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Did you see Mrs. Clarke soon after the notice in the Gazette that the exchange was effected, and for what purpose did you see her? I saw her, I think, in the mouth of September, for the purpose of thanking her.

Upon that occasion did Mrs. Clarke desire you to be secret with respect to this transaction; and did she assign any, and what reason for that secrecy? She did intreat me to keep it a secret, lest it should come to the Duke of York's ears.

Have you seen Mrs. Clarke within the last month, and how did it happen that you saw her? She wrote to beg that I would come to her, about a month ago; to which letter I made no reply. She wrote a second letter, as far as my recollection serves me, about ten days ago. I went to her, and she asked me the name of the officer who had exchanged with my brother: I told her. She made a number of conplaints of her having been ill treated by the Duke of York; that he had deserted her and left her in debt, I think to the amount of 20007.; and that she was determined, unless she could bring him to terms, to expose him in the manner in which she is now endeavouring to do. I said that that was her affair, but that I trusted she would not introduce either me or my brother. She said, O good God no, by no means, it is not my intention, you can have nothing at all to do with it. That passed in the drawing-room; and I took my leave, and heard nothing of her since; and I was very much surprized to hear of my name being mentioned in the way in which it has. I was thunderstruck at its being done without any notice.

Had Colonel Brooke's name been mentioned to the Duke of York to exchange with your brother, previously to the application to Mrs. Clarke? I think I have already replied, that the application was made in the regular way. I do not know it; but by a reference to the office, the papers will speak for themselves. I cannot speak from my own knowledge to that.

You have stated, that your reason for applying to Mrs. Clarke was, that a delay existed in the exchange taking place; do you, of your own knowledge, know where those delays took place, in what office? In the Duke of York's office, I suppose.

Can you state in what department of the office? I fancy that Colonel Gordon was secretary at the time.

You have mentioned that you sent the bank notes in a cover by your servant; at what time of the day did you send those notes? I am pretty sure it was in the former part of the day, rather early in the morning.

Were they bank notes that were sent? That I cannot charge my memory with.

Was it one or two notes? Upon my word I cannot venture to say, but I rather think in two bank notes.

Can you say from whom you received the bank notes? Upon my word I cannot; it is a long while ago, nearly four years.

How long was this before your brother was gazetted? The sending was after he was gazetted.

How long before your brother was gazetted did you speak to Dr. Thynne? I should think the negotiation went on near a fortnight, or from a fortnight to three weeks, as far as my recollection serves me. Did you ever receive any note from Mrs. Clarke with the Gazette!" No, it was from Dr. Thynne I received the communication.

Did you receive any letter from Dr. Thynne? That I do not re collect.

From Mrs. Clarke to Dr. Thynne? No; I do not think that I saw any letter.

Did you ever receive any letter from Mrs. Clarke, except what you have mentioned in your former evidence? I have received several letters from her, subsequent to the transaction.

Respecting this transaction? No; I do not think I received any from her respecting this transaction.

Did you receive any answer to the note transmitting the bank notes? None.

Did your brother, to your knowledge, ever apply to the commanding officer of the 56th regiment, to recommend the exchange to the Commander in Chief? I do not know, I believe he did; I am pretty sure that he did.

Do you recollect about what time? Upon my word I do not.

Did you receive from Dr. Thynne the Gazette containing the account of the exchange? It now occurs to me that I went to the office for the Gazette myself, somewhere about Chancery-lane; I got it my. self from the Gazette office.

How long a time elapsed between the first application being made at the Commander-in-Chief's office, and the second application to Mrs. Clarke through Dr. Thynne? I think, as I said before, about from a fortnight to three weeks.

How long a time elapsed between the first applicatiou being made at the Commander in Chief's office, and the second application to Mrs. Clarke, through Dr. Thynne? Upon my word, I cannot say exactly.

About what time? It might have been ten days; but I cannot speak accurately.

You have stated, that you went to the Gazette office to fetch the Gazette; had you any reason to suppose that the exchange would be announced in that particular Gazette, or did you go upon every pubJication to fetch the Gazette, to see whether it was inserted? I think I went three times in the whole.

In point of fact, before this transaction took place, had you ever learned from Mrs. Clarke that she did apply to his Royal Highness the Commander in Chief to expedite this exchange? I cannot tell; I did not become acquainted with her till after the exchange was notified in the Gazette, about six weeks afterwards.

In the conversations you have since had with Mrs. Clarke, did you ever understand from her that she had, in fact, applied to the Commander in Chief to expedite the exchange? Of course, she took credit to herself for expediting the business.

You have no reason for presuming it, but that she took that credit; you do not know that she actually applied? I am not bound to draw inferences.

Did you ever learn from Mrs. Clarke, that she actually applied? She told me she had applied, certainly, when I saw her in September. To whom did she say she had applied? To the Duke of York, At the time she said she had applied to the Duke of York, were the Duke of York and she living upon terms? I do not know that of my own knowledge.

When this conversation took place, did Mrs. Clarke reside in Gloucester-place? Yes.

Was it after she said she had applied to the Duke of York, that she requested the transaction might be kept secret? Yes, it was after, certainly.

In point of fact, did you send the 2001. to Mrs. Clarke for any other reason than her interference in expediting the exchange? I certainly sent it her to do all in her power to accelerate the exchange.

Did not Dr. Thynne transmit to you a Gazette, after the exchange had taken place between your brother and Colonel Brooke? I do not know but he might.

Was that accompained with any note from Mrs. Clarke to Dr. Thynne? I do not remember that it was.

Was it after you had sent the 2004. to Mrs. Clarke, that Mrs. Clarke expressed her desire that it should be kept secret? Certainly.

Was the fact which Mrs. Clarke desired should be kept secret from the Duke of York, the receipt of the 2001. which you sent her? Yes. Did she expressly desire you to conceal from the Duke of York your having paid her 2001.; did she use those words, or, as nearly as you can recollect, what words did she use? She requested that the whole business might be kept a secret.

Did she express herself particularly, during the conversation, as to the money, or was it one general conversation as to the transaction itself? As to the transaction itself.

Was that wish of Mrs. Clarke, that the matter might be kept secret, at the last interview you had with her about ten days ago? No; it was in the month of September, 1805, subsequent to the transaction in question.

How long, previously to that interview, had the money been transmitted? It was the day after the transaction was notified in the Gazette; I believe the next morning.

Did Mrs. Clarke, in expressing a wish that the transaction might be kept secret, express a wish that the Duke of York might not know that you had any thing to do with it? Certainly.

Was not her wish expressed, that it might be kept a secret from the public? From him, the Duke of York.

Repeat, as nearly as possible, the conversation that passed upon that subject. Upon my word, I do not see how I can exactly; it is a long while ago. It is impossible that I should repeat her words.

What expression did Mrs. Clarke use, that you now recollect, which enables you to state that it was not from the public, but from the Duke of York himself, that she wished it to be kept secret? She begged it might be kept a secret from the Duke of York. I do not know how to shape my answer in any other way; it is impossible to recollect every word that passed four years ago.

Did she add to that request, or did she join with that request, that your having any thing to do with it might be kept from the Duke of York? She was anxious that the whole transaction might be kept from him.

Did she say, or give you to understand directly, that the Duke of York would object to your being a party in the transaction, more, probably, than to any other person? No.

Do you know that this exchange took place in consequence of your

application to Mrs. Clarke? I cannot say that I know it; it is impossible that I can say that, for the application had been in the War-office some time previous to the transaction with Mrs. Clarke; I should think it must have been in the office from ten days to a fortnight, but I cannot speak exactly; but that is a fact very easily got at by reference to the War-office; the correspondence is to be found, no doubt.

Did you ever ask Mrs. Clarke whether she applied to his Royal Highness the Duke of York to expedite the exchange? It does not occur to my mind that I asked her that question.

Did she ever say that she had applied to the Duke of York? I understood that she had applied to the Duke, most certainly.

Did Mrs. Clarke appear more anxious that the transaction might be kept a secret from the Duke of York than from the public? The public was never mentioned in the business.

Was the Gazette, which was transmitted to you from Dr. Thynne, transmitted in a blank cover, or with any letter from the Doctor? I do not remember.

When Mrs. Clarke told you, that, unless the Duke of York made terms, she would expose him; did she state what measures she was taking to expose the Duke of York? No.

Do you recollect the expressious that she made use of? She stated that she had been ill-treated by him, and deserted by him, and left in debt; and that if he did not pay those debts (I understood her so, however,) she certainly would expose him.

Do you recollect whether you, or Dr. Thynne, first mentioned the name of Mrs. Clarke, in the conversation you had together? I think it was Dr. Thynne; I became acquainted with her through him.

Was the interview you had in September, 1805, the first personal interview you had with Mrs Clarke? Yes; but I will not be positive as to its being in September; it might have been the latter end of August; it was the latter end of the year.

That was the first interview you had with her? Yes, it was.

Where did Mrs. Clarke reside when you sent the 200l. to her? I have already stated, in Gloucester-place.

Had you any particular reason for sending the money early in the morning? No, no particular reason; I should have been sorry to have disturbed the family.

[The witness was directed to withdraw. A member present observing that it would be proper to examine the commanding officer of the 56th regiment; general the honourable Chappel Norton said;-"I cannot speak to the time; but Colonel Knight certainly applied to me, and explained himself very fully and very satisfactorily to me, or I should not have recommended the exchange, which I did."

Mrs. MARY ANN CLARKE.

Did you reside in Gloucester-place, in a house of the Duke of York's, in July, 1805? Yes, I did.

Did you live under his protection? Yes, I did.

Do you recollect Dr. Thynne about that period attending you in his professional lue? He attended me, I believe, about that time. Do you recollect that an application was made to you by Dr.

Thynne, to effect an exchange between Lieutenant-colonel Knight and Lieutenant-colonel Brooke? Yes, I do.

Do

you recollect that he urged great dispatch? Yes.

Did he hold out any expectation of a pecuniary compliment provided you effected the exchange? Certainly he did.

Do you recollect his mentioning any particular sum? Yes, I think he did say something about a couple of hundred pounds.

Do you recollect that Dr. Thynne told you, that Colonel Knight had been long endeavouring to get the exchange? Yes, I do.

Did you afterwards speak to the Commander-in-Chief upon the subject? Yes, I did.

How did you mention the business to him? I told him of it, and I gave him the slip of paper that Dr. Thynne gave me, with their names, just after dinner.

Did you at the same time state to the Commander-in-Chief, that you were to have any pecuniary advantage, provided the exchange took place? His Royal Highness asked me, if I knew the parties, and 4 said I did not, that they would make me a compliment.

Did you state the amount of the compliment you were to have? I am not certain that I did.

Are you certain that you mentioned to the Commander-in-Chief, that you were to have any pecuniary compliment? I told his Royal Highness, that I did not know the men at all, and certainly they would make me some sort of compliment; I did not know them then."

When the exchange appeared in the Gazette, do you recollect sending it to Dr. Thynne? Yes, I do.

Do you recollect sending any note with that Gazette? Yes.

Do you recollect afterwards receiving any pecuniary consideration! Yes, I do.

How much? A 2007, bank note was sent me.

How was that 2001. bank note sent you? It was sent me inclosed in a note, with Dr. Thynne's compliments.

Do you mean to say, that the person who brought it, brought compliments, or that there were any written compliments? I think it was written in the note.

After receiving the 2001. do you recollect at any time making that circumstance known to the Commander-in-Chicf? Yes, I do. When did you mention it to him? The same day.

What passed upon the subject; I only merely said, that they had kept their promise.

Did the Commander-in-Chief know from you the amount of the money you had received? He knew the amount, because I shewed him the note; and I think that I got one of his servants to get it exchangeđ for me through his Royal Highness.

Where were you immediately before you came to the bar of this house? In some room about this place.

Did you see any, and what, people there whom you knew? I saw Captain Thomson there; Mrs. Metcalfe, the wife of Dr. Metcalfe; Miss Clifford, the lady who was with me; Mr. Wardle came in for minute; Dr. Thynne and his son.

Did any, and what, conversation pass between you and Mr. Wardle None.

Not a word? He asked me how I did, and spoke to a lady there.

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