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and has lately becn applied by the law to which their Commission is charged, to the net proceeds of sale, having before transact the public business at a much been charged on the gross proceeds. It lower rate ihan is fairly due to individuals appears by the evidence, that the excess receiving ordinary consignments.—On the of the commission of prize agents above whole, your Committee recommend that a that of merchants is justified chiefly by the Commission of five per-cent. on the net peculiar trouble imposed on the prize agent proceeds of sales should be allowed to the in the distribution of the proceeds of his sales Coinmissioners, they paying the charges among the crews of the capturing vessels, a of their establishment. — This allowance trouble from which the Commissioners for will probably amount to not less than about the Sale of Dutch Property were exempt. 50,000l. or 10,0001. to each Commissioner, If also the capital employed by the prize and will be more by about 17,0001. than agent, and the responsibility and risk to would be due to them, according to the which he is subject, are taken into consi- usual practice of merchants, and more by deration, little disparity between the two at least about 32,000l. than they could charges will be found.--Your Committee claim according to the precedent of 1756, will now present an Estimate of the Re- to which they have appealed.--The excess muneration, to which the Commissioners of this remuneration above that enjoyed would be entitled according to each of by merchants, as well as above that grantthe three principles which have been ed in 1756, may be justified on the ground mentioned. First, If the commission usual partly of the more than ordinary troublo among merchants of two and a half per imposed on the present Commissioners, cent. on the gross proceeds of sales should and partly by the length of time during be granted, about 50,000!. would be the which their Commission has necessarily amount of the ailowance, out of which the subsisted, and perhaps partly also by the expences of the Establishment (in all circumstance of your Committee, in conabout 17,0001.) would be to be defrayed, sequence of the omission not only of the leaving about 33,0001. clear pretit to be Commissioners, but also of the government, divided among the Commissioners.--2lly. having to recommend a retrospective arIf the principle adopted in 1756, of two rangement. The sum which the Commisand a half per cent, on the net proceeds, soners will have to refund, in case of the (which may amount to about 1,300,0001, adoption of this suggestion, will be not or 1,100,0001.) should be resorted to, a less than between co and 70,0001. They sum of about 32,5001. to 35,0001. would will also fail to receive nearly 20,0001. be receivable, which, the expences of the which they appear to have expected to establishment being paid, would leave appropriate to their own use, for further about 15,5001. to 18,0001. to be divided interest and commission.--Your Commitamong the Commissioners.—3dly. If the tee cannot allow any weight to the obsercommission should be calculated at the vation, that two oi the Commissioners rate which was usual among prize agents having, after a term, quitted their profes. at the time when the Commissioners began sions with a view to the fulfilment of their to act, namely, five per-cent. on the gross trust, some reference should be made to proceeds of sales, the sum would be about this circunstance in estimating the amount 99,000l. subject to a similar deduction, of the remuneration. No notice of the leaving a clear profit of about 82,0001.-- | intended sacrifice was given; and it is Your Committee can by no means agree obvious, that by proportioning the general to decide the question according to this compensation receivable by the Body to the principle. The Commission received by special claims of two Individuals, a more prize agents at the time when the Com-than adeguate reward would be granted to missioners were appointed, bas lately been the majority.--If it should be thought fit to determined to be a more than adequate adopt the suggestion of your Committee, the remuneration for the whole of their irou- Commissioners ought to be credited in acble. It should also be recollected that the count for the proposed Commission, and Commissioners not only have been exempt to be debited for all sums applied to their from the labour of distributing the pro- own use, since they have been taken withceeds of their sales among the individua' out due authority, the same general prinsailors concerned in the captures, and ciples being observed by the auditors in from much other trouble and responsibi- the settlement of the concerns of these lity, as well as from the advances to which Commissioners which are usual in similar prize agents are subject, but are also ena- cases.---Your Committee further suggest, bled, by the magnitude of the sum on that the Commissioners should be directed to use tlieir utmost diligence to make up Town of GODALMING. and transmit their accounts to the lords of At a Mecting of the Corporation and his Majesty's Privy Council, with a view principal inhabitants of the Town of Goto their being submitted to the Board of dalming, held at the Town Hall, in pro Treasury, and by them referred to the suance of a Requisition for that purpose, Auditors.-Your Committee have not pur- w the Warden of the Town, on Monday, sued their examination of all the topics to the 27th day of March, 1909. which their attention has been called, as It was (with the exception of two only) will be seen by the evidence, partiy be- manimously resolved, That an Address cause such investigation might detain them from the Corporation and Inhabitants of too long from their inquiries into other this Town be forthwith prepared and presubjects, and partly on the ground of their sented to G. L. Wardle, esq., M. P. thanknot wishing to be considered as exempting ing him for the nanly and patriotic spirit the government from the duty of applying by which he so peculiarly distinguished their aiiention to the transactions of the himself as a Member of Parliament, in Commissioners, or the auditors from the bringing forward and prosecuting the Indiligent and exact performance of the quiry in the House of Commons into the functions of their important office. The Conduct of the late Commander in Chief magnitude of the charges on the vessels his Royal Highness the Duke of York. and cargoes sold, which manifests itself in That Mr. W'eale the Warden, and Mr. the ditlerence between the gross and the Haydon, a Member of the said Corporanet proceeds, and in the excess of the tion, be deputed to present such Address, charges above the whole proceeds in the and that they do forthwith consult Mr. case of many vessels, appear to demand Wardle as to the most convenient time for attention.-Your Committee have had it his receiving the same. chiefly in their view to examine and ani- That these Resolutions be entered on madvert upon those points which derive the Records of the said Corporation, as a importance either from the magnitude of lasting memorial of the opinion entertained the saving in question, or from their in- by the Corporation and inhabitants of this volving some general principles, on which Town of Mr. Wardle's Parliamentary Serit might be material to insist.-On a re- vices, and as a Tribute of their grateful view of the whole of the subject which acknowledgments to him. has been before them, they beg leave ge
THE ADDRESS. nerally to remark, that to commit pecu- To G. L. Wardle, esq. M. P. niary trusts of extraordinary magnitude
Godalming, 27th B'arch, 1909. to persons, however respectable as indi- SIR;-We the undersigned Members viduals, and however qualified for their of the Corporation, and principal Inhabiemployment by the habits of their former tants of the Town of Godalming, this lives, without settling, during a long course day assembled at the Town Hall, in purof years, the more or amount of their re- suance of a Requisition for that purpose to muneration, without providing any ma- the Warden of the Town, feeling convinced terial check on their proceedings, and that Corruption in any Government must without reminding them of their responsi- necessarily tend to weaken its own just Aubility by calling for any regular or perio- thority, and admiring that manly and pa. dical account, is a neglect which may be triotic spirit by which you so peculiarly expected often to lead to equally prejudi- distinguished yourself as a Member in Parcial consequences, and is a deviation from liament, in bringing forward and prosethe acknowledged duty, and also, as your cuting the Inquiry in the House of ComCommittee trust, from the ordinary prac- mons, into the Conduct of the late Conde tice of government.
mander in Chief, desire to offer you our most sincere and hearty thanks, and as a
lasting memorial of the opinion we enterPROCEEDINGS
tain of your Parliamentary Services, we In COUNTIES, CITIES, Boroughs, &c. re- have caused this Tribute of Acknowledg
lative to the recent INQUIRY in the House ment to be entered on the Records of the of Commons, respecting the Conduct of the said Corporation. DUKE OF YORK. (Continued from p. 563.) (Here follow the signatures.)
LONDON :- Frited by T. C. HANSARD), Peterkcrough - Cout, Fleet - Strett; Published by R. BAGSHAIF, Prydges - Stiert, Covent - Garden :-Suid also by J. TUDI, Pall - Mall,
Vol. XV. No. 17.) LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 29, 1809.
" By the corruption of Parliament, and the absolute influence of a king, or his Minister, on the two “ Houses, we return into that state, to deliver or secure us from which Parliaments were institutech, and
are really governed by the arbitrary will of one man. Our whole Constitution is at once dissolved. “ Many securities to liberty are provided, but the Integrity, which depends on the Freedom and lode
pendency of Parliament, is the Key-stone that keeps the whole together. If this bė shaken, our Con. " stitution totters. If it be quite removed, our Constitution falls into ruin. That noble fabric, the pride “ of Britain, the envy of her neighbours, raised by the labour of so many centuries, repaired at the ex“ pence of so many millions, and cemented by such a profusion of blood; that noble fabric, I say, which " was able to resist the united efforts of so many races of giants, may be demolished by a race of pigmies. “ The Integrity of Parliament is a kind of Palladium, a tutelary Goddess, who protects onr state. When " she is once removed, we may become a prey of any Enemies. No Agamemnon, no Achilles will be " wanted to take our city: Thersites himself will be sufficient for such a conquest.”- BOLINGBROKE. 641]
[643 HAMPSHIRE MEETING. mentioned, I expressed a wish to see the This Meeting, the Requisition for hold-leaders of lvoth the political parties come to ing which was inserted in the present vo- the meeting, and, laying aside all party lume, at page 545, was held at Winches- considerations, join in taking that leading ter, on the 25th instant; and, as I think part, upon this occasion, which was suitthe proceedings of great importance to the able to their rank and property. That nation at large, I will here give a correct I was perfectly sincere in this wish an acaccount of them. It is very well known, count of my conduct afterwards will clearthat, for a long time past, County-Meet- ly shew. Having been informed, that the ings have been merely the work of party; Earl of Northesk approved of the Meeting, and, in fact, that the Resolutions, or other 1, after writing a letter to him, waited upon things, emanating from such Meetings, his lordship, at his own house, on the 15th have not contained the sentiments of the of April, when I stated to him, in a very people of any county, any more than de- full manner, my sentiments as to what cisions, in another place, have correspond- ought to be declared at the Meeting; ed with the sentiments of the nation at I repeated my wish respecting the persons large. Therefore, it is necessary to give to take the lead, but asided, that if Mr. the history of this Meeting in llampshire, Powlett chose it, I thought, the proposifrom which history the nation will be able tions, whatever they might be, ought to to judge of the weight which ought to be come from him.- To the same effect I altached to the opinions and the decision had before written to Mr. Powlett himself. of the Meeting. The Speeches, made upon -On the 24th, when I had requested this occasion, and which occupied nearly to wait upon Lord Northesk again, he did four hours in the delivery, it would be im- me the honour to call upon me, and to ina possible to give here, nor would it be of form me, that Mr. Powlett had prepared much use, if I were able to do it, seeing some Resolutions to be offered to the that they have been published so much at Meeting. I then shewed him the Resolulength, in the STATESMAN and other daily tion, which I had just drawn up (and papers, and seeing that the several clauses which was passed at the Meeting), upon of the first Resolution do so fully express which he gave no opinion whatever.
In all the most material principles, maintain his lordship's presence I then enclosed a ed by those who spoke in support of that copy of that Resolution in a letter to Mr. Resolution.- -As to the origin of the Powlett; and as I understood that Mr. Meeting, the history of that will be found Herbert was at Mr. Powlett's house, I reat the page before referred to, and in the quested the laiter to shew the Resolution Address to the county, which I subjoined to the former, at the same time distinctly to the Requisition. What remains to be stating in my letter, that, if none of them done is to give a faithful account of what chose to move that Resolution, or something took place, after the publishing of that Re- substantially the same, I shogld think it my quisition and Address ; which account I, as duty to do it. By the bearer of my having had a considerable share in the letter Mr. Powlett sent me word, that he business, owe to the county and to the would meet me at the George Inn at Winpublic at large.--In the Address before chester, the next morning at ten o'clock.
He came at about half past eleven; and, county to look up ; secondly, to shew, that as there was no time to lose (the Meeting Mr. Chamberlayne and I had not (as being being to be held at twelve o'clock) I iin- near neighbours it might be supposed we mediately went into the room where he had) been contriving any operation for the was, and where, at my request, his Resolu- day of meeting, and, in justice to Mr. tions, which will be found below, were Chamberlayne's talents as well as his moread, in the presence of Lord Northesk, tives, to show that he had had no time Mir. Bonham of Petersheld, and Mr. Budd, whatever to frame a speech for the occaof Newbury. I frankly declared to him, sion; thirdly, to show, that there was, on that they did not meet my approbation, our part, no trick, nothing done underhand, and that I was morally certain, that the nothing, from beginning to end, which Meeting would view them in the same could be construed into a design, or a light; and I added, in nearly these words : wish, to induce the Meeting to adopt any “ as we have not a moment to lose, and as thing, which did not perfectly correspond “ straight lines in politics, as well as in with their own opinions and wishes; and, “ geometry, are the shortest, I will frankly fourthly, to show to the nation at large, “ tell you, Sir, that if those Resolutions that the Resolution, passed at the Meeting,
are offered to the Meeting, I shall move does contain the free and unbiassed senti" to set the whole of them aside, and to ments of that Meeting, the like of which “ substitute
my Resolution in their place.” Meeting Winchester had not seen, I beAfter a few words more, I and Mr. lieve, within the memory of man, and Budd walked out, leaving Mr. Bonham certainly not for many years past.and Lord Northesk with Mr. Powlett, the The Meeting was opened in the usual former of whom, we were in hopes, would place; but that being instantly filled, I have prevailed upon Mr. Powlett to take proposed an adjournment to the great what I proposed instead of his own. Hall of the Castle. Even that, however, -Here ended the communications between being thought too confined a space, it was
Just before I saw Mr. Powlett, I determined to adjourn to the Grand Jury had, by mere accident, seen Mr. Cham- Chamber, as a place to speak from, while berlayne of Weston, and whom I had not the audience took their station in the seen, or had any communication with, for court-yard of the Castle.---The number
year and a half before. Mr. Chamber- of persons present, exclusive of comers and layne, who was sitting down to breakfast, goers of the town, might be from eighteen said to me, in his usual frank manner, hundred to two thousand, as nearly as I
come, Cobbett, let's see what you have could guess. They .consisted chiefly of “ got to propose to this Meeting to-day." the principal tradesmen and yeomanry
-“. There,” said I, “ take the paper from all parts of the county, persons able " and read it, while I run down to Mr. to spare the time and to afford the expence “ Powlett, who is just come in.”—The of carriages and horses; nor should it be moment I left Mr. Powlett, I went back to forgotten, that, except the time of harvest, Mr. Chamberlayne, who told me that he a more busy season of the year could not most cordially approved of every word in have been fixed on.
We saw, upon the Resolution. I then gave him an ac- this occasion, none of that rabble that fol. count of what had taken place between low the heels of an election candidate for me and Mr. Powlett, and added : “ if the sake of a little dirty drink; we heard
they should render it necessary for me no senseless bawling on one side or the or to move this Resolution as an amend other; no squads of hirelings to hiss or “ inent, will you second me?" To which to applaud ; what we had the pleasure to he answered,
-Not another behold from the Grand-Jury Chamber word passed between us ; nor did I even windows that day, was, an assembly of see him again, till he stepped forward, sober, intelligent men of property, a fair and, in a speech which deserved and which representation of the sense and the inreceived unbounded applause, fulfilled his tegrity of this county; and, therefore, the promise. I have thought it right to decision cannot fail to have great weight state all the circumstances, in order to with the kingdom at large, especially shew, first, that, from beginning to end, I when it is considered, that the discussion did all that I could possibly do, to avoid lasted for nearly four hours, that ample the necesity of being myself the person opportunity was afforded to every one to to take the lead at the Meeting, and to express his sentiments, and that the reguleave that office in the hands of those, to larity of the whole of the proceedings of whom it would be more natural for the * the Meeting (aided as it was by the con
spicuous ability as well as the strict im- , “ Attempt of his Majesty's Ministers to partiality of the High Sheriff) might afford exculpate the late Commander in Chief, an example even to assemblies, whose pro- “ and shewed, by their Votes, a Convicceedings, down to minute particulars, are « tion in their minds of Abuses in the regulated by orders having the force of “ State, and a firm Determination to resist law.—Such was the assembly to whom
11 them.” the Resolutions were submitted, and I now proceed to insert those Resolutions, begin- These. Resolutions were objected to by ning with those proposed by Mr. Powlett, me for several reasons : generally, because whose motion was seconded by the Ho- they were an inadequate expression of the nourable William Herbert; and this I do, sentiments, which I thought ought to be in order to put upon record what the Meet- expressed, upon the occasion ; and, partiing rejected as well as what they adopted. cularly, because they omitted to express
« Resolved, That his Majesty's Ministers, distinguished approbation of the conduct of “ by their attempt to deter the Mover of those members of parliament, who had “ the late Inquiry, by threats of disgrace acted a distinguished part in support of Mr. " and infamy, by their conduct during its Wardle, and also of those Hampshire
progress, and by their influence which members, by name, who had voted in the “ they exerted at its conclusion, have sa- minority of 125, while all the other Hamp“ crificed the true interests of the Crown, shire members bad been either absent,or had “ treated with contempt the opinion and voted against Mr. Wardle upon that most “ the Rights of the People, and proved interesting occasion ; but, with regard to " themselves unworthy the Confidence of this point, I objected to the Resolutions, “ their Country:
in a more pointed manner, and without “ Resolved, "That it is expedient that being able to suppress my indignation, « Parliament should take into their serinus seeing that they omitted the names of Sir “ consideration the great and increasing Francis BURDEtt and Lord FOLKESTONE,
Expenditure of the State, by which the without whose support and assistance, the “ means of Corruption are multiplied, and whole nation must be convinced, that it “ immediately adopt the most effectual would have been impossible for Mr. War“ mode of retrenching all Profusion of the dle to have proceeded on to that success,
Public Money, and diminishing the in- which attended his most excellent exer“ fluence of Ministers over the Electors of tions.-He, I am certain, is the last “the Kingdom and their Representatives. man in England to deny this: he has re
Resolved, That the discovery of peatedly acknowledged it in the Ilouse ; “ abuses will prove of little permanent and would it not be shameful for us to en
advantage, unless followed by further deavour to suppress so important a truth?
Inquiry and Reform, as the only means -Though Sir Francis Burdett was, by “ of transmitting to Posterity that Consti- illness, prevented from attending during " tution, which is the pride of every Bri- great part of the examinations, does not « ton, and the admiration of the World. every one perceive the great weight which
“ Resolved, That the late Inquiry in was given to the charges by his seconding “ Parliament has proved, beyond the pos- the motion for inquiry? And, as to Lord
sibility of doubt, the existence of Abuses Folkestone, not only did he firmly stand “ of a most ruinous tendency, in various by Mr. Wardle, when the whole of one Departments of the State.
side of the House, and many on the other “ Resolved, That G. L. WARDLE, Esq. side of the House, were openly and vio
by his manly and patriotic Efforts in lently assaulting him, and endeavouring “ the late Inquiry, has rendered an im- to run him down ; but his lordship had
portant service 10 his Country, is enti- the merit of bringing to light himself, one “ tled to the Praise of all honest and inde- very important branch of the subjects of
pendent Men, and merits the grateful inquiry, namely, the Loan transaction with “ Thanks and warmest Approbation of Kennett. And, were these two gentlemen " this Meeting
to be merely huddled into the 125, with“ Resolved, That the Thanks of this out any particular mark of approbation ? Meeting are particularly due to the And, were Mr. Whitbread and those by “ Minority of 125 who supported the whose exertions of eloquence so much “ Motion of G. L. Wardle, Esq. and to was achieved to pass without being parti“ those, who, though differing in minute cularly named ? Besides, and I beg the “ particulars from the Hon. Mover, had reader to mark it, if these Resolutions had “ the Honesty and Courage to oppose the passed, Sir Francis Burdett would not have