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can produce is, to confirm me. in 4 - resolution of doing, in the next Session, that which the situation of the Church and the People both require. I have the utmost veneration, love, and respect for the Church, which I am determined to prove, not by words only, but by acts. I have heard, indeed, very plausible professions of regard to the Church; but while they remain mere words, unaccompanied by deeds, I shall pay little regard to them. I am determined to prove my affection to the Church by my actions, by securing her Ministers in an honorable, affluent independence, and by removing every cause of dispute that could endanger their persons or properties.
66 I could have wished that Government had not taken any part in the business. I cannot see what an English Cabinet, or an Irish Secretary, has to do with it. The gentlemen of the country know best their own situation; it must therefore be left to them. On the Riot-bill, the House had resolved themselves into a committee on that part of the Lord Lieutenant's speech which respected the disturbances; they did not, however, ex. amine at all whether there were any disturbances, but they adopted a measure more adapted to an adult sedition than to the suppression of a flying peasantry. However, as Ministers were respon
sible for the quiet of the country, the measure was agreed to; but having done so, it certainly is now necessary to enquire into the distresses of the people to enquire into their grievances after they had become coerced into obedience-after it has been declared, by some of the first officers of the State, and allowed by every one, that they were bowed down with misery, and ground to powder with oppression ;-after we had passed & law to shoot, and to hang, and to whip, and to banish, and to imprison them, could it be thought too soon to enquire into their grievances? It might, indeed, be too late, but the dignity of Parliament would be injured. And how has the right honorable gentleman maintained that dig. nity? By sealing up the lips of the majority, and pronouncing his veto against compassion. I should have wished he had not rose, or that the imperial veto had not sealed up the springs of humanity. .
6 It has been said that the exoneration of potatoes from tithe would be of no advantage to the poor. Where have gentlemen learned this doctrine ? Certainly not in the report of Lord Carbampton. Or will they say, that taking sixteen shillings an acre off potatoes, is no benefit to the miserable man who depends on them as bis only food ?
.: It has been admitted that some, tithes are illegal, such as those on turf, and the poor man is advised to institute a lawsuit for relief... Are gentlemen serious when they give this advice ? or will they point out, how the man who earns five pence a day is to cope with the wealthy Tithe. farmer who oppresses him? ..
" It has been said we should not pay any regard to people in a state of resistance that it would be derogatory to the dignity of Parliament, and that they should apply in proper. form. I laugh at this hoity toity kind of language ; there can never be a time when it is improper for the Legislature to do justice." .. . ir..
The question was then put for going into the order of the day, (to supersede Mr. Grattan's. motion) and it was carried without a division. Wine
On the 29th January, 1788, Mr. Grattan "re. called to the memory of the House, the notice, which last Session he bad given, of his intention," in the course of the present, to lay before the House a plan for the commutation of Tithes, and better maintenance of the Clergy.--He noto gave notice, that it was his determination, as soon as the public business relative to the accounts apd
supply should be dispatched, to enter immediately upon the subject of Tithes; and he did not despair of being able to offer to the House a plan perhaps not altogether perfect, but such as the wisdom of Parliament might easily mature into such a system as would give the clergy à more comfortable and more honourable support than they at present possess, without proving in any degree burdensome to the farmer, or cultivator of land.-Mr. Grattan saw no difficulty in uniting the interests of the clergyman and farmer, and putting an end for ever to those disseptions, so injurious to both ; at present he would not go farther into the subject, because he conceived it could not be investigated, on broad and extensive ground, till after the public business had been gone through. .
On the 14th July, 1788, Mr. Grattan ad. dressed the House on the great and interesting question of Tithes.-Mr. Beresford had intended to bring forward a question of considerable importance, but conscious that Mr. Grattan's no. tice of bis motion, on the subject of Tithes, for that day, had excited unusual expectation, be pestponed the consideration of his own motion to a future period.
Mr. GRATTAN began by observing, that it was not his intention to surprize the House at present, by introducing so important a subject as that of Tithes." I would prefer," said Mr. Grattan, “ submitting the grievances complained of by the peasantry, to a committee, who would examine if they really existed or not. That such a mode of proceeding would meet with the ap. probation of the House, I have no doubt,' as the committee, by considering the magical error ip its true form, would see the necessity of a commutation of Tithes-a commutation that, were I to propose in the first instance, without convincing the House that the peasantry were really distressed—might bring on an 'opposition that I would wish, if possible, to see avoided on the present momentous subject. It was a position in politics, as well as in physics, that for the purpose of removing the complaint, it was vecessary for the physician to know the nature of the disorder. For this purpose there are many respectable witnesses ready to attend, to prove their allegations, which I am convinced, would show the necessity of a reformation being made in the mode of provision for the olergy. -I there. fore move, « That a Committee be appointed to inquire, whether any just cause of discontent exists among the people of the province of