dine there that day?—About eight, or it might be ten minutes after eight.

Who lives next to lord Harrowby? does the Archbishop of York?--The Archbishop of York on one side.

Do you know whether his grace had a dinner that day? did you observe carriages there?-I observed carriages there.

About what hour?-About six or seven o'clock.

John Monument sworn-Examined by
Mr. Solicitor General.

What are you by trade?-A shoe-maker. Where have you lately lived?--In Gardencourt, Baldwin's-gardens.

Is that near Brook's-market ?-It is. You are now, I believe, a prisoner in the Tower?-Yes.

Do you know the prisoner at the bar, Thistlewood? Yes.

Do you remember meeting him at a person's of the name of Ford ?—Yes.

How long is that ago ?-It was a few days before the meeting in Finsbury-market.

Tell me, as nearly as you can tell, how far back?-From this time?

How long back before the 23rd of February? Mr. Adolphus.—I have no objection to your giving the date of the Finsbury-meeting.

Mr. Solicitor General.-I do not know it. Witness. It might be about two months before the 23rd of February.

Did you see him again after that?—Yes, he called in about a fortnight or three weeks after that meeting.

Did he call alone, or was any person along with him?-The prisoner Brunt was along with him.

Tell us what Thistlewood said to you, when he called at your lodgings?-He said directly he came in (he had not been there above a minute or two) that he wished to speak to me privately, and I went outside the door with him; I am not certain that he used the word privately, but he wished to speak to me. Was any other person in the room?—My brother and my mother.

Did you, in consequence of that intimation from Thistlewood, go out of the room with him?—Yes.

Did Brunt go with you or stay behind?— He staid behind.

He

Who were all of them ?—I understood those men that belonged to him.

Those men to whom he had before alluded as standing by him?-Yes; he said I might buy a pistol for four or five shillings; I told him I had no money to buy pistols; I was too poor to do any thing of the kind; he then said he would see what could be done.

Was that all that passed with him at that interview? Yes, all that I recollect. Did Brunt call upon you again after that?→→ Yes.

How soon afterwards?—I suppose two or three days.

Did any thing material pass in conversation between you and Brunt at the time he so called the second time?-I do not recollect that there was; he said he was rather in a hurry; he had got several more people in our trade to call upon, and he had got two or three men waiting for him down stairs.

Do you remember Brunt calling upon you on Tuesday, the 22nd of February?—Yes, I do.

Was that the first time he had called after the last interview with him, to which you have just spoken ?-Yes, I am pretty sure it was.

You do not recollect any previous call?→ No, it was a long while between the two.

Was he alone, or accompanied by any per son?-He was accompanied by the prisoner Tidd.

What conversation passed between you and Brunt at that meeting? Was any thing said why he had not called?-Yes, that was the first thing-I said I thought I had lost him, and asked him the reason that he staid away so long; and he said, the reason was, that the king's death had made an alteration in their plans necessary: then I asked him what plans they were; he said that I should know at the meeting that was to be the night after, better than he could tell me.

This was on the Tuesday?—Yes.

Did he say any thing as to where that meeting was to be?—Yes; I asked him where, he said Tyburn-turnpike.

Did he tell you any thing about what was to be said or done at Tyburn-turnpike ?—No; I asked him how I was to know, by seeing the people about, who they were; and he turned round to Tidd, and asked him whether he should tell me the word.

What answer did Tidd make?—Yes, he said he supposed there was no danger.

Upon that what did Brunt say?—He said if I saw any people about, I was to go to them and say, b,u,t, and if they were friends they would answer t,o,n.

Did you agree to go?—He did not ask me positively whether I would go.

morning, and tell me more particulars.
Did they then leave you -Yes.
The next day did Brunt call again ?—Yes.
That was the Wednesday?—Yes.

Tell us what he said to you when he called on you alone?-He called me down stairs, and asked me whether I was ready to go with him; I said no, I had got some work to finish, that must be done before I could go. When he called you down stairs, was any body in the room out of which he called you?—Yes, my brother.

When you said you were not ready, what did he say?-He said I ought to go with him; I told him that I could not go till the work was done; he asked me how long that would be; I told him not before six o'clock.

Upon your telling him that, what did he desire you to do?—He told me he could not wait for me, but I must go to the person whom he brought with him the day before, whose name he said was Tidd, he told me where he lived in the Hole-in-the-wall passage, Brook's Market.

Did he at that time tell you any thing more as to the plan ?-No, nothing.

Did he go away upon having told you this? -Yes; after telling me not to be a minute after six o'clock when I went to Tidd's, for that Tidd had got some more men that he was to take with him to the meeting.

In consequence of this did you go to Tidd's house in the course of that afternoon?-In the course of the evening, about half-past six o'clock.

Did you find Tidd at home?—Yes.

What did he say to you?-He said, that several men that had promised to come had not been so good as their word, and that he should not wait longer than seven o'clock.

Did you wait till seven o'clock ?—Yes. Did any other persons arrive?—No. When seven o'clock came, what did Tidd do? He went to a corner of the room where there was a trunk, and took out a large pistol.

What did he do with it ?-Put it into a belt that he had got round his body, he then took about six or eight pikes, about a foot long.

Iron pikes, or pike shafts ?-Iron pikes. Six or seven did you say?—I suppose there might be about as many as that.

What did he do with them?-They were wrapped in brown paper; and he took a staff about four feet long, with a hole at one end of it.

Was that hole calculated to receive the ends of the pikes? Yes.

Did he take the pike heads with him?-Yes, he did.

You mentioned that a pistol was in a belt round his waist ?-Yes

Was that underneath his coat or over it? Underneath his great coat.

So that on his coat being buttoned you could not perceive it ?—No.

You went down stairs with him?—Yes. Which way did you go?-Through Brookstreet into Holborn.

And from Holborn where? Straight on to the top of Holborn up Oxford-street.

Did you at that time know, or had you previous information as to the place you were going to ?-No; I believe it was while I was in the room, I asked him where we were going to, and he said to a mews in John-street, Edgware-road.

In going along, did he tell you what you were to do, or had he told you before?—No. When we got into Holborn he gave me the pike staff; says he, "You take this."

Tell us what else he said as to what was to be done?-I asked him, as we were going along, where it was we were going to? He said I should know more about it when we got there; I still pressed him, I asked him whether we were going to the House of Commons.

What did he say ?-He said no, there were too many soldiers about there: I then asked him where it was we were going to, and at last he said, "Grosvenor-square." I then asked him whether any body particular lived at Grosvenor-square, by their going there particularly; and he said there was a cabinet dinner there that evening.

Did he say at whose house it was to be ?No, he did not.

Did you ask him, or did he tell you, what was to be done there?—No, I did not ask him any more. Upon his saying that, I was fully convinced what was intended.

From Oxford-street, where did you go to ?~ We went to the top of Oxford-street, and turned to the Edgware-road.

Do you know Cato-street?-I did not know it before, I know it now.

Did you go there?—Yes.

When you got to Cato-street, where did

you go.

When we got there, underneath the archway that leads to it, I saw two men whom Tidd seemed to know. He was a step or two before me, and spoke to them; we went, after stopping a few moments with them in the street, into a stable.

Did you go up the steps in the stable?— Yes.

About how many persons did you find in the stable and in the loft altogether? — I should suppose about four or five and twenty; but I had not been there above two or three minutes when some person asked how many there were, and proposed to count them; but Mr. Thistlewood said there was no occasion to count, for there were five and twenty.

When you got into the loft, and while you were there, was any thing said as to the plan they were going about?-There was a man that was sitting on one side of the bench (a carpenter's bench) a tallish thinish man with a brown great coat, with two belts on, and I think a sword by his side, and he was speaking of the impropriety of going with so small a number as five and twenty men to lord Harrowby's.

What took place upon that ?-I do not re

afterwards Mr. Thistlewood was gone for a few moments, and he came up stairs and said they had received intelligence that the duke of Wellington and lord Sidmouth were arrived at lord Harrowby's. I do not recollect any thing else passing till the officers came up.

"The largest body is gone from here?"-I do not know whether he said "from here," but "the largest body is gone.". Upon which, the prisoner Davidson spoke to this man, and said it was not right in him to throw cold water upon their proceedings; if he was afraid of his life, he might go, and they would do without him.

You were taken into custody in the room, I believe?-Yes, I was.

John Monument cross-examined by
Mr. Adolphus.

You say you had known Thistlewood: how long had you known him?—I never spoke to him before, till the time I saw him at Mr. Ford's at Lambeth.

That was when? how long before the meeting? do you recollect when about the meeting in Finsbury-market-place was?-No, I do not. Was that before or since Christmas?-I think it was before Christmas.

Did you attend there ?—Yes, I did; because Mr. Thistlewood asked me whether I should be there, when I was at Mr. Ford's.

Was Mr. Thistlewood at the Finsburymarket meeting?—I was too far off to see the persons that were. I cannot say whether he was or not.

Lord Chief Justice Abbott.-That was 'the man in the brown great coat?-Yes: upon which he proposed that all the persons,

Mr. Attorney General.-Who proposed?The man in the brown great coat; that all the persons in the room should put themselves under the orders of Mr. Thistlewood; upon which Mr. Thistlewood said that every one engaged in that business would have the same honour as himself, and he proposed that the fourteen men to go into the room should volunteer from among the persons then in the room. Upon his proposing that fourteen persons should volunteer to go into the room, what did he say then?—He said that those fourteen that volunteered should range themselves on the other side of the room, towards that part where the firing afterwards came from, when the officers came.

There was a small room on that side?—Yes, there was.

Did they do so?-Yes. I do not know whether the whole fourteen, but I believe twelve or thirteen out of that number did so in the course of a few minutes.

Was any thing said as to what the rest were to do? No. I heard nothing but the prisoner Tidd was coming out; he was one of the fourteen; he was coming out to me to say, you may choose your situation," when Mr. Thistlewood put him back, and said, “you all know your places."

Was the business of the meeting to consider ter?-I really cannot say. something about the transactions at Manches

You went to the Finsbury-market meeting, but did not take notice of what passed?—No, I did not take much notice. The day was very dirty, and I did not stop long.

There was no very particular acquaintance at that time between Thistlewood and you?— No.

How long had you known Brunt ?—I never knew him till Mr. Thistlewood brought him to my house.

Did you know a gentleman of the name of Edwards at all?-No.

A long time passed between your seeing Brunt at one time, and his calling again on the 22nd of February?—Yes, a good while.

And all your former conversations had passed for nothing? in that time you thought no more of them?-I thought, not seeing me eager to follow their plans, they had left me.

So you said when they called again, "I thought I had lost you?"-Yes.

On the 22nd, however, you were to be trusted with the letters b, u, t, and some person was to give you t, o, n?—Yes.

And that was all that was confidentially reposed in you?—Yes.

You had no occasion to use those letters, I think?—No; because I went with Tidd. When you went to the room in Cato-street there were twenty-five there?—Yes.

You must have been dreadfully crowded in that room? There were three or four in the room below.

Even then you must have been dreadfully crowded?—No, they were almost all standing. How high was the room? you are a short man?-Yes.

Do you think the ceiling was as high above your head, as that board over you?—Yes. There was a carpenter's bench in the room, was not there?—Yes.

That took up a good deal of space?—Yes. A man could not stand upon that?—No. Was not the room entirely filled with you twenty, if there were twenty?—Not entirely filled.

Do you know the man in the brown coat, who he was?—No, I do not.

Have you since learnt that his name was Adams?—No, I know it was not him. Some man in a brown coat, whom you do not know?-No.

What part was Adams playing there?-I do not remember him.

You do not remember his being there at all? -No.

You knew Adams ?-No.

Did the man in the brown coat squint, or had he any thing particular about his eyes? No; but I have seen the prisoner Adams at Hicks's hall, and again here, and I know that it is not him.

Do not you recollect Adams being there, and saying or doing any thing, for he is a very remarkable person?—No.

Did you go about the room, and see who were there?—No; I stood by the side of the

bench.

Were there any men particularly tall?—I do not know.

Were there any men at all of Adams's size and height? I cannot tell that.

Were you sitting or standing?-Standing generally; the man in the brown great coat was sitting on a little bench on the other side. They were a good many of them, eating bread and cheese, were not they ?—Yes; some of them were.

There was some bread and cheese produced, and they flew at it like famished men?—I did not see that.

They were eating bread and cheese, however? Yes.

And they had some porter too?—Yes. Cannot you recollect Adams being there ?— No, I cannot.

Are you sure he was not there?—I am sure I cannot take upon myself to say that.

Have you any consciousness whatever of ever having seen him, until you saw him at Hicks's hall?-No; but the same observation may be made of many others.

Your observation is ingenious and just; you may have seen many persons and not have recognized them again?-Just so.

He is a man of remarkable appearance, with his eye and all?-Yes he is.

Do you know any of the other prisoners? I know the prisoner Davidson.

He is a man of colour?—Yes.

Do you know any other? - Thistlewood, Tidd, Brunt.

Those you know out of doors?—Yes. And Davidson whom you know by his colour?-Yes.

The others made no impression upon you? No; but I recollect seeing the prisoner, Strange, in the room.

Why do you recollect him particularly ?— Only that he was a short man, the same as myself, and standing by the side of me.

Have you told us all that passed there, according to your hearing and observation of it? Yes, I have.

?

You can tell me nothing about Adams ?No.

Did you hear any person make any observation except the man in the brown coat?-No.

If any observation had been addressed like that by the man in the brown coat, should you have heard it?—I suppose I might.

You must?—Yes; perhaps I might.
How large is the room?-I cannot say.

It was a very small room; the twenty nearly filled it?-Not very small; I should say, there would not have been room for twenty more.

Would there have been room for ten more? I think there might.

Was it as long as that box those gentlemen are sitting in?-Longer than that.

As long as that and the next?—I cannot say.

If any person had spoken with an audible voice addressing the whole, do you think you should have heard it ?-I think I should.

You had totally lost sight of those people from the day of the Finsbury-meeting, to the 22nd of February?—Yes; I had, excepting when Mr. Brunt called upon me.

Was the conversation you had spoken of between the brown coated man and Mr. Thistle wood, and the others, so loud, that every person might have heard it?—I cannot say; but I was standing as near to that person with the brown coat as I am to you.

Was it so loud that every person within that distance must have heard it?—Yes; I suppose it was.

You come here in very honourable custody, I see, with greater attendants than you ever expected to have?—Yes.

Were you taken upon the spot or how?— Yes, I was taken in the room.

You surrendered, I suppose, when the officers came up?-When the soldiers came up. You made no resistance?-No. Had you any arms?-No; I had nothing about me; I was searched directly.

John Monument re-examined by
Mr. Solicitor General.

Were you one of the last that came into the room?—I cannot say how many came in after

me.

Was the room nearly full when you came? -Yes.

How long had you been there before the officers came?-About a quarter of an hour before the officers came.

Did you know any of the persons in the room before you came there except Tidd, Brunt, and Thistlewood? No; except the prisoner, Davidson, whom I had seen at one or two of the meetings.

The persons of all the rest in the room you were unacquainted with ?—Yes.

Was it candle light?—Yes; there was a candle in the room.

Juryman.-Only one?-I am not certain about that; I know there was one; I cannot speak to others.

Mr. Solicitor General.-What was there upon the carpenter's bench? There was a great quantity of swords and pistols, and two or three blunderbusses.

You spoke about Strange, that Strange stood by you; was Strange apprehended at the same time with you?-Yes.

You were both taken into custody together? -Yes.

How many were there in the room when the soldiers came in and took you into custody? -Four.

The soldiers took you all into custody?— Yes.

A gentleman has asked you about Edwards; do you remember when you were brought up at Whitehall, being handcuffed with Mr. Thistlewood?—I was.

Did Mr. Thistlewood say any thing to you about Edwards ?-Yes; he said, when I was examined before the privy council, if I was asked who brought me to the meeting, I should state Mr. Edwards.

What did you reply to that?I asked him how I could tell them such a falsehood, when he knew I had never seen the man.

What did he say in answer?-He laughed, and said that was of no consequence, for if I was asked what sort of a person he was, I was to say he was a man not much taller than I was, of a sallow complexion, and dressed in a brown great coat.

A Juryman (Mr. Goodchild).-My lord, I should be glad to ask that witness one question: whether, since his apprehension, he has had any conversation whatever with a man of the name of Adams? No, I have not, except speaking a word or two to him, but none concerning this business.

Mr. Solicitor General.-Have you been kept separately confined?—Yes.

Did you ever see him, except when you were taken up as a witness to Hicks's-hall, and when you were brought here to-day?-Never.

Thomas Monument sworn.-Examined by
Mr. Solicitor General.

I believe you are brother to the last witness
John Monument ?—Yes, I am.

Do you remember your brother meeting Mr. Thistlewood at the house of a person of the name of Ford ?-Yes, I heard him speak of it. You were not there yourself, but heard him speak of it?—I was not there.

Do you remember Thistlewood, after you had had that conversation with your brother, calling upon your brother?-Yes, he did.

Do you know Brunt?-Yes, Thistlewood brought Brunt with him.

After they had come into the room, did they stay there for any considerable time?—No, I suppose not above five, or it might be ten minutes; I cannot say exactly to the time.

What did they do? They did nothing; there was some conversation passed.

Did they go out of the room?-Yes, Thistlemitted to speak with him. wood asked my brother if he might be per

brother, did they go out of the room together? Upon Thistlewood's saying that to your -Yes, they did.

How long did they remain out?-They_remained out, I suppose, about two or three minutes.

Did they then return into the room?-Yes. Did Thistlewood and Brunt go away together? Yes, they did.

Do you remember, on the Tuesday before the Cato-street business, Brunt calling upon your brother?-Yes.

of the name of Tidd with him. Did he call alone ?—No, he brought a man

Lord Chief Justice Abbott.-Did he mention before?—No. his name at the time, or did you know him

Mr. Solicitor General.-Was his name mentioned at the time?-Brunt mentioned his

name.