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sayse sir cholast minket enthat is the mean that desperation was that you swore before the it was said, it was to raise 60,000 men in Ireland grand jury true, upon your oaih ? at any time whenever the French or the Spa- Murfey. I can't say but it was. nish King should wage war with England, Scot- Serj. Jeff Repeat it; tell my lord and the land, or Ireland. And this man did confess jury what it was, and tell the truth. before my face to Father Duffy, that it was Murfey. I have forgot it. not only to exalt himself, but all the Romish Att. Gen. Why then, I would ask you a litclergy, and all the gentry that had lost their tie; you remember I was by, and it is no laugh.

ing matter, Mr. Murfey, you will find it so. Plunket. Mr. Duffy, one word with you: What do you know of any orders issued out Is not this out of malice to me, for correcting by Mr. Plunket to raise money from the some of the clergy?

priests ? Duffy. You had nothing to do with me, for Murfey. I know there were orders, and I I was a friar.

took the orders myself in my hand. Att, Gen. Swear Edmund Murfey (which Att. Gen. From whom had you those ordets? was done.) Tell your whole knowledge of Dr. Murfey. From another, and not from him. Plunket and the Irish Plot.

Att. Gen. Under whose hand were those Murfey. May it please you, my lord, I was one of the first discoverers of this plot; but of Murfey. They were from the Primate. nine witnesses, I have but one in town.

Alt. Gen. Did you see any order undet L. C. J. Well, tell your own knowledge.

Plunket's hand for raising of money! Murfey. Now I beg your lordship, as to Dr. Murfer. No, but under the Vicar General's, Plunket, that you will respite it till next term; by his authority, as I suppose. I could bring ten witnesses.

Att. Gen. Upon your oath, did you not swear Att. Gen. Do you speak your own evidence? | before the Grand Jury, that you saw the orders Murfey. I refer it to the king and council, under his hand ? what evidence I have given.

Mursey. No, I did not, or I was mistaked, L. C. J. Do not trouble yourself, be directed for it was only by his direction. a little: You are here now to speak what you Att. Gen. "Pray had you any converse with know concerning any treasons, or any other Oliver Plunket about the raising of money? matters against the king, done by Dr. Plunket; Murfey. Oliver Plunket about the raising of speak your own knowledge, for as to other wit- money? nesses we do not call you.

Ali. Gen. Yes, that is a plain question, Murfey. If I be called in question for this Murfey. It was about other matters 1 cor-evidence

versed with him. Att. Gen. Come, sir, you have been at the Att. Gen. But did you converse with him Spanish ambassador's lately, answer iny ques- about money? tion; have you ever been with Plunket in Ire- Murfey. No, not about the money. land ?-Murfey. Yes, Sir.

Att. Gen. Upon your oath, did you converse Att. Gen. Have you ever heard him own with him about bringing in the French? bimself Primate of Ireland ?

Serj. Jeff: Declare the truth, come. Murfey. Yes, Titular Primate.

L. C. J. Come, don't trifle; what discourse Att. Gen. Under whom did he claim that have you had with the prisoner about raising of authority ? under the king, or under the pope? money, or bringing in the French ? Either of

Murtey. I think he could not be under the them, Sir? king at all.

Murfey. I know this, if the duke of York Att. Gen. Under whom then ?

and duke of Ormond had proceeded according Murfey. It must be either the king or the to their intentions, it was a general expectation pope.

at the same time, that all the French and Irish L. C. J. Answer the directly, did he claim to would come and fall upon the English nation, be titular primate under the pope ?

as I understood. Murfey. I suppose he did.

L. C. J. Pray answer the question directly : 1. Č. J. Was he reputeti generally so to be? You must not come and think to trifle with the Murtey. Yes, my lord.

court, you must speak the truth, you are sworn At. Gen. Mr. Murtey, remember what you to it; you must not come to quibble and run swore before the grand jury: pray recollect about to this, and that, and tother, but answer yourself whether that be true, and tell all. directly, have you had any discourse with the

L. C. J. You are upon your oath, you must prisoner about orders for raising of money it. speak the truth, and the whole truth; you must Ireland ? not mince or conceal any thing.

Murfey. Yes, I have seen orders from his Serý. Jeff. Were you sworn before the grand Vicar General for the raising of money. jury?

L. C. J. Hath he owned them to be by hisi Murfry. I was sworn before the king and direction ? parliament.

Asurfey. Not before me, but others he has. Serj. JeffDid you give in any evidence to Att. Gen. Have you seen any money paid to


Murfey. To whom?

Att. Gen. We both heard him, and he gave 4tt, Gen. To Plunket.

the fullest evidence, much fuller to all instances Murfey. To the Vicar General I have. and particulars of this High-Treason, much L. C. J. But to Plunket?

fuller than Duffy, to the grand-jury. AfterMurfey. None to Plunket.

wards, about three weeks ago, the trial coming L. C. J. Have you had any discourse with on, he ran away and lay hid; I took a great him at any time about the raising of money deal of pains to find him out, and sent messenwhich the Vicar General gave order for? gers about į at last I heard he was got to the

Mursey. I have had discourse with the Vicar Spanish ambassador's, I sent, and they spied General.

him in the chapel ; but the Spanish ambassaL. C. J. Sir, don't trifle ; have you


dor's servant fell upon the messengers and with him?

beat them, the ambassador was first sent to Murfey. With him ?

about it, and his excellency promised that he L. C. J. Yes, with him.

should be brought, and when he was found Murfey. Yes, I have had some discourse he told me but the last night, that all be had with him.

sworn before the grand jury was true, and he L. C. J. Tell me what discourse this was ? was ready to make it out again.

Murfey. I think it was about this: If the L. C. I. And now he says, he knows not duke of York and the duke of Monmouth fell what he said then ; pray take notice of that. put together, that he had some men to raise Murfey. I told the grand jury this, that my about the matter, and if the duke of Monmouth lord Plunket had a design to get 60 or 70,000 would raise the Protestant religion, men in Ireland, if the duke of York and the

Att. Gen. You see he hath been in Spanish duke of Monmouth should fall out. hands.

Att. Gen. Did you tell a word of that to the L. C. J. Were you a Protestant, Sir ? grand-jury? Murfey. No, I am a priest.

Murfey. Yes, sir, or I was mistaken.' Serj. Jef. He is to seek yet.

Att. Gen. Not one word of that did he then Murfey. I am indifferent whether I be a say, Protestant or priest.

L. C. I. Do you own this man, Dr. Plunket, Alt. Gen. My lord, he is a priest in orders, to be of your religion? and so hath acknowledged himself,

Serj. Jefferies. Do you know this Seeker ? Murfey. Yes, I am a priest, but it makes me Plunket. He


himself he is indifferent to forget myself to see so many evidences to come be a protestant or a papist. in, that never knew Plunket.

Serj. Jefferies. I will only try you by one L. C. J. Sir, you refuse to answer those question more, for you are sought out, and it questions that we put to you here,

may be you may be found: do you know how Murfey. What I said before the Parliament, many men he was to raise in Ireland ? rememI answer punctually.

ber what you said to the grand jury. L.C. J. You are asked questions here, and Murfey. 70,000 men. produced as a witness, will you answer direct- L. C. J. What were they to do? ly, or not?

Murfey. For establishing if occasion should Murfey. Yes, I will.

L. C. J. Then let me hear what discourse Serj. Jefferies. Establishing, establishing you had with the Primate Pluket concerning what? wy mopey raised by him or his Vicar General. Murfey. Of the Romish religion. Murfey. May it please your lordship, first of Serj. Jefferies. Well,

so far we have got 70,000 all, I did not impeach Primate Plunket, but the men to establish the Romish religion: What, officers and justices of the peace.

was Plunket to do this? Just. Jones. Had you any discourse with Murfey. As far as I understood. him, yea or no?

Just. Jones. And you understood it by himMurfey. That he should find so many Ca- self? tholies in Ireland, if the duke of York and the Murfey. I received letters from the vicarduke of Monmouth fell out.

general to get so much money collected, and Just. Jones. Why, it plainly appears what as soon as I got the letters to my hands, I sent you drove at at first, to put off this trial if you them to a privy counsellor. could.

L. C. J. Do you not know that he was enL. C. J. The papists in England have been gaged to assist the French army? at work with you.

Mursey. I do not know that by him, but by Serj. Jefferies. I perceived this gentleman others. was very busy, looking upon his hat, I desire Just. Dolben. Did you ever discourse with he may be searched, if he have no paper about him about it?

Murfcy. I did discourse with him about se, Att. Gen. Mr. Solicitor and myself heard the veral matters. evidence he gave to the grand-jury:

Just. Dolben. About the French army ? Then he went out of the court, and would

Murfey. Yes.

L. C. J. Do you know that he did endeayour carse be persuaded to come back again.

to bring them into Ireland ?



Murfey. I had a correspondence in France Mac legh. In 1674 and 1675. at the same time

Plunket. What is the reason you kept it so L. C. J. With whom ?

secret all this while ? Murfey. With one Mac Carty.

Mac Legh. In the year 1677, I did disL. C. ). And do you know that he had cor- cover it to one Mr. O'Neal, whom I sent to respondence in France ?

Dublin to discover this plot. I was in France Murfey. Yes, I know that.

myself, my lord Just. Dolben. With whom had Plunket cor- Plunket. How many years is it since you respondence in France ?

returned from France ? Murfey. He had correspondence with Dr. Muc Legh. In May in the year 1678. Cray and others in France, as I understood by Plunket. Why did you not speak all this others.

while till now ? Just. Dolben. Was the end of that corres- Mac Legh. I did send one Mr. Henry pondence to bring men from France into Ire- O'Neal to Dublin, for I durst not go, lest I land ?

should have been suspended and excommuni. Murfey. Yes, so far as I understand. cated.

Just. Dolben. You understood the letters Att. Gen. This is the priest that Henry when you read them, did you not ?

O'Neal speaks of. Murfey. I know not how these people come L. C. J. Is not this a very good reason ? If to swear this business, whether they had not he had come to Dublin to discover, you would malice against him

have suspended him. Att. Gen. Well, sir, pray give you your Plunket. But, my lord, then he might have evidence, we will take care of the rest. shewn my suspension, and brought me into a

Just. Dolben. I reckon this man hath given præmunire, the best evidence that can be.

Serj. Jefferies. If you please, Doctor, let us L. C. J. Yes, it is evidence that the catholics who are for the king have done with him first. have been tampering with him.

I would ask you another question, sir, were you Serj. Jefferies. I desire he may be committed, at one vicar Brady's house ? my lord, because he hath fenced from the be- Mac Legh. Yes, I was. ginning (Which was done accordingly.) Att. Gen. Tell what was done there.

Att. Gen. Swear. John Mac Legh. (Which Mac Logh. There was bishop Tyrrel came was done.)

there with 40 horsemen well mounted and Sir F. Withens. Tell my lord and the jury armed, he came into the house about 10 in the what you know of any plot in Ireland to bring morning, and staid till about 11 at night, I was in the French.

very much among them, and was as willing to Mac Legh. I was a parish priest in Ireland, be of the plot as themselves. in the county of Monaghan, and Dr. Oliver Att. Gen. Tell what was done there. Plunket received several sums of money in Mac Legh. There bishop Tyrrel said, that Ireland, and especially in the diocese where 1 he had orders from doctor Oliver Plunket, and am. I raised some of it, and paid him 40s. at others to partake of the Plot to bring in the one time, and 30s. another time, in 1674 I paid French and subvert the government in Ireland, him 40s. in 1675, I paid him 50s. and it was and destroy the Protestant religion and the Proabout July, and it was for the better advance testants. ment of the French coming in.

Att. Gen. Was there an oath given ? Mr. Jones. Did he tell you that the money Mac Legh. Yes, they were all put to their was to be employed that way?

oaths, which they did take willingly to keep it Mac Legh. Yes, that the money was to be private during their lives time, and the reason kept for arms, and ammunition for the Ro- was they were to have their estates during their man catholics in Ireland.

lives time. L. C. J. Before you paid it, did you receive Serj. Jefferies. Now tell us when this was? any order from him?

Ati. Gen. My lord, Henry O'Neal, and Mac Legh. Yes, I received an order · sub Phelim O'Neal speak to the same purpose. pæna suspensionis,' and there was a public order Serj. Jefferies. Do you remember whether throughout Ireland, or we would not pay it; Henry O'Neal was there? Did be takethe cath nay, several would not pay it, and they were of Secrecy ? to be suspended.

Mac Legh. Yes. Plunket. Can you shew any of the orders Att. Gen. What do you know of any letunder my hand ?

ters from Plunket? Mac Legh. Yes, I can shew them, but only Mac Legk. In France I landed at Brest, they are afar off, I did not expect to bave them and going through Brittany, I met with bishop asked for.

Tyrrell and Dr. Cray, who was my lord Oliver Plunket. Have you no superiors of your Plunket's agent, and duke John of Great Briown?

tanny came into them; for he heard of these Mac Legh. Yes, but you being lord pri- two bishops being newly come out of Rome, mate, you could suspend bishops and inferior sent for them, and I being a priest of Tyrrell's clergy together.

diocese, I went along with them, and they were Plunket. When was this?

well accepted, and he shewed Dr. Oliver Planket's conditions with the king of France, which letters of recommendation, an old Pather, call. was this ; to get Dublin and Londonderry, ed one Thomas Crawley, and I, thought it not and all the sea-ports into their own hands, to prejudicial to open the seal ; and the contents levy war and destroy the protestant religion, were these, I translated them five years ago, and that they should have him to protect them and here are the contents following, if you during his life-time.

please, they may be read, I will do my best to L.C. J. Did you see those conditions ? read them in English, the original were in

Mac Legh. A copy of them I did, the go- Latin, and some phrases in Italian. And when vernor of Brittany did shew them to the I was surprised by Mr. Murfey the last year, bishop.

and taken suddenly, all my papers were taken Serj. Jefferies. What language were those away before I could return back again, by the conditions in ?

soldiers and the tories. I only kept a copy of Mac Legh. They were in Latin, sir. this letter I had in English as near as I could, Serj. Jefferies. Was Edmund Murfey put out and if I did not diminish any thing by the tranof the diocese?

slation, upon the oath I have taken, I have not Mac Legh. Not as I know of.

put any thing in it, but what the contents of the L. C. J. What do you know of his being letter were. primate ? Upon what conditions was he made L. C. J. Was that letter under his own primate ?

hand ? Mac Legh. He was made primate by the Moyer. My lord cannot deny that. election of the king of France. And upon his Plunket. Do you know my own handelection, he made those conditions with the king writing ? of France, to raise men to join with the French, Moyer. Does your lordship deny that I to destroy the Protestant religion.

know your hand ? Just. Jones. You know that man, Dr. Plun- Plunket. Pray sir, will you answer it ? ket?

Moyer. Yes, I do very well. Plunket. Yes, my lord.

Plunket. When did you leave Ireland ? Att. Gen. Will you ask hiin any questions? Moyer. I will tell you that, my lord, it is Plunket. None, but what I asked the others. some 14 or 15 years ago.

Just. Dulben. Then if that is all, he hath Serj. Jeff You were giving an account of given you a good answer to that already, be the letter," read it. was as forward then as the rest.

Moyer. Here is the contents, Illustrissime Att. Gen. Thep swear John Moyer. (Which Domine; it was directed to Seignior ---, who was done.

is now secretary of the college de propaganda Just. Jones. What do you know concerning fide. (So then he read his Paper.) any plot in Ireland, and Dr. Plunket's being Sol. Gen. You say, you translated that out

of a Letter under the prisoner's own hand ? Moyer. I knew him first, my lord, to be Moyer. Yes, I translated it immediately, and made primate of Ireland, engaging that he to prove it, I have statutes which his lordship should propagate the Romish faith in Ireland, made in the general national council, which and to restore it to the catholic government; are under your own hand, my lord. and I know the time by relation, that I came to Sol. Gen. When did you make this transRome within two months after his being made lation ? primate of Ireland, upon the same conditions Moyer. Five years ago. that have been related to you ; and I was Sol. Gen. Where did


make it ? brought into the convent of Sf. Francis in Rome Aloyer. I made it out of the original in by one Father and this Father was very Ireland. intimate with Carlinal Spinola, and when he Sol. Gen. Where is the original ? used to go abroad, he used to carry me along Moyer. When I was taken by Mr. Murfey with him as a companion, and there I found se- and Mr. Hethrington the last year, the soldiers veral of the Romish cardinals say, that the and tories came and took them away, with kingdom of Ireland should come under the ca- other


I had of the same business. tholic government by the way and means of L. C. J. Was the paper you translated from, the lord primate Plunket.

of his hand-writing? All. Gen. What do you know of yourself? Moyer. No, my lord, the paper I took this

Moyer. As I was then from Rome, I hap- out of, was a copy of the original. pened to come into a Convent of the order of L. C. J. Was the original of his handSt. Francis, and there came out of Ireland a writing ? Foung gentleman of the family of the O'Neals Moyer. Yes, it was. who hath been my lord Primate's page.

L. C. J. When did you take it? Plunket. I never had a page.

Moyer. In Caprennica, when I met with my Moyer. You termed him so, my lord, in Ire- lord's page. land, and as I came, this young man had a L. C. ). What made you take a copy of it? packet of letters with him, as though they Mvyer. It was in Latin and Italian, and I were commendations to enter him into the col- translated it afterwards. lege de propaganda fide, directed to the secre- L. C. J. And the English father, you say, tary of that college. And thinking them to be made bold to open it?

Moyer. Yes, because he thought it was a because we have many colleges beyond sea, letter of recommendations; but the original of and so there is no country of Roman Catholics the statutes made at Clouds, į did take the but hath an agent in Rome, original, and gave a copy to the page.

L. C. J. You had better reserve yourself L. C. J. Have you the original here? till by-and-by, to answer that and the letter Moyer, Yes, my lord, under his own hand. together ; for this is but a small part of the Plunkel. That is another thing.

evidence. L. C. J. But we would know that other Att. Gen. About this letter you were speakthing.

ing of, pray, will you tell what fell out about it? Serj. Jefferies. My lord, I desire that he Moyer. I will tell you how it fell out after, would produce it, it is his own hand-writing ; wards. Then I came along into Marseilles in see whether his grace can deny it.

France, and there were two captains that had Moyer. The signing of it is his own hand- as much notice as I had in that letter, for they writing, I got the writing along with the letter, were discoursing, that they would advance and thinking to have a copy of the one, as well themselves in the French king's service, and as of the other; it was the Statutes I got, and hoped, that by the king of France's help to I never knew I had them till I was in Madrid, have the Roman Catholic faith set up in their in Spain.

own country; why, that discourse passed off, Then the Paper was shewn to the Prisoner.

for I was mightily afraid of any such thing,

because I was of another opinion; for perhaps Plunket. My lord, it is my hand.

I might think the Roman Catholic faith would Moyer. Indeed, my lord, it is your own Aourish as well as ever it did, and hoped so as hand.

well as any body else, but not by the sword. Serj. Jefferies. He owns it.

As I came to Madrid, there came one Hugh Moyer. And there is an order in those Sta- O'Donnell, son to -- O'Donnell, with lettutes, wherein Ireland was bound to send so ters of recommendation, and those letters were much money to Rome, upon such a design. to intitle the young man earl of Tyrone ; and Then the Witness read the title in Latin.

likewise that his majesty, the king of Spain


should help him for Ireland, according to the Just. Dolben. Look out that clause for the form of the letters he had. And then as I raising of the money.

came for Ireland, speedily after there came Moyer. My lord, it is that I look for. Cum letters of recommendation to me, that I should tot. Clero in Hibernia necessarium sit.' present myself to my Lord Primate, to hear

Just. Dolben. That is but negotia generally. confessions, and be heard preach. I came to Serj. Maynard. That was to solicit their his lordship at his own house the 9th of Deaffairs.

cember 1674, and there he kept me sereral Att. Gen. It is 5001, in the whole.

hours, and approved me; and the copy of the Plunket. Is it 5001. ?

approbation I have to shew. And after a long Mayer. It is in figures a 5 and two 00. dispute we went aside, and went to look Father

Plunket. My lord, this is counterfeit, it is Patrick, and there he shewed me such and put in by other ink.

such things. And after a long discourse I told Just. Dolben. Like enough so.

my Lord Primate, I saw your lordship's letL. C. J. Nothing more ordinary, you leave ter which you sent by young O'Neal in such a a blank for the sum, and then, may be, you place, and he shewed me the contents of it, and put it in with other ink.

said, Ay, my lord, it is a good intention and Just. Dolben. How much do you say was design, if it can be done without bloodshed: the money, Dr. Plunket?

then my lord mused a little, and he said, well Plunket. My lord, every agent that is kept father Francis (which is my name in religion, at Rome hath a maintenance, as all countries my Christian name was John) pray will you have their agents at Rome.

keep it secret ? Well, my lord said I, you 1 Just. Dolben. How much was it!

need not fear ; for said he, whatever I have Plunket. Jt was 50l. a year.

done herein was not for my own good, but for L. C. J. Look you, Mr. Plunket, consider the public good of the Catholics. "Well, said I, with yourself, 50 or 500 in this case is not five it is well. Then he does commend me into the farthings difference, but the money was to be parish of where this Mr. Murfey bere raised by your order.

was to put in a bull, that I had from my Lord Plunkei. Ay, but whether it was not raised Primate, which bull was brought here last to this effect. There is never a nation where year ; and there he protsered me high promo the Roman Catholic religion is professed, but tions, if I would further such things, and solicit hath an agent for their spiritual affairs at such gentlemen as I knew would be private Rome, and this was for the spiritual affairs of in such a business, such as were old commandthe clergy of Ireland.

ers among my friends and relations. Shortly Serj. Jefferies. And the letter was for spi- after this I saw Plunket and bishop Tyrrel, ritual affairs too, was it not?

and captain Con O'Neal, practising to bring Plunket. I desire nothing, that is a truth, soldiers ready for Ireland, as soon as they could every nation hath an agent, and that agent get opportunity. This captain Con 'O'Neal must be maintained ; and the reason is this, coming to the place where we kept our priory,

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