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Arelon. I have nothing for nor against him,

Alice Duwson was next examined. I never saw him before in my life.

I'wing. JIr. Mowbray hath declared be Alice Dawson. The day after New Year'snever knew any thing of the plot.

day was twelve-months, Mrs. Bolron said, she Just. Dolben, To whom did he declare it? was sorry for nothing but that her husbaod bad Thaing. There is witness of it, my lord. meddled with Mrs. Pressicks. Just. Dolben. Call them.

Then Mrs. Pressicks called for John Pepper. Thicing. He accused not ine of the plot. Just. Dolben. He was no protestant then. Just. Dolben. What do you say to him,

Thwing. I never knew any thing of the plot mistress? until I came from London,

Pressicks. I ask about my going to Parlington Just. Dolben. Well, if you have any more

at Whitsuntide. witnesses, call them.

Just. Dolben. No, it was at Candlemas, and Thwing. Mr. Cooper.

they said it was cold weather to sit in the ballJoseph Cooper. I have nothing to say in this porch. business about this gentleman, it is concerning Pressicks. It was also said at Whitsuntide. sir T. Gascoigne.

John Pepper. About Whitsun Monday, my Thwing. Yes, he declared before these wit-, lord, I went to Barınbow, and met there with nesses he knew nothing of the plot.

Mr. Pressicks and Mrs. Pressicks; and he deCooper. We were coming from Atherton fair, sired me to tarry and carry bis wife to Mrs. and my father began to discourse with Mr. Harrison's, at Parlington, and she and I went Mowbray, and asked him if he knew any thing down to Shipton, and carried her from Bolron's of the plot that sir Thomas was cailed to on Whitsun-Monday, and stand till Thursday. London for; he said, he knew nothing of the Just. Dolben. Aud what is all this to the plot, and he thought sir Thomas was guilty of purpose? She was, however, as it was sworn 110 such thing; for, if he bad, he should have against her, al Shipton at Whitsuntide. known it as soon as Bolron, and he was a Pepper. This is all I can say, my lord. rogue and a knave for saying any such thing. Just. Dolben. When was this

Zachary Thorpe was again called by The ing. Cooper. It was about this tine twelvemonti. Thorpe. Bulron said, he was going to swear Just. Dulben. Were you upon the road then? | against ing lady Tempest, and it one thing Cooper. Yes.

would not do, another should, and would hare Sir T. Stringer. Had Mowbray then made had me to give evidence against Shipton. any discovery of the plot? Cooper. Yes, that was the reason we asked

Mrs. Baynes (mother to Mr. Bolron) called. him about it.

Bar. Atkyns. What do you say, Mrs. Baynes? Just. Dolber?. Yesterday (opon lady Tem- Mrs. Baynes. Indeed, my lord, I know nopest's trial) you said, that Mowbray had not thing of this, I know not Thorpe, Shipton I then made any discovery.

know, and he told me ; that if he had not Cooper. Yes, my lord, I mean Bolroo. fallen into my lord of Shrewsbury's service, he

Just. Dolben. Really, methinks, you that are and Thorpe would have turned highwaymen. priests should be more dextrous; my lady Tem

Mr. Babbington called by Pressicks. pest managed her business much better, and had her witnesses in more readiness,

Just. Dolben. Can you say any thing for Mr. Thwing. My lord, I call upon the witnesses Pressicks? and they will not come int, I cannot hely it. Babbinglon. I can say nothing, but what I Edward Cooper, senior, was then called,

said yesterday concerning sir T. Gascoigne.

Just. Dolben. Can you say any thing for Edward Cooper. I know nothing; I met Pressicks? Mr. Mowbray coming from Atherton fair, and Babbington. No, my lord, I can say nothing he said, he thought sir Thomas was not guilty for Mrs. Pressicks; yes, thus much I'must say, of the plot.

that when I came to have the writings sealed by Thwing. Mr. Mowbray declared for eight or Bolron, his wife refused to seal them without ten months together in 1677, he knew nothing of delivering up of the bonds. I told her, it the plot. Call Mr. Hobart.

would be an additional security to sir T. GasHobart. I know nothing of it.

coigne ; he said he did believe, that Mr. Pres. Thwing. I am innocent, I know nothing, as sicks and his wife were enemies, and that I hope for salvation.

they did instigale sir Thomas to sue him. Then Isabel Heyward, a girl that lived with

Just. Dolben (to Thwing). Come, what bare Bolron as a servant, was called.

you more to say ?

Thwing. I have no witnesses to call, but I hope Isabel Heyward. My master and mistress fell it will be considered what kind of witnesses out about going to London, and she said, she these are, what lives they have led; they bring would not go, and he said he would make her me in amongst the rest, we are all of a family; go; and she said, if he did, she would swear I hope, my lord, you will consider that those all that what he had sworn against Mrs. Pressicks men that will, may take away an honest man's was out of malice,

life unjustly,

Just. Dolben. I hear nobody speak against treason against him; bere is an imagining the their lives, and this I must tell you, till men be death of the king, and here is an overt-act, convicted of some crime that may disable them, here is a setting hands to it; so that if this be you cannot take away their testimony. true, Thwing is guilty of high-treason. Now

Thwing. My lord, witnesses should be men against this they have produced many witof credit and reputation.

nesses, and none of them doth go about to Just. Dolben. The jury is to consider of that. prove this impossible, but only in probable ;

Look you, gentlemen, these two prisoners but one that is a grooi of sir T. Gascoigne's, stand indicted of high-treason, and it is for con- who saith, he was but once or twice that year spiring the death of the king, and other heinous there, and not at Easter, but about Michaelcrimes ; as designing the subverting the go-mas: is that enough to answer the testimony of vernment, and bringing in the popista religion. these two men, gentlemen ? For a groom to

* Now, the witnesses that have been produced take upon him to say two years after, who was against Mr. Thwing, are Bolron and Mowbray; at his inaster's house, and how often, and what and against Pressicks, Mr. Bolron, Mrs. Bolron time of the year, is to me a very strange thing; sen. and juo, and one Hutchinson; and the evi- unless it were one that never used to come dence against Tbwing is one thing, and against there : but this man, he saith, did use to come the woman quite another; there is no evidence there, but that I must leave to you. The rest against her but what they heard her say others of the witnesses were the same that were exawere to do; there is no evidence of any action mined yesterday. First, they insist concerning of hers, or that she was present at any consul. Mr. Lowther, they say, that when Mr. Bolron tation, nor acting any thing there, but that she first went to Mr. Lowther, he said nothing of said so and so. Now Mr. Bolron and his Mr. Thwing, but it appears, he said then, that grandmother do both say, that she said Picker- afterwards he might remember more; then the ing was to have killed the king, and that she man was under a great consternation, and told was sorry that he did not do it. That the gun him the great and dangerous consequences of with which he should have done it was found, having so long concealed it, was the occasion of and she was afraid that was the cause of his that disorder upon him ; but he said he should death; and they all say she said, that it would remember more afterwards, and so he did : the never be well with England, till the Catholics rest of the witnesses do all go to this purpose, had got the upper hand, and the duke of York that either Bolron or Mowbray should tell were king. Now I must tell you, that my opi-thein at one time or other, they did know nion is, that a bare saying of this doth not nothing of the Plot, nor against sir T. Gasamount to high-treason, unless you do believe coigne ; and some of them say, that it is out from these words, that she knew otherwise than of malice tu sir Thomas's family; for so Thwing by hearsay, that Pickering was to have killed would have it, he being bis nephew, that the the king, and that she was privy and consent. malice should reach to Mr. Thwing, that they ing to the design of killing the king, then she would have it; and something to the same is guilty of treason; but if she only knew it hy purpose they do offer against Mr. Mowbray. hearsay, the bare knowledge and concealing of Now here is one Waller, that swears, that it will make her guilty of misprision of treason ; | Bolron asked her if she knew Thwing to be a but knowing of it barely by report doth not priest, and oflered her 101. to swear him a make lier guilty of high-treason. My brother priest; she is a servant of one Mrs. Lassell, will tell you his opinion herein. Now for Mr. Mr. Thwing's sister, he came to Mrs. Lassell's, Thwing, the evidence against him is very home, to search for priests; it is something strange, for they both swear against him, one to one that he should offer to persuade her to swear meeting, and the other to another, that he was against Tuning, who was a servant to his owa present at their consultation to kill the king, sister, and at the time when he came to search subvert the government, and to bring in the for priests ; the truth of it is, the thing doth popish religion ; that he did agree at the meet- depend purely upon the credit of witnesses. ing to the killing of the king, they do both The king's witnesses are upon their oaths ; swear, and this they say was at sir 1. Gas- but, on the other hand, the others are not on coigne's, and that at the several meetings there their oaths; but credit is to be given to what was a list produced; but Bolron saith, that they say, if you consider their evidence, and the list when he was present was a list of those do find a clearness in their testimony, which that were engaged towards the carrying on of you must weigh; for certainly he that solemnly, the nunnery ; that which the other speaks of, in the presence of God, will say a false thing, was a list of those that were engaged about the will also dare to swear it; how far their prinkilling the king, about the whole design which ciples will carry them I know not, I can see was to be effected by killing the king, this be nothing but Bolron and Mowbray are good swears, that Thwing did produce this list; and witnesses; I do not see but what they say is Mowbray saith, that three or four priests were coherent, and that they speak the truth; and present at that time, and that Thwing, said the if you believe what they say to be true, then king was an heretic, and excommunicated by thwing is guilty of high-treason : but if you do the pope, and that it was not only lawful but not believe what they say is true, but out of meritorious to kill him. So that admitting this malice, you must acquit him. They do object evidepce be true, it is a full evidence of bigh- the other juries did not believe Boiron and


and if ever any of the lords in the Tower should, and I thought them to be servants belonging to suffer, this nation should feel a bloodier war some of my company, who had followed me on than ever it had done; by which you may see my calling; and as I came into Bell-yard, one his bloody nature. Gentlemen, besides this we of them went faster than I went, and got be. shall prove (according to their custom of sham-fore me, and turned and looked earnestly in my ming) that he has from time to time pretended face, and I went by him, when a woman standas if Mr. Arnold had done this business hin.self, ing in a door about the middle of Bell-yard, or some of his friends, to revive the plot. A with a candle in her hand, I looked in his face, very fine contrivanice indeed! for a person to and that person was the prisoner at the bar; stab hiinself, and cut his own throat, to revive and when his companion or companions came the plot. These things we will make out clearly up to him, I heard them laugh aloud; I took no to you : And I must tell you it is a notorious notice, but went on, and went as far as to that crime, such a fact as bas no precedent: there house. is no remembrance in history, that I know of, Mr. Recorder (Sir George Jefferies.) You of such barbarous attempis, except in the knew him before, Mr. Arnold? case of sir Edmundbury Godfrey, who was Mr. Arnold. I did not know him so well be most barbarously murdered by this sort of men. fore as to know his face. At the kennel at the And this case, gentlemen, differs from that end of Jackanapes Lane, I looking down to find only in this, that there they accomplished their the kennel, a cloak was thrown over my head, villainy upon him: but the providence of God then I found very rough bands upon my shoul. saved Mr. Arvold's life, and I hope to as good ders, and they ran me into Jackanapes-Lane, purpose : For as providence ordered that to just cross the lane, against the opposite wall, confirm the truth of the popish plot; so this and they run my head so hard I think they broke assassination of Mr. Arnold must convince all it; I drew my sword before, but before I could mankind (not concerned in the plot itself) that use it, I was struck, and immediately upon that, this damned Popish plot still continues, and one of them struck me; then I apprehended that it is high time for all honest men, as much what it was, but could not turn to make any as in them lies, to endeavour to suppress ir. defence. I received a second blow, and feti, You, gentlemen, will do your duty in fiuding and the first thing I was sensible of was a very this man guilly (if the evidence we give satisfies sharp quick thrust in my side, and the point at your consciences that he is so, else God for that thrust ran into my belly; then I recorering bid), and then I doubt not but the court will began to make what defence I could. With a do their duty, in putting such an exemplary pu- broad sword I was run through my arm, and nishment upon this villain, that may deter che with a small weapon I was run through in ang like barbarous and bloody attempts for the ther place of my arm. I had several other future.

wounds; one of them set his foot hard upon Mr. Arnold sworii.

my breast, and kept me down, and he iras, as

I conceive, run into the leg by one of his com. Mr. Thompson. Pray, Mr. Arnold, give an ac- panions, for I heard him say, Damme thou count of this business.

hast spoiled my leg.'. They laughed all the Mr. Arnold. My lord, I was ordered by the while, and were exceeding merry. I had then king and council to attend upon them the next on a pair of bodice of whalebone, notwithday after this villainy befel me. I was upon the standing which I had four or five wounds in my 16th day of April in my chamber in the after- body through them, for they were not proof, noon, and my lord Chandois and several other but they imagined they were, fiuding their persons caine to any chamber, and one Evans, swords double sometimes, and then said one of one of the messengers belonging to the council, then, Damme, he has armour on, cut his came to give me notice that my hearing (which throat.' Immediately one kneeled down, and I was informed was to be at four in the after- gave me several cuts in the lower part of the noon) was ordered to be at ten in the morning, face, and I did what I could to defend myself, which was the reason I sent my servants out to but they have given me some indelible marks, give uotice of this alteration to my witnesses and characters that will never be obliterated while counsel. And though I had resolved not to stir I live, and I am afraid I shall never be myself out that night, I went out with the company to again, by reason of the broists in any heart and the Devil-tavern, where we were, and staid till breast. "By a candle in a window, I conceive in about ten or past; and just as we were break- sir Thomas Baldwin's house, and some women ing up, I recollected that I had some business in bis yard, gave them the first disturbance, with Mr. Phillips, who is a couosellor at law, and a boy coming by with a link ihe same time, and lives near the end of Bell-yard. I desired I both saw the face of the prisner at the bar the company to stay, and I would come to them again, and remembered I saw him in the lane in a moment. I went to the room where se just before. They then pulled the cleak froin veral servants were, and called to some of them off me, and I seeing the light, and beligtased of to go with me; For several of my friends and the weight, I strained all my strength and cried neighbours being in town, I very often took out, and then some company came in, who are their servants with me, when mine were busy or here to prove it; but seeing me ait blood and out of the way. As I went cross Fleet-street, I dirt, they stood gazing on me a time, but at last did ser twe men in campaign-cloaks follow me, took me up and carried me into the Sugar-loaf,


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and from thence I was carried to my lodging, ) membered by the jury, that they may see
where all the company I left came to me, and a there be no injury done to the prisoner at the
surgeon was sent for, who is also here to prove bar, but that rigbt be done on both sides, and
bis knowledge of the condition he found me in that in every circumstance.
And when they went away, they did not steal Mr. Holt. Now, Sir, we will call Mr. Phil.
away as other malefactors used to do, but clapt lips, with whom he had this discourse the next
their swords close to their bodies, and went day.
away laughing aloud; but as they were going, Recorder. Will the prisoner ask him any
one of them said these words, Now, you dog, questions?
pray for, or pray again for the soul of Captain Pris. Truly Mr. Arnold knew me in Mon-
Evans, Captain Evans was a Jesuit, and was mouthshire, and knew me as well as any man in
executed at Cardiffe for being a priest ; and I

the city.
have been informed by several persons of good Recorder. Did you not very well know him?
quality, that when the under sheriff came to Arnold. It is very possible I might see him,
give him notice that he had a warrant for his and often at assizes and sessions, but not to
speedy execution, the said Evans being in a know him ; nor did ever know whether his
game at tennis, said 'God damme, I will play name were Giles, or what it was. Your lord-
out my set first.'

ship sees many persons here, and often, and it
Recorder. Mr. Arnold, I would know one' is possible do not know them; he lives I think
thing : Will you undertake to swear positively a dozen miles from we.
that this person was one of the persons who Pris. That is a wonder; if it please you,
stept before you? Will you take it upon your sir, my wife is a near relation to you, both by
oath, that that person, the prisoner at the bar, father and mother, and I have spoken with you
went before you?


Nr. Arnold. I will take it upon my oath, as Arnold. It is possible she may, but I do not
far as a man can do, for one man, it is possible, know it.
may be like another both by his voice and

Stephen Phillips. his face; I can swear I believe he is the

Mr. Holt. Pray, Mr. Phillips, give an acMr. Thompson. You are satisfied upon the first

count of what discourse you had witla Giles

the day after the business was done. sight that yon had of him in the country, that

Phillips. We went to the tavern, and drank be was the man. Mr. Arnold. Yes, sir, and he can tell you discourse concerning Mr. Arnold ; it was about

two or three boules of wine, and we had some that by a very good token, for I had like to

eight or nine in the evening the next day, soine have run him through. Recorder. We must not expect that there condition, aud how he was hurt, and of ihac

discourse happened concerning bis miserable can be exact and positive proof; for men that commit offences of this impudent nature do not usually call witnesses to be present to see them

Recorder. How many was there in com. done ; therefore we would come as near as we can to circumstances, whereby a fact of such a

Phillips. One or two more.

Recorder. What house?
nature is to be proved. Mr. Aruold, do you
believe that the prisoner at the bar was

Phillips. At the Crown tavern in New-street,

in Covent Garden ; and among the rest, Mr. one of the persons that went before you in Bell Yard?

Giles was talking of it, and said be, God

damn him, God rot him, he had armour on ;' Mr. Arnold. Upon my conscience I do be

the word was,. God damn bim,' or, ' God rot lieve he was the man. Recorder. What o'clock was it?

hiin, he had armour on, they say.' Mr. Arnold. About 11 o'clock, or between

Mr. Holt. What time of night was that? 10 and 11.

Phillips. As near as I can remember, it was Recorder. When the link came there, was

about eight or nine the next day in the evening.

Mr. Thomson. The very words that Arnold there three? And do you believe by the light

swears when they went to cut his throat. you had by the link, ibat that was one of

Pris. My lord, if you please, there was Mr. the persons that were there?

Arnold. I saw his face and habit, and be. Phillips and another; and I spake nothing but lieve be was.

what I heard as news, that they had killed him

if he had not had annour on.
Recorder. What hab bad be on?
Arnold. He had a grey cloak, a campaign shall have your time, and you may call

Recorder. For that matter, Mr. Giles, you


other cloak, and a coat, I think, lined with red. It

witnesses, but the gentleman positively swears is impossible to give an account of every par- you said these words ; and if so, I will assure ticular under those circumstances I was in. Recorder. It is not to be expected that a

you it does not look as if you were a-kin to man under your circumstances should be extra

him, or your wife either. ordinary precise in circumstances"; therefore

Walter Watkins. it is asked you, that according to the best of Mr. Holt. Mr. Watkins, what did you hear your apprehension, you might acquaint the court that Giles should say in Gloucestershire about with those circumstances that may be re- this business? VOL, VII,

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we were

Mr. Thomson. What said he about this busi- Recorder. There was the apprentice, but he Dess of Mr. Arnold ?

does not know his name, and Darcy and Giles Watkins. My lord, all I can say is this : 1 and his wife. being at the stating some accounts between Mr.

William Richmond. John Giles ani Mr. Richmond, I asked Mr. Giles for some borsebair to make a Mr. Holt. What did you hear Giles say fishing line: Mr. Giles replied, That he about the rapier ? had left very good hair for me at a farrier's W. Richmond. He asked me in the afternoon in Gloucester; for he and Mr. llerbert before Mr. Arnold was hurt, where he might Jones made such haste through the town | buy a very good rapier : I told him I could of Gloucester, that they did not call for the not tell. He then had a good back-sword in horsehair. I asked Mr. Giles what was the the house. occasion of his baste? said he, for sear we Mr. Gibbs. Tell the court what acquaintance should be stopped in our journey, as suspected Giles had with Father Lewis the Jesuit, since to be concerned in Mr. Arnold's business. executed. Recorder. What time was that?

W. Richmond. My lord, he told me he would Watkins. About the 5th of May.

go to the executioner, and persuade him not to

execute Mr. Lewis, but I had the executioner George Richmond.

locked up, and I would not suffer him ; but I Ms. Holt. Mr. Richmond, what can you did see him very active at the execution, dipsay concerning this thing?

ping cloths in Lewis's blood. Richmond. I desired Mr. Giles to meet me, Mr. Thompson. What do you say as to his that we might even our accounts; and upon coming to his lodging ? the 5th of May last he met me, and I desired W. Richmond. We went to several places Mr. Watkins to be present as a witness. that day, and at eight or nine, or between eight Recorder. Where was it?

and nine, we came to the King's-Arms in St. Richmond. At Uske. And as

Martin's Lane, and I left bim at the kitchen making up the account, said Mr. Watkins to fire, and went up into the chamber and drank Mr. Giles, Where is the horse hair you promi- a considerable quantity of drink; and as near sed me to make fishing-lines ? Giles replied, as I can guess, it was between twelve and one Ile left very good horsehair at a farrier's in o'clock before he came to his bed, for after Gloucester : and he asked him, Why he left I was going to bed, about one o'clock I heard it? He said, He made haste for fear of being John Giles come up the stairs, and bid me taken and stopped for. Mr. Arnold's business. good night; be called at my door just as I I cannot say whether he called him esq. was pulling off my breeches to go into bed. Arnold, or Mr. Arnold, or what; he seldom Recorder. What time was this? used to give him so good words.

IV. Richmond. As near as I can gues, it was

between twelve and one, or very near one. Waller Powel.

Recorder. At what house was it? Mr. Holt. What do you know concerning W. Richmond. The King's-Arms in St. MarGiles his being at the cutler's ?

tin's Lane. Powel. If it please you, sir, I was at the cut- Recorder. What did you say when the maid ler's.

was making the bed ? Recorder. Name the time when and the W. Richmond. I asked her who it was for? place where.

And she said, for a man that was not willing to Powel. The 5th of May, at a place called lie with any body. Uske iu Monmouthshire, Mr. Giles and I, we Recorder. What time did you come to the came there ; and Mr. Giles asked Peter Darcy, house? Whether he would mend him that sword or no? W. Richinond. About nine. But Mr. Darcy had some business that he could Recorder. Did you stay in that house till not get time to mend it that morning, but that time? would do it in the aftornoon. Says Darcy, W. Richmond. I lay in the house, sir. Where have you been ? you have been hot at Recorder. You were not out of the house the it. What, have you been fighting with the while? devil ? No, said he, with damned Arnold. W. Richmond. No, sir, I was not out of it.

Recorder. What did you say when the cutler Recorder. And you are sure that you did asked him, whether he had been fighting with not see him again till he came to your door the devil ? And he said again, No, not with going to bed ? the devil, but with damned Arnold ?

W. Richmond. Yes, sir, Powel. Peter Darcy said he must not speak Recorder. What time was that ? such words; and Giles's wife plucked him W. Richmond. Nigh one. by the coat, and bid bim hold his tongue. Mr. Thompson. You see the contradiction Mr. Darnal. Who was by?

between this, and what this fellow says upon Powel. There was one Peter Darcy.

his examination ; where he says he was a-bed Mr. Darnal, Was one Jobn Jones there? at nine o'clock.

Powel. I think there was another indeed Recorder. Where did you go at that time? by, the apprenxice.

Richmond. We went to Long Lane, to one

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