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point. But there are other peers in the Cabinet ; may have occasion to make a retrospection OF THE and we should have seen how they chose to vote. ACTS AND DEEDS OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE BEWheu Mr, Whitmore brought forward a motion FORMED PARLIAMENT:-a beggarly account it will in the House of Commons for a moderate fixed be! Meetings have been held in several of the grea duty on grain, which might check the tendency towns to adopt petitions, praying the King to dis. to such perpetual, and often violent fluctua miss the Ministry. We can join in the prayer oi tion, Lord Althorp thought the measure “inop that petition, so far as hoping he may portune," not bad, (for, he was, or bad been, “ Throw away the worser part of it, an enemy to the Corn Laws, but not to be

And live the better with the other half" complied with. Ministers, and their subservient

There is still some sound material in the Whig majority on which they may safely reckon in

Cabinet, which, with new additions, may be avail. cases like this, which affect only the landed inte.

able for good service. Honesty and boldness may rest, threw out the motion by a very large majo

yet retrieve opportunities that have been so madly rity. It was, of course, wasting the time of the thrown away. Where it is their evident interest House to make such motions, as Mr. Whitmore

to forgive, the people will not be implacable. might have had a good guess that it would be

C'pon the first symptoms of repentance shewn in negatived. Votes of this kind, whatever be their

sincere amendment, they will be ready to pass an fruit, are not running to waste,—they are sinking

act of oblivion and indemnity. On the disruption of deeply into the hearts of millions. They speak,

the Cabinet, and upon the separation of its good as Elliott of Sheffield says,

“ from his children's

from its evil component parts, the people now reat trenchers” to the poor man's reason and his feel

their final hopes—of the Tories they will none. The ings. The plan of West India Slave Emancipa

Radicals ! where are they as a leading and tion, propounded by Mr. Stanley, and brought

guiding party? They can, however, furnish the forward as the Government scheme, is disapproved

better half of the Whig party with a powerful and by Lord Howick, and has made Mr. Macaulay

most useful auxiliary force. tender his resignation. It is another happy fea

HOUSE OF LORDS. ture of the Whig Government, that it is constantly at sixes and sevens. Some Members, Hob Poor Laws for IRELAND.—Upon Monday the 6th housically, try to serve two masters; others, like instant, the Duke of Sussex presented a petition Stanley and Lord Palmerston, take high aristo from London, for establishing a system of Poor Laws cratic ground; and a third party Talleyrand with in Ireland. the country and their colleagues alike. One thing

The Duke of Hamilton strongly supported the is certain, more unpopular they cannot be. Being prayer of this petition. The expense of maintainnow sunk to the lowest ebb, they may come up

ing the Irish paupers was a heavy burden in Scotagain. The notoriously bad character of their

land. In the county of Lapark alone, he believed

that there were 40,000 destitute trish. He did not predecessors is much in their favour. They can

wish to wound the feelings of Irish noblemen, but not be more detested than the Tories. They have he must say that the Irish who emigrated were the even yielded a little where Tories would have re most destitute beings he had ever beheld. sisted. A motion made by Mr. D. W. Harvey for The Earl of Wicklow said, that the people were inquiry into the special reasons for which certain constantly excited by the writers for the periodical among the Lord Charleses and Lady Emmelines press ; who were always trumping up lamentable receive their pensions, while Timothy Higgins

accounts of the state of Ireland, and of daily and must, whether he is able or not, pay for having

nightly outrages. There never was any complaint

of the influx of Irish labourers in barvest-time, when shop windows, and Hodge Clodpole give double

the Eoglish farmers derived so much benefit from price for his loaf, only to benefit the landed re their labours. latives of Lord Charles and Lady Emmeline : The Earl of Haddington concurred with the Duke this motion the Tories never would have yielded, of Hamilton in his remarks respecting the injury and it has boen wrung, from Lord Althorp. inflicted on Scotland, by the influx of Irish paupers The latest rumours are of a speedy prorogation, Lord Ellenborough said, the frisb might lower during which the Whigs may gain strength from

the price of labour, but they worked like orber peoa coalition with the Conservatives. In this case,

ple, and were as fully entitled to relief as any Scotch

man born. Earl Grey retires in disgust-Lord Brougham

Tuesday the 14th instant, Earl Fitzwilliam prebecomes Premier, and the new party, or the

faced the following resolutions, by a loog and able double-headed monster, recovers its feet. Over

speech :tures are stated to have been already made to The 1st resolution of the fourteen is intended to prove Sir Robert Peel-and rejected. The ministerial

that the plan of a graduated scale of duty produces great papers deny the reports of a prorogation, but this

fluctuations in the price of corn. The facts stated an sup

port of this proposition by the noble Earl are ibe following: does not make the thing a whit less probable. The

_On the 11th of July, 1828, the average price of Wheat discussion on the Irish Church is impending in the was 55s. 7d. per quarter ; in October of the same year it Peers. If the Tories think the time arrived when had increased to 65s. per quarter ; in 1829, the following they may safely venture in, they will throw out that fluctuations took place on the 2d of January the price * Bill; and in that case the Whigs are pledged to re

758. 11d. ; on the 3d of April 70s. 3d. ; on the 3 of July

68s. 24., and on the 2d of October 60s. ; ip 1839 the varia. tire. A prorogation anticipates this defeat; and we

tions were as followi-January 1, 558. 5d. per quarter : rather incline to believe that, in another month, we April 2, 63s. Id.; July 2, 68. 6d. ; (ctober 1, s. ; in



1831 as follows:-Jan. 7, 683. 3d. ; April 1, 72s. 4d. ; July that it does not appear to this House that the existing 1, 66s. 70. ; October 7, 61$. ; in 1832, January 6, 59s. ld. regulations for the trade iu foreign corn have succeeded per quarter; April 6, 59s. 6d. ; July 6. 63s. 2d. ; October in diminishing those fuctuations, but that, on the con5, 51s. 7d. ; and in 1833, January 4, 52s. 6d. ; April 5, trary, they have a tendency to aggravate them, by plac53s. 10d., the greatest variation in 1828 appears thus to ing occasional and unnecessary obstacles in the way of a have been 9s. 5d. per quarter; in 1829, 14s. Id. ; in 1830, free trade ia corn with foreign countries. 13s. Id. ; in 1831, 9s. 4d. ; in 1832, 8s. 5d., and in 1833, 9. That any disparity between the price of provisions in Is. 4d.

one country and another has a tendency to give comparaThe second and third resolutions are intended to prove tive encouragement to the industry of that country in that wheat sells on the Continent and in America at much which the subsistence of man is obtained at the lower cheaper rates than in this country, to establish which his rate, and to impose difficulties upon that of the country in Lordship gives the returns of the price of grain during the which it is obtained at the higher rate. last five years and a half at Dantzic, Hamburgh, Leghorn, 10. That the price of wheat in Great Britain stands Philadelphia, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Antwerp, Havre, gonerally at a higher level than in the other countries of and Marseilles. A specimen from each year will be suffi- Europe whose inhabitants are engaged in similar pursuits cient. In July, 1828, when wheat was selling in England with those of the British Empire. at 558. 7d. per quarter, the price at Dantzic was 24s. 3d. ; 11. That such higher price, iu a great measure, is to be at Hamburgh, 233. ; at Leghorn, 39s. 7d. ; at Philadelphia, ascribed to the laws which regulate the trade in foreign 295. 9d. ; at Amsterdam, 30s. 91.; at Rotterdam, 33s. 4d. ; at Antwerp, 34s. 6d. ; at Havre, 50s. 3d.; and at Marseilles, 12. That the varying scale of duties imposed by the said 52s. ; in October, 1829, the average price of wheat in Eng- laws operates frequently as a prohibition upon the import land was 60s. per quarter, (being the lowest return ;) and, of foreign grain, and, consequently, upon the export of Briin the same month, the prices on the Continent and in Ame- tish commodities. rica were, Dantzic, 38s. 84. ; Hamburgh, 34s. 63. ; Leg. 13. That, therefore, the manifest effects of the corn law's horn, 38s 7d.; Philadelphia, 36s.; Amsterdam, 433. 3d.; are to leave the agricultural interest exposed to all the dif. Rotterdam, 41s. 9d. ; Antwerp, Ols. 44. ; Havre, 5ls. 3d.; ficulties which arise from frequent and sudden fluctuations Marseilles, 58s. 6d. ; in January, 1830, the price in England in price-to discourage the export, and, consequently, the (the lowest in the year) was 5ös. 5d. ; whilst, in Dantzic, production of British commodities--to increase the cost of it was 29s. 9d. ; in Hamburgh, 31s. 34. ; in Leghorn, 35s. cultivating the soil, and of producing the manufactures of Ild.; in Philadelphia, 36s. ; in Antwerp, 41s. ld.; Havre, the United Kingdom—to render the industry of this nation 418. ; Marseilles, 575. 10d. ; in October, 1831, (the lowest less capable of competing with that of other nations and average,) the return in England was 6ls, per quarter ; to make the people less competent to support the several abroad, Dantzic, 41s. ld. ; Hamburgh, 45s.; Leghorn, 45s. burdens which the various exigencies of the State have im34. ; Philadelphia, 35s. 8d. ; Amsterdam, 43s. 2d. ; Rotter- posed upon them. dam, 50s. 6d. ; Antwerp, 578.; Havre, 54s. 6d. ; Marseilles, 14. That it is therefore expedient to revise the said laws, 588. 74. ; in October, 1832, the price in England was 545 and to place them upon a footing more consistent with jus7d. ; abroad, Dantzic, 30s. 70. ; Hamburgh, 28s. 4d.; Leg- tice, and more conducive to the welfare of the most importhorn, 39s. 5d.; Philadelphia, 36s. 7d. ; Amsterdam, 39s. 9d.; ant interests of the country. Rotterdam, 37s. 3d. ; Antwerp, 43s. 4d. ; Havre, 5ls. 6d. ;

The noble Earl concluded by saying, that
Marseilles, 57s. 6d.
The other resolutions are as follow:-

Whether he looked to the interest of the agriculturist, 4. That it further appears to this House, that the total tion, or to the ultimate interest of the proprietor of land,

(that was, the cultivator,) or of the manufacturing populaquantity of foreign wheat entered for home consuinption, under the provisions of the 9th Geo. IV. cap. 60, to the 5th (he said ultimate

interest, because he adınitted that there April, 1833, has been 4,795,746 quarters1 bushel; and I might be a temporary advantage to the proprietor in a conthat the total amount of duty paid thereon has been House could not confer a greater benefit upon the country,

tinuance of the present system,) he would say that that L.1,604,190, 10s. 10d.; and that the average rate of such

or perform a duty which would be received with greater duty is 6s. 8fd. per quarter, or thereabouts. That of the aforesaid total quantity were imported—

gratitude out of doors, than by going into consideration of Qrs.

the laws which regulated the duties upon corn, In 1829, 1,494,381 7 at an aver. rate of duty of 9s. 4d. p. qr. The Earl of Ripon, (late Lord Goderich, Keeper 1830, 1,494,881 7

68. 7d.

of the Privy Seal, and thus a member of the Go. 1831, 1,088,797 3 do. do. 4s. 9u. vernment,) would state clearly the Government in. 1832, 162,607 7

do. do. L.1, 3s. 9d. tention upon this subject, which it was bighly im. 5. That of the total quantity of 4,795,746 quarters 1 portant should be'set at rest. bushel so entered for home consumption, under the provi He objected to Lord Fitzwilliam's resolutions, in the first sions of 9th Geo. IV, e, Co, there were admitted

place, because the time and circumstances were not favourQrs. Bush, 1,571,311 5 at a duty of Is. Od. per quarter

able to the discussion ; secondly, on account of the gross 1,248,687 2 do. 2s. 80.

fallacies on which the resolutions were founded ; thirdly,

do. 564,437 0

on account of the fallacious conclusions drawn by the noble do. 6s. 8u. do. 508,217 7 do. 103. 8d.

Earl from those false premises ; and, finally, because the

do. viz.3,892,653 6 do. 10s. 8.1.

noble Earl proposed to pull down the present structure with

do. or under 903,092 3 do. 13s. 8d. do. or upw.

out being prepared vrith-materials for a better building 6. That it therefore appears that the supply of foreign

He compared the fluctuations which had occurred wheat afforded to the people of Great Britain, under the in the price of corn previously and subsequently to provisions of the 9th Geo. IV. c. 60, has been at the rate the enactment of the present laws; and concluded, of 1,008,860 quarters per annum, or thereabouts ; and that from the comparative steadiness of price during the the revenue derived therefrom has been at the rate of latter period, that any alteration would be injurious. L.337,479 per annum, or thereabouts. 7. That nothing is more injurious to those classes of the

He knew that by coinciding in his view they might be community which are engaged in the cultivation of the denounced as selfish, and that a popular clamour might be soil, than great and rapid fluctuations in the value of their raised agaiust them; but he considered it to be the duty commodities.

of the Government not to yield to any thing like popular 8. That such fluctuations cannot altogether be pre

clamour on this subject. vented in the price of an article, wbose production is The Earls of Winchelsea and Wicklow opposed necessarily affected by the variations in the seasons, but the resolutions.



Earl Fitzwilliam briefly replied ; and they were self, if, after having voted for the repeal negatived without a division.

Malt tax, and of the House and Window t21 We find nothing else in the proceedings of the was not ready to vote for a substitute for House of Lords last month, worth noticing. He did not think with Mr. Hume, that by2

screwing they could reduce the expenditare by ein.. HOUSE OF COMMONS.

or seven millions, A Property tax, ia shos *

necessary; it was the only measure which the Monday, April 30.-On this night's debate the satisfy the people, or render the country pies inmediate fate of the Wbigs hung. They were placed in the dilemma explained in our last month's Mr. Robinson agreed with Mr. Tenoysco in Register, but extricated themselves in a less manly understanding of what had fallen from Lord Aleza and straight-forward way than their organs of the on Friday. press had prepared us to expect. The proposal of Mr. Baring thought the reduction of the Malt z4, ter a property tax was a delusion to gain votes for the which he voted on Friday, might have been afforded vi reversal of the vote on the malt duty. The House out bringing on the necessity of a general commune was crowded at an early hour.

taxation; but even allowing that it were pot to his Lord Althorp said the circumstances in which tinctly whether he would have the Malt dury redes Ministers were placed by the vote of the House on a Property tax imposed, or the Malt duty left ikk Friday last, were, as he had before stated, extreme-should certainly say, leave the Malt duty alone, 256 ly embarrassing Government, after taking all the him the Property tax. (Cheers and laughter.) circumstances into consideration, had deterinined

Sir Robert Peel would not give an opinia ?

the to bring the question again before the House, in

great question till the proper time arrite! order that the whole state of the case might be Had be been in the Honse on Friday, he shoplita laid before them, and the consequences which decidedly opposed the reduction of the Malt de: would result from persevering in their vote of Fri- tain a sincere desire to see that tax abated, if posel.

He would have done that, not because he did se day be clearly explained and considered. It was

because he should have looked forward to the cooke, therefore his intention to move, as an amendment of that abatement ; he should have looked forrad: to Sir John Key's motion for the repeal of the bearing on the question of commutation of tal? House and Window duties

bearing on the question of the Corn laws to its batu “ That the deficiency of the Revenue which would be the question of the substitution of a Property ta1 occasionel by a reduction of the tax on Malt to 10s. a. substitution of a Property tax would lead to a tempt quarter, and by the repeal of the taxes on Houses and revolution in the whole of our financial systre. Windows, could only be supplied by the substitution of a general tax on property, and would occasion an extensive 31st, Sir John Key moved that such portion of the

HOUSE AND WINDOW TAXES.-On Tuesday tire change in our whole financial system, which would at pre- Assessed Taxes as related to Houses and Windows sent be inexpedient.” (Loud cheers, and cries of “ No, no !")

should be repealed. His Lordship, who has quite a knack of saying ed upon the annual value of all inhabited houses genere

The house tax at present in force purported to be ines one thing, while he means directly the reverse, then L. 10 per annum, upon the following graduated scale explained, that his remarks on Friday night ap- 1.10 and under L.20, Is. 6d. in the pound Lauad peared to have been misunderstood. He said, or under 1.40, 2s. 3d. ; L.40 and upwards as led. It meant to say, that although the question had been not necessary for him to enter into an bateriaal mount carried by a small majority, he would not take ad- of the rise and progress of this tas ; it was suficient le sy, vantage of the support of such gentlemen as had that, like most other bad measures, it wus at its first is subsequently entered the House, by again dividing troduction so mild in operation and so moderate in ancak, it at that hour of the morning. He bad, as every that it excited' but little opposition. When irst imposed, one acquainted with the forms of the House must together with the Window tax, it amounted to as %s ; know, a full right to do so, but declined exercising and thence to 8s. each house ; and it had gradually pea. it. The motion of which he had given notice gressed to the present period, when its enormous anomat would, he thought, sufficiently explain the course

exercised a most deadening and destractive interace which he meant to pursue relative to that decision. upon trade. The Marquis of Chandos said, that he had mis

In the year ending in January last, the Hosse understood Lord Althorp in the same way as Sir tax had produced upwards of L:1,357,000; of which W. Ingilby. He regretted that Ministers should

more than half was puid by the city of Londen, attempt to get rid of a vote of the House in the and the surburban districts within the bills of thormanner they proposed to do.

tality. After giving a history of the nature and Mr Tennyson had understood Lord Althorp to operation of this tax, the bon. member went en say, in very distinct terms, that notwithstanding

to state, that big hly taxed houses were the resithe smallness of the majority, he should feel it his dences of producers--the lightly taxed of the came duty to carry the resolution for the repeal of the chant-the creators of wealth-must live where

The tradesman and mecbanic, and met. Malt duty into effect. (Loud cries of * No, no!") they could; the consumers of wealth, at Brussels, He should like to know whether those members Paris, Rome, or Naples,-just where they pleased. who cried “No” were present ? should abide by the explanation which Lord Al- Mere shops and warehouses were pot the only isthorp had given. He wished, however, that mem

struments of trade, as Lord Althorp seemed to bers would consider the consequences of overturn

imagine. ing their vote of Friday,

It would be said that with this.

The Income tax was a heavenly tax compared forty members could impose taxes on the people, and there was no idea of revising their votes; but in common with incomes derived from other sources and

If it did tax the property of a man's trade, it was only when a House, consisting of three hundred mem- in the calculation of profits, it made an allowance for the bers took off a tax, then they were called upon to expenses of his trade. The House tax not only taxed to rescind their decision. He should be ashamed him- I come obtained, in an enormously disproportioned degree,

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ut it positively taxed the house, the very instrument, the The condition of the poorer classes in Ireland xpensive instrument, by which that income was made.

was described in the Report of the Select ComThe tax-gatherer made no allowance for the depression of mittee appointed in 1830 to inquire into the subject. rade; it was in vain the tradesman spoke of his bad debts, It was stated in that report, that one-fifth of the of his reduced rate of profit, of his diminished business ; population were slestitute of employment, and je lived in the house whether he was prosperous or unpros- that their cabins were the abodes of misery and vervus ; whether he throve or whether he was ruined--the disease, which it was hardly possible to exaggerate. axes must be paid. In conclusion, he declared that these taxes were

He thought that the introduction of Poor laws iable to every objection which applied to every

would go far to remedy this state of suffering. ax, without possessing the advantages of any.

Ireland was just now in the situation England was in Alderman Wood seconded the motion. One

the period immediately preceding the enactment of the Poor shopkeeper out of every three had become bank laws, and would continue so till the same just and wise

policy was pursued towards her. The working classes of rupt, or had compounded with his creditors. Lord Ireland were uncertain of the means of existence. They Althorp's measure respecting shop windows was

were as a mass without employment without the cerin a high degree unsatisfactory. He had received tainty of food_almost without hope. Was it to be letters from many shopkeepers who treated it as wondered at that they were the ready tools and victims of being altogether illusory, and they said that they the trader in sedition, the sordid agitator ? (Cheers, in would rather forego it for the repeal of some other which Mr. O'Connell joined.) tax.

The state of Scotland, which had been so often It seemed, however, that they came to the discussion of referred to as furnishing an argument against Poor the question this evening under peculiar circumstances. laws, on the contrary, told in favour of them. PreThe vote of the gentlemen of the landed interest was mix. viously to 1698, when Poor laws were established, ed up with the Malt tax and the Property tax; and he there was but little safety for life or property in had some little alarm that some persons might change their that country. Subsequently, the country was adminds. traordinary proceeding on the part of the Representatives of mitted, even by Dr. Chalmers, to be peaceful and che People.

flourishing Lord Althorp spoke at some length against a Lord Althorp opposed the motion and moved as Property-tax.

an amenilment, Mr Hume thought a great deal might be saved

“ That an humble address be presented to his Majesty, by retrenchment, and that both the Malt duty and praying that he would be graciously pleased to give directhe Assessed taxes might be repealed. He would lions that a commission do issue, to inquire into the consay to the Ministers, as they had said to the East Ireland, and into the various institutions at present estab

dition of the poorer classes of his Majesty's subjects in India Directors, who complained that they could lished by law for their relief.” not carry on the government of Iudia without money. We will cut off your supplies, and force the amendment. He approved of the view of the case

Mr. O'Connell wished to be permitted to second you to be economical.”. Many members spoke against a Property tax.

which Lord Althorp had taken. Deliberate inquiry Mr. Spring Rice called upon the House not to the horrors of the English Poor laws.

was necessary before Ireland was planged into all join in a disgracefal scramble for out-door popularity, but to vote for Lord Althorp's motion.

The distress of the Irish peasantry had not been Mr. O'Connell said, that Sir Robert Peel thought


It would soon, however, be augonly of one class of public creditors—those who mented; for, under the coercive measure lately had money in the Funds; but he forgot that more passed by the House, more notices to quit had been numerous class of public .creditors to whom the served upon tenants between the 25th of March House owed the debt of free institutions,

and the 1st of May than had been known in Ireland Lord John Russell

, Dr. Lushington, and Mr. W. for the last fifteen or twenty years. There was not Brougham, would all vote for Lord Althorp's

a single demand upon the peasantry which the amendment, and against the repeal of the House landlords would not enforce under the Coercive Bill. and Window tax. , !!

He implored the House, whatever restrictions Mr. Tennyson spoke strongly in favour of Sir they might impose upon Irish freedom, not to deJohn Key's motion; and expressed his surprise that stroy the sense of personal independence which still Sir Francis Burdett, who was in favour of a Pro- remained in that country, by the demoralizing inperty tax, and pledged to support the repeal of fluence of Poor laws. the Assessed Taxes, should notwithstanding vote

Mr D. W. Harvey regretted that Mr O'Connell against it.

should use his vast influence in Ireland in opposing The House divided,

the only means of affording effectual relief to the For Sir John Key's motion,

peasantry of his native

country. Against its


Mr H. Grattan, Mr C. Fergusson, Lord Acheson,

Lord Sandon, Mr Clay, and Mr Barron, were in ..:-6Lord Althorp's majority,


favour of a modified system of Poor laws for Ire

land. The vote to abolish half the malt duty was reversed. WEDNESDAY, May 1.Poor Laws IN IRELAND.

Mr Hume, Mr Shaw, and Colonel Conolly, opMr. Richards, on Thursday, moved the follow posed it. ing resolution. !!!

Mr Estcourt said, that Lord Althorp's amendThat it is the opinion of this House, that the estab mend did not go far enough, and was intended to, lishment of a provision for the Poor of Ireland, on the give the go-by to the question. But he would agree principle of the act of the 430 of Elizabeth, with such al.. to it, if he would add some such words as these : -" terations and improvements as time and circumstances " And to teport whether it is expedient to bave any

and may require, is expedient and necessary to the interests what suis' of money, to provide for the support of the of the United Kingdom." He brought forward this sub- lame, the blind, and the impotent, and those who are 106 ject because the goverment declined doing it.

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Lord Althorp denied that he intended to give the IRISH CAURCH REFORM-Monday 6th, the bill was go-by to the question. He objected to give the read a second time. Commission the powers proposed.

Sir Robert Inglis ohjected to it “from the crown Mr Richards replied. 'He was astonished to find of the head to the sole of the foot.” Mr O'Connell among the opponents to his measure. Mr. Robert Grant denied that the principle of

He held a paper in his hand, containing a report of the his measure was a novel one, as far as regarded proceedings of a meeting held in Dublin a few years agn, the consolidation of the Bishoprics, which was so on this very subject of the application of a system of Poor much objected to. Italy, Spain, Germany, and Jaws to Ireland. At that meeting Lord Cloncurry pre-even Ireland itself, afforded instances of the same sided ; and the meeting was addressed, amongst others, thing being done. He concluded by saying, that by a Mr O'Connell, be did not know whether it was the it was a most monstrous thing to keep op a large same honourable and learned gentleman who was now opposed to bis motion. That Mr O'Connell declared Church establishment, not for the sake of religion, that he was in favour of a system of Poor laws for Ire- but for the sake of its temporalities. Jand. He said that the poor must be supported either by

Crown LANDS.--Tuesday 7th Lord Altborp moved voluntary contributions or by the Government, and that for a Select Committee to inquire into tbe manageit was the first duty of a well-regulated Government, to ment of the revenue of the woods AND FORESTS. The provide for the poor. That Mr O'Connell went on to value of Crown Lands had, he said, been greatly say that he would have a well-regulated system of Poor exaggerated. laws for Ireland ; and he thought that such a system was Mr D. W. Harvey said the subject of regret was, that as necessary, particularly in the then circumstances of Ire- tbe King had made the surrender of this property a promi. land. In the conclusion of that speech, the Mr O'Con. nent topic of his speech two years ago, the Committee nell whom he quoted apologized for having detained the had not been appointed sooner. He firmly believed that meeting so long; but, as a convert to the opinion which the property was of great value, though the aristocracy he then entertained, he came to the question with all the had considerably diminished its amount since it was sur fervour of a renegado. (Loud cheers and laughter; which rendered to the people by Georve the Third. He did not were renewed when Mr Richards threw down the paper, hesitate to say, that some of the noblest portious of this from which he quoted, with much vehemence on the property had been obtained by some of the first families table.) He did not know-supposing that it was the same in the kingdom, for very suspicious consideration. He Mr O'Connell who had made that speech, and who had considered the Crown lands were worth fifteen millioss to-night opposed it he did not know which opinion he sterling; and the cost of collecting the revenue arising should prefer--whether he should have the opinion of the from them was twenty per cent. A committee would do renegado of that day from a former opinion, or the rene. little good_there should be a commission. gado of the present from that opinion. He supposed he Mr Hume thought the Scotch Crown Lands wanted in. must let the one neutralize the other, and come to the quiry. The Committee was appointed. conclusion that both were worth nothing.

Inisu VAGRANTS. – Mr R. Palmer, on Tuesday, mored He concluded by expressing his hopes, that Lord for a Select Committee to inquire into the law relatire Althorp would select men for his Commission, not to the passing of Irish vagrants, with a view to its amend. from among the political economists, but from ment.From a return of the numbers and expenses of among those who would collect and report facts Irish paupers passing to their own country through difwithout prejudice.

ferent counties for the last five years, it appeared that the The amendment was carried.

numbers had increased; and that the expense in Berk.

shire had been L.855. in Wiltshire L.1,000, in Glouces. Repeal or TAXES ON CAPITAL AND LABOUR.Coltershire L.1,285, in Warwickshire L.958, in Lancashire onel Torrens, moved the repeal of those taxes which L. 1,689. This was a serious business, and be hoped that lower the profits of capital and the wages of labnur. Government would take it into consideration. He was aware that the patience of the House had Lord Althorp acceded to the appointment of the Combeen wearied lately with discussions on the subject mittee, but would not pledge himself as to the course he would endeavour briefly to explain its actual that these Irish paupers could get no food at home, al. of a Property tax; but as it had been misunderstood, which he should afterwards pursue.

Mr. Cobbett hoped that the House would recollect, operation, and answer the objections. This he did, though their country furnished Yorkshiro and Lancashire but his motion was negatived without a division.

with large quantities of provisions. The burden of passDebtor AND CREDITOR IN SCOTLAND.—Mr. Jeffrey ing these paupers did not fall principally upon the counties (the Lord Advocate) on Thursday obtained leave Mr. O'Connell said, they would find Ireland come on to bring in a bill " for rendering the Payment of them again and again in every shape, until something was Creditors more certain and expeditions and for the done to identify the proprietors of the soil with the resá. better Regulation of Mercantile Bankruptcies in dents upon it. The great evil was, that so many of the that part of Great Britian called Scotland." proprietors of Irish soil resided elsewhere. Where the GLAsgow LOTTERY Bill.--Sir Robert Inglis on

proprietor of the soil in Ireland was an Englishman, and

lived in England, it must be expected either that bis Monday, asked Lord Althorp. wbether Ministers Irish estates should go to his second son, or that his eldest were aware that this bill had passed the House ?

son should be compelled to sell them. He did not object Lord Althorp was not aware of it till it bad passed. to the proposed inquiry ; but was certain that the object The word “lottery” did not occur in it. Sir aimed at by it would not be attained. Robert Peel said, the bill ought to be repealed. (A A committee was appointed. Member said, that the Lottery bad already been

Savings Bank Annuities Bill. - Lord Altborp postdrawn.) Sir Robert then said that the parties poned the third reading of this bill; and, in reply to a should be punished.

question from Mr. Collett, said, that he intended to omit The Irish JURIES Bill was passed

the clause which required a month's notice from deposi

tors before they could withdraw their deposits. Lord Cloncurry generally approved of the bill,

Mr. T. Attwood regarded the whole scheme of savings although he objected to those amendments which banks as a fraudulent delusion upon the people. They gave so much power to the Sheriff-a person who, had answered no other purpose than to divert so much owing to political prejudices, was nine times out of currency from productive industry. ten unfit to exercise it.

The Bill was next read a third time.

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