enter very minutely into the consideration of the various matters which had been touched upon. Considering what had fallen from the right hon. gentleman who spoke last to be calling for explanation, rather than as differing in opinion from those who had preceded him, he (lord C.) had waited in the expectation, that if any hon. gentleman on the opposite side had further information to require, that they would state what such information was, and thus enable him at the same time to reply to them, and endeavour to satisfy the right hon. gentleman. It was no small gratification to the country, and to the Prince Regent's ministers, at this momentous and difficult crisis of the world, to find, on the opening of a new parlia

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