Q. Did you see any thing of him in the room? A. Yes. Q. Was he there when you went in, or did he come in afterwards? A. He was in when I went in. Q. You say Brandreth was there? Q. What did they call Brandreth? A. Captain. Q. Was it said where he came from? A. From Nottingham. Q. Where was he sitting? A. He was sitting just fronting the door, with his back towards the door. Q. Had he a table near him? A. Yes. Q. Did you hear what they were talking about when you went in, or at any time when you were there? A. They were talking about a revolution. Q. What revolution? A. That was to take place the next night. Q. Do you recollect what they said about it; what they were to do? A. They were to go to overthrow the Government. Q. Was any body to come to assist them? A. Yes. Mr. Denman. He has not said who were to do it. Mr. Clarke. I asked whether any persons were expected to come to join them? A. They wanted the Butterley people to come to joju them. Q. Was any thing said about their meeting; where they were to meet ? A. No, I cannot recollect where they were to meet; they were to meet at ten o'clock the next night. Q. Do you know who were to meet; what places were to meet the next night? 4. They wanted the Butterley people to meet them; and Cope told them they had enough to do at home, and could not meet them. Q. Was any thing said about the Wingfield people? A. Yes; the Wingfield people were to meet them. Q. Do you recollect whether any Wingfield people came into the room whilst you were there? A. Yes. Q. Who were they from Wingfield that came in ? Q. What Ludlam? A. Isaac Ludlam? Q. Old Isaac Ludlam? A. Yes. Q. Did they either of them say any thing or do any thing? A. They said they had no doubt they should succeed in what they were going to undertake. Q. What was it they were going to undertake? A. To overthrow the Government. Q. Had Brandreth any thing before him? A. He had a map. Q. What did he do with that map? A. He was pointing and pricking out places where they were to meet, and which they were to take. Q. Did you hear of any place in particular which they were to go to take? A. Nottingham. Q. And what were they to do when they had taken Nottingham? A. When they got to Nottingham they were to have plenty of rum and one hundred guineas each. Q. What were they to do, supposing them to have taken Nottingham ? A. They were to go to London to overthrow the Go vernment. Q. Were they to go to any other place? A. They were to go to Newark from Nottingham; they VOL. II. B b said it would be like a journey of pleasure to Newark from Nottingham, down by the Trent boats. Q. Did any body produce any paper? A. Yes, William Turner. Q. Had Turner made any enquiry about any arms before he produced that paper? A. He wanted to know where their list was, the list of the Butterley chaps was. Q. A list of what? A. A list of their arms. Q. You have said that William Turner produced a paper ? A. He read it so as almost every one might hear it. Q. What was it that he read? A. It was concerning what guns such and such people had, and which they meant to have. Q. What people were they? A. I cannot recollect what people they were. Q. Where did they live, did you understand? Q. Was it said in what parish they lived? A. I do not know where they were to have them from, but such and such people had them. Q. Was it expressed what parish those arms were in? A. No, I cannot recollect that it was. Q. That was read by Ludlam out of the paper which he received from William Turner? A. Yes. Q. Did the Pentridge people produce any list of arms? Mr. Clarke. Was any thing said about any arms in Pentridge ? A. I did not hear that there were any arms in Pentridge; Turner said, there were a quantity of spikes in a stone quarry for men that volunteered. Q. Do you know what number was mentioned ? Q. Was there any thing said about killing vermin? Q. Who said that, and what was it? A. It was Turner said that-he said they had vermin to kill, and every parish should kill its own vermin. Q. Did you hear any thing said about a badger? A. Yes, they said that they should draw the badger. A. William Turner. A. They were to take a bundle of straw and set it on fire before his door, and when he came out they were to shoot him. Q. Who was this they were to shoot? A. Colonel Halton. Q. Did you hear Isaac Ludlam say any thing about Nottingham ? A. No, I do not recollect hearing Isaac Ludlam saying anything about Nottingham. Q. Do you recollect whether there was any poetry recited? A. Yes. Q. I think said there were about twenty persons in the room? A. Yes. you Q. Did the same persons continue there, or was there a change of persons? A. Some came in and some went out. Q. Was there any secret made of this conversation which they held in this place? A. No. Q. Do you remember a person of the name of Mac Kesswick coming in? A. Yes. Q. Can you tell me whether he knew the captain or not? A. Yes, he knew him, he came part of the road with him from Nottingham. Q. He said so there, did he ? A. Yes; when he first came in he said he thought there were too many there for that business. Q. What sort of spirits were those persons in that were talking in this way? A. They were in good spirits; they said they had no doubt they should succeed in what they were going to undertake. Q. Do you recollect Joseph Weightman being there ? A. Yes. Q. Was he to do any thing? A. Yes, to go to Nottingham to see how they were getting on. Q. Which Joseph Weightman was it? A. It was not the brother, I understood afterwards. A. Yes. Q. Was it an elderly man ? A. No. Q. He was to go to Nottingham to see how they were going on? A. Yes. Q. When was he to go? A. He was to go as that night. |