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member. I did not fully understand the words Court.-What do you mean by a good deal which he used at the time.
of confusion ?-From the pressure of the Was there any thing about Belshazzar ?-people that were in the lobby, or entrance to The prince was compared with Belshazzar. the seats, By the panel in his preaching ?-Yes.
John Waddell cross-examined by Mr. Jeffrey. What point of resemblance did he find between them?-Belshazzar had polluted the Are you any relation to James Waddell ?vessels of the sanctuary or temple of Jerusa- Brother. lem, in drinking out of the vessels, he and his Was he with you upon these occasions ?-No. lords, and wives, and coneubines, to the ho Do you refer in the answer which you have nour of idols.
given above to the first or second night you How did he compare the regent to him ? heard Douglas ?—The first. Because he also had rioted. Did he say any thing about any other king? the
time the service began – It was begun be
Court.-Were you constantly present from --About the king of France.
The late, or the present king of France ?– fore I went in. Louis the sixteenth.
How long might you be there?--About an What of him?--As far as I can recollect, or
hour and a balf, or twenty minutes. could understand, he said that he was advised
Will you be so good as tell us if you recollect by his own Court, and the other Courts of Eu. any other passage either of his prayers or
sermon but this that you mentioned ?- Nothing rope, against his own people.
that struck me with any kind of force. Court.-What do you say
y?—That hy follow How did he treat of this fifth chapter of ing the advice of his counsellors, he lost his | Daniel ?—That is what I cannot exactly relife, and is either in hell or purgatory.
capitulate. Mr. Drummond.-Did he connect such re
Do you remember anything that preceded or flections with our king or prince regent ?
that followed these remarkable expressions that Our prince, he said, like
the king of France, have been given us ?—Relative to the prince would not listen to the wishes of his people.
regent? What wishes had the prince not listened to ?
Yes ?-I did not hear the expressions pre
vious to that. -The voice of his people, or cries of poor petitioners who had petitioned him.
Can you tell us what made him use such
strong expressions ?-I thought I heard him Court.–Do you mean to say upon oath, that utter them, but I did not hear what he said though a comparison was made between the previously. prince and Belshazzar, you cannot state the
What followed ?-I do not recollect indeed. points of comparison ?- I cannot come upon
Are we to understand that you cannot tell them at present.
any one thing he said but what you have men
tioned ?-Nothing else that he said that first John Waddell sworn.—Examined by night. Mr. Maconochie.
You say you went again ?- That night fortDo you know the prisoner Douglas? I have night. seen the gentleman several times.
Do you recollect anything he said that night Did you go to hear him preach 1-Yes.
fortnight?-Yes, I recollect he used the exWhen ?-Ten or twelve weeks ago.
pressions, speaking of the battle of Waterloo, End of March?—End of March, or begin- consider it an honour, but for his part be would
that some of those connected with it might ning of April. Did you go often ?--Three evenings.
rather consider it as a disgrace. Upon what subject or text did he preach.
Nothing else, sir?-Nothing. The fifth chapter of Daniel.
How did he treat the chapter of Daniel that All the three evenings upon the same chap- what I have mentioned. I heard him very in
night?-I do not recollect anything more than ter ?—The two first upon the same chapter, and upon the same text. I do not recollect
distinctly. particularly as to the third.
Was that from the noise, or from his mode Did he say anything about the king, or the of speaking ? - From the noise, and his mode of prince regent upon these occasions I heard speaking, and from the pressure of the conhim speak of the prince regent. There is an
gregation. impression on my mind, that he said the
When you heard these remarkable exprince regent is as fit for a gibbet as a
pressions you have spoken to, did you menthrone.
tion them to any one at the time?--Not at
the time. Jury.–Did he say these words, or do you Not that night to anybody ?—To none that I think he meant them? I thought he said so at recollect of. the time: but there was a good deal of confu When did you mention it? I could not sion, and he spoke very hurriedly,
exactly say. _I heard such things mentioned Your impression is, that he said them !-I by others. There was just a general kind of think he did.
speaking about him.
Whether did you, or when did you, mention progress of infidelity; and he prayed that the expressions to anybody else ? -I believe I it might not be allowed to burst: That have mentioned them : but I do not remember the declarant prayed for the prince-regent when, or where, or to whom.
and that he might profit by the afflictions
of his father; but he does not recollect of The following Declarations of the panel having said, that notwithstanding of what were then read :
the prince had seen of his father for these At Glasgow March, 15th, 1817.
seven years past he had not amended his
ways : That in this discourse he did not “In presence of Robert Hamilton, Esq., say that seats were sold in the House of advocate Sheriff-depute of Lanarkshire, Commons as merchandize, or that there compeared Niel Douglas, Universalist was a great deal of corruption in that preacher, in Glasgow; who being examined, house, or that several members of it were declares, That for the last eleven years he thieves and plunderers, and divided the has been a preacherin Glasgow, and during spoil of their rich neighbours among them; that period has had Sabbath evening lectures but he recollects thanking God that there and sermons, which, for about the last five were still some members in our senate years, he has delivered in the Andersonian who dignified their own character in Institution Class-room, and his audience maintaining the rights of the people: has been, particularly for the last seven or That he took occasion to express his eight months, very numerous and respec disapproval of the suspension of the table: That his precentor's name is Ilabeas Corpus act, as a measure by which Nickolson, who is employed in the ware the accused were deprived of the means house of Mr. Robertson, a quaker, a of their own vindication ; but he does not manufacturer, in Commercial-buildings, recolleet of saying that the country had Candleriggs : That M‘Dowal Pate used been condemned without witnesses, judge occasionally to precent, and he did so or jury; and the declarant is still of lately, and he is not certain but he did so opinion that parliament never acted so last Sabbath : That be keeps no copy of imprudently as passing such an act on an his sermons or lectures, but he premedi occasion when the minds of the people tates, and, by the assistance of notes, en were so aggravated : That the declarant deavours to adhere as close as possible; did identity Britain with the mystical and he is not conscious of having made Babylon mentioned in the 18th chapter any improper deviation from the object of of the Revelations; and he is not singular his text: That for the last two years the in this, as many commentators think with declarant in his evening sermons has him, that Britain, not Rome, which last commented or preached from the book of was not a maritime nation, is meant by Daniel; and last Sabbath evening his text the Babylon there mentioned : That when was in the latter part of the 5th chapter speaking of the Habeas Corpus act being of the book of Daniel : That before he suspended, be observed, that bad as the commenced the service, David Young, Jews were, they did not condemn our one of his deacons, informed him that Saviour without a form of trial; but he three spies were supposed to be in the does not recollect of saying anything by room: 'That the declarant accordingly way of contrast as to the present execution mentioned this to the audience, and never of the law since the passing of this act : theless proceeded with the discourse : That in this discourse he did not condemn That the declarant had no notes of that the expedition to Holland: That he does discourse, or of any other since his last not consider that the battle of Waterloo illness : That James M'Ewan used to sit was a matter of rejoicing, but on the conin the declarant's meeting-house, but the trary, and he believes he did say so. declarant never heard from him or any Denies that he spoke anything of the other, of any secret association being profligacy of our rulers, of the unjust adformed, or means used for procuring a ministration of the laws, of a laxness in reform in parliament: That at different the administration, or that he called the times the declarant has published some members of the House of Commons thieves little tracts, some of which' treat of the or plunderers. politics and state and condition of the
(Signed) “ Niel DOUGLAS. country; and, in his evening sermons, he,
“ R. Hamilton." as circumstances suggest, has occasionally
The above examination adjourned till taken opportunity to animadvert upon
Monday next the 17th current, at eleven these topics, but he never did so with any invidious intention : That in some of his
o'clock forenoon, when Mr. Douglas is late discourses he spoke of a cloud which
required to attend. hung over this country, and would soon At Glasgow, the 17th March, 1817. burst; by which he meant nothing more
In presence of Robert Hamilton, esq. than the misery and wretched state of the advocate, Sheriff-depute of Lanarkshire,
community from want, as also the great compeared Niel Douglas, and the foreVOL. XXXIII.
going declaration being read over to him, "recent escape of his royal highness, as the he begs leave to make the following cor declarant thinks with great impropriety, rections on it: That he is sixty-seven but he never made this declaration in years of age, and has been a preacher public: That the declarant has published twelve years in Glasgow; for the eight different little tracts, and, among others, Jast of these the congregation has been as one intituled, “Causes of our Public sembled in the Andersonian Institution Calamity;' another, intituled, room: That instead of David Young Baptist;' and a third, intituled, “A saying that the persons were spies, he Word in Season,' each of which the desaid there were three persons suspected to clarant got printed, and a few of each of be spies; and with these corrections he the copies have been at different times adheres to his former declaration. De sold by the door-keeper of the meetingclares, That in reading a passage in the house after sermons; and to the said pro27th chapter of Ezekiel, where it mentions ductions there is now affixed a sealed that the rowers have brought us into label, which is doqueted and subscribed deep waters,' the declarant expressed a by the declarant, sheriff-examinator, and wish and prayer that our rulers might not clerk, as relative hereto: That of these be allowed to row the vessel of state into publications there were about five hundeep waters, and left to perish between dred printed, and there might be forty the straits; and if so, he prayed that a copies at the least sold of them, but of greater than man might be a pilot to a safe the precise number he cannot be certain : 'haven. On further recollection he did not Thai the name of the door-keeper, to on this occasion mention the rulers of the whom the declarant has given his tracts nation : That in his discourse he animad. to be sold, is Samuel Gourlie, a weaver verted on the impropriety of this nation's in the Westergate of Glasgow. Declares, conduct in regard to the late wars, and in That he has frequently inculcated on his the support which they had thereby given hearers, and declared in public, that no to the Bourbon family, and to idolatry : man who had the fear of God would be That he never recollects of saying that the concerned in the pulling down of one gopresent period was the millennium of cor vernment and setting up another, and ruption. And being interrogated, What that those who did so were destitute reason and view he has in animadverting of the fear of God; and that so far so often on political matters and the from approving any violent measures to measures of government in his sermons oppose our rulers, or compel the legisand comments on Scripture, and par lature to adopt any popular measure, he ticularly when the same are addressed is convinced in his conscience that Chris. to the lower orders of the people, and at tianity condemns all wars whatever. And a period when, he confesses, they are at being interrogated, If he was never afraid present suffering from want? declares, that the introduction of these political That he does not comment often upon the subjects into his sermons, and especially said subjects : but when in his discourses his avowed condemnation of the measures they come upon him, he cannot restrain of government and of the legislature, expressing the spirit of God. And being would create a spirit of discontent amongst interrogated, How he expects to remedy the people, and his hearers in particular ? the abuses he complains of by harangues declares, That in the course of his lectures to his hearers, instead of addressing and upon Daniel, he was naturally led to make admonishing those persons with whose these remarks; but he always cautioned actions he is' displeased ? declares, That his hearers against every thing that might when expounding the Scripture, he has tend to disturb the peace and good order felt it his duty to point out to the people of society. In witness, &c. those measures of the government of his “ DUNCAN CLARK, witness. country which he has seen, for this some “ JOHN LESLIE, witness. time back, to be drawing down the ven
(Signed) “ NIEL DOUGLAS. geance of heaven upon this country, which
“ R. HAMILTON." measures he has observed for some years to have been followed by our government,
“ At Glasgow, 18th March, 1817. and the suspension of the Habeas Corpus act “In presence of Robert Hamilton, is a crowning one, and as such he has held Esq. advocate, Sheriff-depute of Lanarkit. And the following he begs may be shire, and in the petition and complaint taken down as part of his declaration, and presented, &c. compeared Niel Douglas, that it may reach the ears of the rulers of present prisoner in the tolbooth of Glasthis nation : That his royal highness bas gow; who being examined, and his more to apprehend from the measures of declaration emitted on the 15th and 17th his official servants than from the madness days of March instant, being read over of his people; wbich expression, as to the to him, declares and adheres thereto; and madness of the people, is used in the farther declares, That his religious creed prayers of the Church of England as to the differs from that of the church of Scotland
only in this, of his believing in the uni- , about Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar ?— Yes. versal restoration of mankind, and he You remember that ?-Yes. acknowledges no head as supreme in the Do you remember his making any comchurch except Christ. And being inter-parison between the condition of our unforrogated, if it is customary with ministers tunate sovereign king George, and that into of his persuasion of secession, to mingle which Nebuchadnezzar fell? Yes, I remember their discourses with political observations an imperfect parallel which he drew.
measures adopted by In wh respect did he make the parallel government, when these last happen to between them?-As to the duration of their be disapproved of by the preacher? de- derangement. clares, That he feels it to be his duty, as Did he begin suddenly upon that subject, a preacher in the sight of God, as a sub- or had he gone regularly through Daniel ? ject and servant of the Prince of Peace, He had been going regularly through Daniel. to testify in his doctrine against whatever Do you remember hearing him say any offends God, violates his law, infringes the thing about the cause of this infliction of Proessential right of his subjects, and is vidence on our sovereign ?—No, he specified prejudicial to the best interests of mankind, and believes that to be the duty of Did he say that he was smitten by divine every professed minister of Christ. And vengeance on account of his infidelity or sins ? being shewn a sheet on which are written - Never. certain heads of discourse, which begins You are sure of that?-I am certain of it. with "Jesus said,' declares, That the Did he mention anything of his recovery ? same contains his speech delivered at a Yes, he prayed and fervently wished the king meeting at Anderston, held for the pur- might be again restored to his throne; and if pose of having it resolved whether ihey not to his throne on earth, to a throne in should petition for reform, and it was heaven. copied by a young lad, an apprentice to In the course of his lecture, while led to a writer in town, with the exception of notice the king's unfortunate malady, did he the lower part of the fourth page, which utter any expression of reprobation or blame is written by himself: That it was in towards the king ?-No. tended his speech should be published in Did he speak of him with respect ?-Yos, the newspapers, but it was never done, always with respect. and the said paper is doqueted and sub Was he in the habit of praying for his scribed by the declarant, and sheriff- majesty ?-Yes, generally; he never missed a examinator, and clerk, as relative hereto. day in my recollection without praying for the And being shewn a hand-bill, which is now king. doqueted and signed, as relative to this Was there any thing in these prayers that declaration, and which announces the implied blame upon the king ?-No. publication of the Baptist, &c. declares, To what effeci did he pray?-I do not reThat he got five hundred of these pub- collect the exact words. lished, and he got one of them pasted You have attended the established church upon the door of his meeting-house, but sometimes ?—Yes. there never was any other of them used ; You have heard them pray there for the and if the Court require it, he will not king ?-Yes. make use of them till better times, as he To the same general effect ?- I. think Mr. has no wish, however innocently, to give Douglas was more particular. cause of offence. In witness, &c.
In what respect ?--He prayed more fervently “GEORGE Duncan, witness.
for him than those I had heard. “JAMES THomson, witness.
Do you remember, on these occasions, (Signed) “ NIEL DOUGLAS. while going on with his scriptural history, his “ R. Hamilton." saying any thing of the prince regent?-No, I
do not recollect.
Did you ever hear him say the prince regent Allan Cameron sworn.“ -Examined by
was a worshipper of Bacchus ?-I never did. Mr. Jetfrey.
Can you take it upon you to swear, whether Do you know Mr. Douglas at the bar he ever said the prince regent was a poor there? Yes.
infatuated, bewitched, or wretched prince?Are you a hearer of his ?-Yes, Sir.
I could answer upon oath he never did. A regular attender at his place of worship? Did you pay particular attention to the
I have attended his preaching about eighteen political expression of Mr. Douglas's sermons months.
about the time I have mentioned ?-Yes. Do you remember whether you attended his Had you any particular cause for this ?lectures or preachings on the Sunday-evenings Upon the night of the 9th of March I paid in the begining of March last ?-Yes.
particular attention to what he said. I was Every Sunday-evening during that time ?- informed there were spies present, and I Yes, I believe I did.
paid attention lest he should utter any thing Do you remember his lecture from Daniel that might be charged against him.
EVIDEXCE FOR THE PANEL.
Did you hear him upon any occasion about Do you know Mr. Douglas there !-Yes, I that time say any thing about the Houses of know him. parliament, especially the House of Commons ? You know he preaches the gospel ?—Yes. No, Sir.
You were accustomed to attend him ?--For Did you ever hear him say the House of about thirteen months. Commons was corrupt or unjust ?-No, I never The last thirteen months ?-Yes, sir. did.
Constantly –Yes. Did you ever hear him say the members of You recollect doing so during his ordinary that House were thieves and robbers ?-No, I discourses, last February and March?--Yes. never did.
Do you recollect his lecturing or preaching Have you heard him about that time, or at from Daniel ?-Yes. any other time, make remarks about the ad About Nebuchadnezzar and Belshazzar ? ministration of the law in this country --No, Yes. he always spoke with high respect of the Did he lecture upon these just when he law.
came to them in bis course of lecturing, or did Did you ever hear what he said on the he go out of his course to get at them !--He administration of the law ?-He bestowed as took them as they came. great encomiums upon the administration of Do you reinember, whether when talking the law as language can express, or ingenuity of Nebuchadnezzar on that occasion, he made invent.
any comparison between him and our king ?Frequently, Sir?--Always.
Yes, with respect to the length of their sufferYou say he did this generally; you were ings. going on to mention an instance !---He said Merely, or principally upon that ?-Princiafter his son's trial, that he was happy he was pally upon the length of their sufferings. a native of a country where the law was im Do you remember his assigning any reason partially administered.
why Providence afflicted our sovereign ?--He This was after his son's conviction ? -Yes. said, that for the sins of the nation, the head
Do you know what he had been tried for ? was afflicted. Swindling. He said it was his high satisfac Did you understand he said or not, that his tion to be a native of a country where the law majesty was afflicted in this way for his own is so impartially administered.
sins ? I never heard him mention that. Did he say this from the pulpit ?-Yes. Did he mention the fact of Nebuchadnezzar
In express reference to his son's trial and having been restored to his throne and reason? conviction ?-Yes.
-Yes. He mentioned them ?-Yes, he did.
Did he express any wish that such a result Are you sure this was said seriously, and should happen to George the third ?-le that there was no irony in what was said ?- prayed for ii frequently. It was said quite seriously.
Was he in the practice in his discourses of Are you acquainted with Mr. Douglas in speaking respectfully of the king ?- Remarkprivate life ?-Yes.
ably so. From what you have heard him say
uniform Was he accustomed to pray with apparent ly in the pulpit, and on other occasions, what sincerity and earnestness for the king :-With were his habitual expressions about the great sincerity. soverign and the prince regent ?-He always Do you know him in private ?--I never was spoke with great respect of them.
at his house more than three times altogether. Was he an advocate for a reform in parlia Was he in the habit of recommending to ment?-Yes, for a constitutional reform. his audience to love the king as he seemed to
Did he ever mention publicly or otherwise, do ?–He was in the babit of impressing that his sentiments as to the means of pursuing upon our minds; he ordered us to pray for this object ?-Yes, by petition.
him. Did he express his sentiments about the use Did you ever hear him mention the House of violence or force of any kind ?-Yes, he of Commons ?-Yes, I have heard him mention deprecated it very much.
the House of Commons. Did he say any thing of the riots - Yes, Did you ever hear him say the members when riots were in the Calton, he desired his were thieves and robbers ? - No. hearers not to give any countenance to them. Did you ever hear him use language of that
Did he do this earnestly, Sir ?-Yes. tendency ?-No, never. Upon these occasions, during February or Did you ever hear him make use of the exMarch, can you take it upon you to swear, pression, thieves and robbers, to any descripwhether in the pulpit he ever said that the tion of men at all?—I believe he did when prince regent was as fit for a gibbet as a speaking of patronage, of those who did not ihrone ?-He never did ; I can answer it upon come in at the door; he said that those who oath.
do not come in at the door, come in some William Warrell sworn.-Examined by
And he applied this?-Not to the ministers Mr. Cockburn.
of state, but to the ministers of the gospel. : Are you a weaver ?-Yes.
Did you ever hear him talk of the mode in