It is

the room where gentlemen were

The things with the tarpaulin ?—Yes; and they meant to set fire to lord Harrowby's house. What did they say would be the effect of putting them into the room where the gentle men were at dinner?-He said that all who escaped the explosion were to die by the edge of the sword, or some other weapon.

Did he mention to you the names of any persons whose houses were to be set fire to? The duke of Wellington's, lord Harrowby's, lord Sidmouth's, lord Castlereagh's, the bishop of London's, and one more that I cannot remember.

Did you tell him you would be one?-He told me they should depend upon me for making one, and I told him I would.

Before the 23rd, did you write a letter to my lord Castlereagh ?—I did.

Did you go to his house?—I did.

You did not get access to him?—I did not. After you had done that, did you go and watch lord Harrowby out of his house to Hydepark?--I did; I went two or three times; at last I saw a gentleman mount his horse, and go towards the park.

Did you deliver to him the letter you had written to lord Castlereagh ?—I did.

Is that the letter? (showing a letter to the witness.)-This is the very letter.

I do not ask you what passed between his lordship and you; the next day did you see Wilson again ?-Between four and five o'clock in the afternoon, I was going up Manchesterstreet with one of my little girls, he said, "Hiden, you are the man I want to see."

What more did he say ?-I said, "Wilson, what is there going to be?" and he said, there is a cabinet dinner to-night at lord Harrowby's in Grosvenor-square; I asked him where they were going to meet; he told me I was to go up into John-street, and at a public-house the corner of Cato-street, the sign of the Horse and Groom; and there I was to stop in the public house, or to stop at the corner at the post till I was shoved into a stable close by. What did you ask him next?-I asked him what time I was to meet him, and he said I was to meet them at a quarter before six, or by six o'clock at furthest; and if I did not make haste, the grand thing would be done before I came.

Upon this, did you ask him any further questions?—I asked how many there were to be, and he said between twenty and thirty; I asked him if that was all the party that was in Catostreet, and he said there was another party; one party in Gray's-inn-lane, another party in the Borough, another in Gee's-court, or in the city, I am not certain which.

Did he say any thing more about Gee'scourt?-He told me I had no occasion to be alarmed, all Gee's-court was in it.

What description of persons live in Gee'scourt?-I believe them to be almost all Irish, what I know of them,

Did he say any thing about the Irishmen ?— He said the Irishmen were all in it, but they would not act till the Englishmen began first; as the Englishmen had so often deceived the Irish, they would not begin before the English had.

Did he mention what places those parties were to go to ?—He said our party was to go to lord Harrowby's, and do the grand thing, and then all parties were to retire and meet somewhere about the neighbourhood of the Mansion-house.

Did he mention what was to be done in other places?-He told me there was two pieces of cannon that would be very easily taken by knocking in a small door.

Did he mention any others to be got elsewhere?-He said there were four others, at some Artillery-ground-I do not remember, where-which were easily to be got at by killing a sentry. Did you

left him.

then leave him?--I then, I believe,

Did you go to John-street that evening ?I did.

At about what time ?-Between six and seven o'clock, I believe it to have been near seven when I got there.

When you got near the gateway by the Horse and Groom, whom did you see?When I got near the gateway, I there met Wilson and Davidson the coloured man standing near a post.

Had you known Davidson before?—Yes.

And conversed with him?-Yes, many times. I do not, at present, ask you what had passed between you; what did Wilson say? Wilson said, "You are come;" I said, "Yes, I am come, but I am behind my time;" I told him that I had to get some cream, which I was obligated to go and get.

Did Davidson then say any thing?-Davidson asked me if I was going in; he said if I was going in, Mr. Thistlewood was in there.

Did you ask them any question?-I asked them what time they would go away from there, as I must go and get some cream; and he told me they meant to leave that place about eight o'clock.

Did he tell you what you were to do, if they. should be gone?-They told me, if they were gone from there before I came back, I must follow them to Grosvenor-square, the fourth house from the corner, at the bottom, on the other side, I should find them.

Thomas Hiden cross-examined by Mr. Curwood.

How long have you known Wilson?-Four or five, or six months.

You must have been very intimate with him, I should think?-I have been a good deal with him, at a master tailor's, a friend of mine that worked for me, Mr. Clarke's.

I observed, the very thing he asked you was,. whether you would be one of a party to kill

his majesty's ministers ?-He did; he asked me, whether I would be one of a party to destroy his majesty's ministers.

And you told him you would?-I did. Had you been at those political meetings? -I had never been to any but two; I went to what they called a shoemakers' club twice.

I do not ask as to shoemakers' clubs?-I was induced by my friend Mr. Clarke to go with him to it on a Sunday-evening.

And you found yourself mistaken when you got there?-There was nothing particular that evening.

You went again ?-Yes, another Sunday night; and those were the only two times I was ever there.

You never did attend those private meetings? -I never was at a private meeting in my life. You will swear that ?-Yes.

Do you know a man of the name of Bennett?—I do, perfectly well.

What is the Bennett you know?—I know one Bennett a bricklayer.

Did you ever persuade him to attend those meetings?-I never persuaded him; I said one evening, when Mr. Clarke called on me, "I dare say Mr. Bennett will go with us."

Did not you tell him something was to be done for the good of your country, and persuade him to go?-I said perhaps he would go; there was Mr. Clarke as well as me.

Did you not persuade him to go, and tell him something was to be done for the good of this country?-I cannot swear that I did, nor that I did not; I asked him to go down to the shoemakers' club with us.

Look at the jury?—I can look at them. Did you not persuade him to go, and tell him that something was to be done for the good of the country?—I cannot say positively that I did.

Will you swear you did not?—I asked him, whether he would go down with my friend Clark and me to a club; we were all neighbours together.

He will be called to contradict you if you deny it; did not you persuade him to go and tell him that something was to be done for the good of the country?-I cannot say; I asked him if he would go with me.

Will you deny that you told him something was to be done for the good of your country? -Upon my oath, I do not think I did.

Will you deny it, or admit it?—I can say no more than I recollect.

You will not deny it, nor admit it?—I cannot say further.

The first time that you saw Wilson was the 23rd of February?—It was, till I came into this court.

It was not till the 23rd that you knew the meeting was to be in Cato-street?-Yes, it was before the 23rd I knew there was to be a meeting.

Was it told you where till the 23rd ?-No, it was not.

You did not know it till the 23rd ?-I did not, till the afternoon of the 23rd.

And you made your communication to lord Harrowby on the 22nd ?—I have not said that. Mr. Gurney.-No, he has not fixed the day. Mr. Curwood.-It was before the 23rd?— Yes.

You did not communicate to his lordship the place where the meeting was to be?-I did not.

You wrote the letter yourself?—I did. Take a pen and write a word or two? Mr. Gurney. It should be at the table. Mr. Curwood. I am told he cannot write at all; I may be misinformed.

the paper)-is that enough? I am not much Witness.-There is my name-(handing in

of a scholar.

Mr. Curwood.-Yes; it is a mistake cer<< tainly; I was told he could not write.

Brunt. My lord, I desire that witness may leave the court.

Wilson.-Turn him out of court.

[The prisoners hissed the witness as he passed the bar.]

The Earl of Harrowby sworn.-Examined by Mr. Attorney General.

You are a privy councillor, and one of his majesty's ministers ?—I am.

Be good enough to enumerate the noblemen and gentlemen who compose what is called the cabinet?-My lord chancellor; the earl of Westmoreland, lord privy seal; the earl of Liverpool, first lord of the Treasury; Mr. Vansittart, chancellor of the Exchequer; my lord Castlereagh, secretary of state for the foreign department; lord Sidmouth, secretary of state for the home department; my lord Bathurst, secretary of state for the colonial department; lord Melville, first lord of the Admiralty; the duke of Wellington, master. general of the Ordnance; Mr. Robinson, president of the Board of Trade; Mr. Bragge Bathurst, chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster; Mr. Canning, president of the India board; Mr. Wellesley Pole, master of the Mint; and the earl of Mulgrave.

Has it been usual for those noblemen and gentlemen to give what are called cabinet dinners?—It has.

In consequence of the death of his late majesty, had those dinners been suspended?— They had.

Had your lordship intended to give a cabinet dinner on the 23rd of February last?— Certainly.

How long before that day had the cards of invitation been issued by your lordship?—I believe on the Friday or the Saturday preceding; probably on the Saturday.

Did your lordship, before the 23rd of February, see the witness who has been just examined, Hiden?—I saw him in the Park, near Grosvenor-gate; he is the same person whom I have just seen examined.

George Caylock sworn.-Examined by Mr. Littledale.

Where do you live?—At No. 2, Cato-street. Did you see any person on the 23rd of February, who attracted your attention ?—Yes; a man of the name of Harrison.

Where did you see him?—I saw him go into the stable.

Did he say any thing about the stable ?He said he had taken two chambers, and was cleaning them up.

Did you see any persons go into that stable that evening?—Yes; I suppose from twenty to twenty-five I saw go in and out.

George Thomas Joseph Ruthven sworn.-Examined by Mr. Bolland.

You are a constable at the public office at Bow-street?-I am.

Were you directed, on the 23rd of February last, to go to Cato-street, Edgware-road?-I

was.

At what time did you get there?—About | six o'clock, when I first went.

Did you go alone, or with any party of police officers?-I had three then.

Were you afterwards joined by more?—I

was.

Did you go to the Horse-and-Groom publichouse, when you first went ?—I did.

When you were in that house, did you see either of the prisoners at the bar come in?Cooper and Gilchrist.

Did Cooper bring any thing with him?—A stick.

What sort of a stick?-A mep-stick. Did he leave that stick?—He did. Did you take possession of that stick?—I did.

You have it ?-I have it.

After this did you go into any stable?—I did.

At what time did you enter the stable?— About half-past eight, as near as can be.

Upon going in, what did you observe?—I observed a man with a gun on his shoulder, and a sword by his side.

What was he doing?-Walking backwards and forwards, appearing as a sentinel.

Do you know at all who that man was?-I do not.

What did you do?-I called on the party following me to seize that man, and take care of him.

What did you yourself do?—I went up a ladder in the stable.

There was a ladder from the stable communicating with the room above?-There was. When you reached the top of the ladder, what presented itself to you?-I saw several men; I saw a bench, and heard the clattering of arms.

Did you perceive any arms ?-I did.

Of what description?-Swords and pistols.
Did any of the officers go up with you?—
They did.

Which of them?-Ellis and Smithers. Did you see any body in the room whom you knew? Yes.

State who that person was?—Thistlewood. Where was Thistlewood?-He stood on the right of the bench, as we went up stairs. Had you known Thistlewood before?-I had.

Did you say any thing on having gained the loft?-I did; I said, “we are officers, seize their arms."

Did Thistlewood do any thing upon that?— He did; he drew a sword from the table, and retired into the small room on one side.

With his sword in his hand?—Yes. Was there any light in the first room, in the loft?-There was.

Was there any light in the small room?— There was.

What did Thistlewood do with that sword? He stood fencing with it; shaking his arm round in that sort of way.

Whilst he was so fencing with it, did Smithers advance towards him?--He did.

On Smithers advancing to him, what did Thistlewood do?-He put his arm forward in that manner (describing it), and stabbed him.

What became of Smithers?-He fell back, saying, "Oh, my God!" or, "Oh, I am done;" I do not know which.

He was killed?-He fell against me, he died directly, I believe; I heard no more.

What further passed?-A pistol was fired, and the lights were put out.

What happened after the lights were put out?-In the room where Thistlewood was, I heard a voice cry out, "Kill the brs, throw them down stairs."

What did you do upon hearing that ery?There was a rush towards the stairs; I joined in the cry, and got down with them.

You joined in the cry, " Aye, kill them all," and got down with them?-Yes.

On going out, did you meet the soldiers ?—I did, in John-street.

Did you return?—I did.

Upon your return, did you see either of the prisoners at the bar?—I did; Tidd.

Where was Tidd?-He was then about eight or ten feet, I should think, not much more from the stable-door.

What was he doing?-He appeared to me endeavouring to get away.

Had he any thing in his hand?—I did not observe it then, till I said to somebody "Seize that man ;" he then lifted his arm as if to fire, and I saw he had a pistol in his hand.

Did you seize him?—I laid hold of the arm in which he had the pistol, and swung him round, and fell upon a dung heap, and he upon me.

Did any one release you from that situation? -The soldiers were up directly, and the pistol went off.

Was Tidd taken into custody?—He was.
Did you search him ?—I did.

State how he was accoutred, and what you

found upon him?-He had a light-coloured leather belt round him, and two ball-cartridges. Where were they?-In his pocket.

- Did you go to the Horse and Groom? It was in the Horse and Groom where I searched him.

Was Bradburn brought in ?—He was.
Did you search him?—I did.

How was he accoutred?-He had a string tied round his waist four or five times, and he had six ball cartridges in his pocket, and three loose balls.

A string was tied round his waist as a belt or sash? It would act as a belt to carry any thing in.

Where were the ball cartridges?-In his breeches pocket.

Where were the bullets?-In his breeches pocket.

Was Davidson brought in?—He was.

Was Davidson searched in your presence? -He was searched, while I was searching the other, I believe.

Was Wilson brought in?—He was.

Did you search Wilson, or not?-I did not. Did Davidson say any thing when he was brought in?-He did; he damned and swore against any man that would not die in liberty's cause; he gloried in it; he likewise sung part of the song, "Scots, wha ha' wi' Wallace bled."

Did Wilson say any thing?-He said it was all up; they might knock him on the head now. Did you return to the loft after this?—I did. In what state did you find the loft ?-I found several soldiers there, and some of the police there.

Any of the prisoners?-Four of the prisoners. After the candle had been put out in the loft when you made your escape, was there any firing in the road or from the loft?-Many shots, I should think between twenty and thirty.

From the loft, and in the road?-Some of the shots appeared fired out of the loft; the noise was not similar to those within.

Out of the window ?-Yes.

Did the shots proceed from the party that you saw in the loft ?-I have no doubt of it. Mr. Baron Garrow.-Not from your party? -Certainly not.

Lord Chief Baron.-Did they shoot into the stable, any of them?-I am not aware.

Had any of your party gained the loft besides yourself, Ellis, and Smithers ?—I was not aware myself of any more.

Did you fire any shot?-I did not; I attempted, but the pistol missed.

Ellis did fire once?—I have understood he did; I do not know it myself.

And Smithers not at all?-Certainly not; I can answer for him, for he was rather before at this time on my right.

James Ellis sworn.-Examined by

Mr. Attorney General.

Did you go with Ruthven on the evening of the 23rd of February to Cato street?I did. Were you with him when he entered the stable?-As close to him as I could possibly follow.

When you came into the stable, did you see any men in the stable?—I did.

Where did you see any one?-There was one man between the foot of the ladder and the door, with his face towards the door.

Did you observe whether he had any belts on?-He had two belts across his shoulders, white ones.

Had he any thing in his hand?In his right hand he had a carbine or short piece, something of that kind; and at his left side, a long sword.

Did you observe, whether he was a man of colour or not?-On passing him, I turned him half-round, and looked in his face, and observed he was a man of colour.

What sized man?-A tall stoutish man. Have you seen the prisoner Davidson ?-Í have; I believe it to be him.

Did you see any other person in the stable? -There was another near the manger, in the furthest stall.

Near the ladder ?-Between the foot of the ladder and the manger of the further stall.

Did you observe what sort of person that was?—I had a very slight view of him, but he had a brown coat on, and appeared shorter than the man of colour, at least a dark-coloured coat.

I believe Ruthven mounted the ladder first? -He did.

And you followed him?—I did.

As you were going up the ladder, did you hear any person from the stable say any thing by way of alarm to the persons above?I did; I heard some person below say, " above men;" the last words were men, but I cannot be certain to the expression.

What did you observe, when you got up the ladder into the loft?-I observed a number of men falling back between the bench that stood in the room, towards the wall on the side of the room.

Did you observe what was upon that bench? -I observed there were lights upon it.

Did you observe any thing else; were there any arms? There were some arms, but what I cannot say.

Do you know Thistlewood?I know him

now.

Did you see him in the loft when you got up?-I did; he was at the end of the carPenter's bench, with two or three men, near the door leading into the little room.

Had he any thing in his hand, or did you see him take any thing in his hand?He had a sword in his hand.

titude.