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Moor. I cannot certainly remember, but I time, and he would procure him his money; think it was in February, when I told him I so away we came down.

Said I, What do you would sue the bond, or have better security. intend to do in this case? Said be, If he do sue It was a small time after Candlemas.

me, I will do him an ill turn; and soon after Just. Jones. Wbat are you, a protestant or a he went to London, and said, he would go to papist ?

sell his land at Newcastle: and awhile after I Moor. A protestant, bred and born so. went out to see if he were come again; and

Just. Peinberton. He would have sworn it no meeting himn, it was wben he was going to Londoubt at that time, for he was under an oath of don again to carry on his design, said I, Robert secrecy.

Bulron, what do you say in this case ? you now L. Č. J. But you say August was the first are going to leave the country, and how sball I time that he discoursed to you that sir Thomas be secured against sir Thomas? Do not queswas in the Plot?

tion it, said he, for I am to receive on the king's Moor. Yes.

account 301.

L. C. J. Upon whose account?
Then Stephen Thompson was called.

Thompson. Upon the king's; concerning the Just. Dolben. Well, what do you know of taking sir T. Gascoigne. this business?

Bilron. But I never had a farthing of it. Thompson. My lord, if you will give me leave Thompson. But, said he, I will not take it, to speak, I know a great deal of the unkindness for another bids me 60l. and I know what betwixt sir Thomas and Mr. Bolron. He came Oates and Bedlow had, and I won't abate a down to me, he was sir T. Gascoigne's steward farthing of that. of his colliery, and sir Thomas liked not of L. C. J. When was this? his accounts, and turned him forth. There Thompson. It was after he had taken him ; was a great deal of money owing to sir Tho- and on Holy Thursday he did say, If he did sue mas, and he came to sir' Thomas to agree him, he would do bim an ill turn. about it, and he desired me to be bound with Then the Lord Chief Justice, being to sic at him to sir Thomas: said 1, Mr. Bolron, Nisi Prius at Guildhall, went off. how shall I be secured ? Said he, there is a

William Backhouse was next called. great deal of money, of which I never gave sir Thomas any account, I will gather it in, and se- Just. Jones. Let him ask Backhouse what he cure all; and so sir T. Gascoigne knew nothing will. of it. So bonds for 601. were entered into to Sir T. Gasc. I would ask hiin what threats he pay 281. at Caudlemas. So, sir, when Candle- gave to his wife to swear against her conscience mas came, and he did not pay the money, I and promise of 500l. he should gain by it. went up to him and asked him what he would Backhouse. I served the warrant to carry the do about this money, what course be would witness before 'squire Lowther and 'squire take to satisfy? Oh! never fear, said be. Why Tindall : I was charged the 7th of July last to said I, hath he any hand in the Plot? If be hath help fetch the witnesses before the justices, and let us know it; for he had made a great deal to iake sir T. Gascoigne, I and two of my sons, of his goods away, and then I thought I should and he opened the duor his own self. When not be secured. Oh, said he, he is siuless of it. we had taken bim, 'squire Lowther directed us

L. C. J. Who did make away his goods? to bring the witnesses before him, and we did Mr. Thompson. Bolron did.

When we came to Bolron's house, bis wife L. C. J. When was this?

was sick on bed, and I said that she must go Mr. Thompson. Candlemas last. For then I before the Justice of Peace_to swear against thought sir Thomas might sue ine for the money, sir T. Gascoigne for High-Treason: she said and I would fain bave known if sir Thomas bad she knew nothing against sir Thomas; but Bolany hand in the Plot, and I pressed him much ron said she must go, or he would have ber to tell me. Then it passed on, and having a writ drawn at the cart's arse. out against me, I durst not stir out myself, but I

Then Hamsworth was called. did send my man to bim to knowwhat he did intend to do about it: he told my man, Brother tell Justice Jones. What will be ask him? thy master be need not fear at all. Why,said my Sir T. Gasc. I ask him about the threatning inan, do you know he hath any hand in the of his wise. Plot?

Humsuorth. May it please you, my lord, Just. Dolbcn. That is but what your man the same day that sir Tho. Gascoigoe was taken said.

Robert Bolron came to his wife, and told her Just. Pemberton. Is your man here?

she must go to 'squire Lowther to swear against Mr. Thompson. No.

sir T. Gascoigne : she fell a weeping, and would Just. Dollon. Therefore you must not urge not go by no means; he threatened if she would that he said to you, it is no evidence.

not go, he would tie ber to the horse's tail. Thompson. On Thursday after I went up to Just. Dolben. Did he tell her what she should kim myself, and got him to go up to sir Tho-swear? mas; and so when he came to sir Thomas, he Hamsworth. I did not hear him, only to swear would give him no time but a fortnight to pay against sir Thomas. to money; Bolrou desired but three week's Just. Dobben. What she knew, was it?

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Hamsworth. Yes; and she said, she did not Gascoigne's; they were marking some sheep, know any thing of misdemeanour of sir T. Gas. and I was there most of the afternoon. coigne touching his sacred majesty, or the Just. Jones. Were you ever at his house at church government.

any other time to send any such letter? Justice Jones. Art thou sure she said those Mr. Bolron. I never sent any such letters words?

Indeed that day I was a little of the afternoon Mowbray. My lord, he is a papist.

at his house, but I staid there but half an hour; Humsworth. I am a Protestant.

but I was most part of the afternoon at sir Justice Pemberton. How long have you been Tho. Gascoigne's seeing them mark sheep. a Protestant? Hamsworth. I was born so).

Then Roger Gregson was called.

Just. Jones. What do you say to him? Just. Jones. Well thou hast added a few fine

Sir T. Gasc. Let him speak his knowledge. words that I dare say she never said. Just. Pemberton. Were you never a papist? tion, for he only generally refers to them what

Serj. Maynard. I desire be may ask the quesHamsworth. Yes, I was.

they know. Nicholas Shippon was called.

Sir T. Gasc, What did he say to you about

August last? Mowbray. This man is a papist too. Just. Dolben. Do you think he is not a wit- about August last, Robert Bolron and I, about

Gregson. My lord, I will tell you: We met ness, for all that? Sir T. Gusc. What discourse he had May discourse; he came from London a little be

a week before Bartholomew-day: we had some 30, the day after the race?

Just. Pemberton. Well ask him what you will: fore that, and I asked him how sir T. Gascoigne What do you say?

Just. Dolben. Was he apprehended in AuShippon. Mr. Bolron was with me the 30th day of May.

Gregson. Yes, he was in the Tower. He Just. Dolben. What, May last ?

said, well. I asked him how be would come Skippon. Yes, the day after Ascension-day: off about the plot (as they call it)? said Le, he he came to my house about two o'clock in the afternoon, and staid at my house all that after may come off well enough, but it will cost him noon while an hour after sun-set before he went they came to fall out? and he said it was long

a great deal of money. I then did ask, how away; he came and brought a letter with him of that rogue Addison, brother to the priest, to carry to Newcastle, and it was sent away who had called him to account, or else be never thither.

had done sir Thoinas that injury; and I supJust. Dolben. Are you sure it was the day

And then we after the Ascension-day ? Ilow if it should fait pose that was the cause of ii.

had some more discourse, and that discourse out another day?

Shippon. Yes, Ascension-day was the 29th of was this: be rides a little from me (he was on May; he came to me about two o'clock.

horseback) and came back again; said be, I Serj . Muynurd. Pray what reason had you of the privy-council made an attempt tu stab

can tell you, the king was at Windsor, and one to take notice of this?

the king, and the king made his escape, and Shippon. He came and brought a letter to me that was to go to Newcastle, and desired me

now they will believe my informations the

better. that my little boy might carry it to a kinsman's

Just. Pemberton. Go on. house of mine ; for he said, he was afraid of the bailiff, and did not care for stirring out; my

Gregson. That is all I have to say.

Just. Jones. What are you, a Papist? wife brought him some meat and drink, and he said it was better than he bad at home; and she

Gregson. No, I am no Papist, 1 deny it. said she was the more sorry things were no bet

Serj. Muynard. Nor never was ?

Gregson. Nor never was. ter with him. Just. Dolben. But how came you to take

Then James Barlow was called. notice that this fell out the 30th of May? Serj. Maynard. My lord, I conceive this

Shippon. The night before I met him coming man ought not to be heard, for he is under an from the race, which was the 29th of May, and accusation of the same crime; and we have had he asked me if I saw any bailiffs waiting for two orders of council to apprehend him. him ; and I said yes ; and he said, it was well Att. Gen. There was an order of council if he missed them; and he asked ine, if I saw within this fortnight to send for him up in cusBennet Johoson?

tody. Just. Jones. How long was it you say he staid? Just. Dolben. There is nothing upon record

Shippon. He came about two o'clock, and against him, and you may discredit bis testistaid till an hour and half after sun-set.

mony, but you cannot refuse him; he is not to Serj. Maynard. What religion are you of, come upon bis oath. friend, let us know?

Mr. 'Sol. Gen. (Sir Francis Winnington.) Just. Dolben. What say you to the truth of Bolron swears too, that he was at the consultthis, Bolson?

ation. Bolron. My Lord, there is not a word of it Just. Dolben. Let us hear him what he says ; true; for I was about two o'clock at sir Tho. we must leave it to the jury what to believe.

Serj. Maynard. They would question him | Just. Jones. For the jury must be told, that about Mr. Bolron's cozening, which ought not it is no evidence coming out of another man's to be.

mouth. Sol. Gen. This man hath-sworn against him. Just. Dolben. It is as if a man should come Mr. Hobart. Why did you not indict him, and say, I can say something to sir T. GasSir?

coigne, when I know nothing but what another Serj. Maynard. Sir, you ought not to prate man told me. here,

Just. Jones. Ask sir Thomas if he would have Just. Dolben. Come, I doubt you are a this Barlow examined ?-Sir T. Gasc. Yes. little 100 pragmatical.

Just. Pemberlon. Then what questions will Just. Jones. If you had any record of the you ask him? indictment to shew against him, we would not Sir T. Gasc. What conspiracy was 'had to examine him.

take away a great deal of money from me; and Mr. Hoburt. Will you ask bim any ques- how he concealed it, because he would not do tions, sir?

him a miscbief? Sir T. Gasc. You know, sir

Just. Dolben. What is that to sir Thomas's Serj. Maynard. That is not proper, he tells life? him what he knows.

Mr. Rudenscroft. I cannot tell you by bare Just. Pemberton. Look you, sir, we did not assertion, but if you will hear what I bave to intend that you should come here to manage all say, do. Last night, late at night, about nine as a counsel; it was said, he could not hear o'clock, Barlow came to me ; says he, Mr. well, and so you were only to tell him what was Ravenscroftsaid.

Just. Dolben. Come, do not tell us the preSir Tho. Gasc. I would ask him what he amble, but the story. does know concerning taking of money and Mr. Ravenscroft. Said he, I have a thing stealing from me?

that sticks upon my thoughts, which I doubt may Just. Dolben. But that must not be asked. endanger sir Thomas's life. [Which Hobart told him.]

Just. Dolben. Well, was it about taking Sir Tho. Gasc. Then you must tell me what money? I must ask.

Mr. Ravenscroft. Said he, If I am silent, I Just. Pemberton. Come, you have been prag doubt it will cost sir Thomas his life. Then I matical, sir, and made him a brief, and be can- asked him what it was ? says he, Mr Mownot manage it without you.

bray, who is a witness in this court, and I did Serj. Maynard. Did you write this brief? just a little before his going away, combine, or [Meaning a brief in Sir Tho. Gascoigne's hand. rather he did seduce meMr. Hoburt. No, an't please you, sir.

Just. Pemberton. Was it about money? Then Mr. Ravenscroft offered to speak what Mr. Ravenscroft. Money is in the case. this witness had told him.

Just. Dolben. He did conspire, what to do? Just. Dolben. Look you, Mr. Ravenscroft, if Mr. Ravenscroft. If you will hear me, I will what he says tend any thing to his business, tell you. that sir T. Gascoigne comes to know of his Just. Jones. Pray do it quickly then. stealing, and then turned him out of his ser- Mr. Ravenscroft. Did combine to rob sir vice, it is material; but if you come to tell a Thomas of a great sum of money; and whereas story here of another man's knowledge, we I held my tongue, thinking not in spill biis blood, cannot spend our time so.

I see now if I do not tell the truth, I shall Mr. Ravenscroft. It was not known but last make good his credit, and so endanger sir night to me; and it you will not let ine tell you Thomas's life.. what it is, how shall you know it?

Just. Dolben. Well, I will ask you, or any Mrs. Ravenscroft. He is a chief witness for my man alive now, two men combine to rob sir grandfather, and I desire he may he heard, for Thomas, whether one man be a competent he discovered it but last night to my husband. witness against the credit of the other witness?

Just. Dolben. If it tend any thing to this bu- He makes himself a rogue by combining, and siness, that sir Thomas turned him out of doors, you have made him a knave by his own conand therefore this man bears him an ill will-fession.

Just. Pemberton. We had as good hear Mr. Mr. Ratenscroft. I may perhaps err in that Ravenscrott, however ; but pray sir, make your word; be did not say combine, but the other story short.

seduced him. Mr. Ravenscroft. He came to me and said Just. Dolben. You have told a story to ne these words; I have kept a secret a long while, purpose. in which I have done very ill-

Just. Pemberton. You think it a fine thing to Just. Pemberton. Then it does not tend at be a catholic, and to appear brisk for them. all to this affair; for you must not come to tell Mr. Ruvenscroft. Who says I am a cathoa story out of another man's invuth.

lic? Just. Dolben. Pray sit still, sir, and be quiet.

Then George Dixon appeared. Just. Jones. Indeed you must be satisfied.

Just. Pemberton. If you have any other wit- Sir T. Gasc. What do you know of any connesses, call them, and do not spend our time. spiracy of these people against me?

Dixon. My lord, I was at William Batley's in Batley. And if it like your honour, these two August last at ten o'clock, and Mr. Bolron and gentlemen, Mr. Bolron and Mr. Mowbray, came Mr. Mowbray came in, and called for a flaggon to my house, and called for a pot of drink. of drink; and when it was brought, they tell Att.Gen. Do you not know this man neither! into a discourse together concerning sir T. Mr. Miowbray. Yes, I do, but I was never Gascoigne and my lady Tempest. Says Nr. three times in his

company in


life. Mowbray, I know nothing of sir Thumas but Batley. I filled them a flacgon of ale, and that he is a very honest man.

when I had done I left them. They began ta Serj. Maynard. He was not bound to tell discourse of the plot, and sir Thomas Gasyou what he knew.

coigne, and Mr. Bolron--Just. Jones. When was this, in August last? Just. Dolten. At your house'; where is your

Diron. Yes; but, said he, if I knew any house? thing against my lady Tempest, I would dis- Butley. My liouse is near the old church at cover it, for I would hang her if I could. And. Leeds. they sat down at Mr. Batley's house to cons Just, Dolben. Is that the same place the sult what they should do.

other man speaks of ? Just. Pemberton. Before you?

Batley. Yes. Says Mr. Bolron to him, Thou Dicon. Yes, I heard every word.

knowest that sir 1. Gascoigne hath been very Just, Jones. And what did they say?

severe against thee and me, and now here is an Dixon. They said they would meet at Mr. opportunity offered us to take a revenge upon Bolron's house ; and if ihey would complete sir T. Gascoigne, Mowbray replied again, As their business, they should be very well gra- for sir Thomas, he is a very honest man, and I tified.

know no hurt by him; but as to my lady TemJust. Dolben. Agaiost, whom?

pest, if I knew any thing against her I would Dixon. Against my lady and sir Thomas. hang her, for I would discover it. But thou

Just. Dolben. But you say, Mowbray said he knowest, says Bolron, that sir Thomas sues knew nothing against sir Thomas Gascoigne ? and troubles me, and if I do not make some

Dixon. No; he said he knew no hurt by what out against him, he will ruin me, and it them.

must be done by two witnesses. To which Mr. Just. Dolben. How came they to say they Mowbray answered again, How shall we bring would contrive their business.

this business aboutIf thou wilt but come to Mr. lou bray. What dan is that, Mr. my house, said be, I will put thee in a way to Bolron?

contrive it, and we shall have a considerable Bolron. I know him not, nor ever held any reward. And Mowbray told him he would such discourse,

come to him such a day. Mr. Mowbray. Nor I.

Justice Dulben. Was that man that went out Just. Jones. How far do you live off one from last, with you all the time they spake ?' another?

Dixon. Yes. Dixon. I live at Leeds, Mr. Mowbray knows Justice Dolben. He does not say half so much

as you do. Mr. Moabray. I do not know that ever I Justice Pemberton. Were you in the room? saw you.

Batley. No, I was at the stairs head. Diron. He hath drunk with me.

Justice Pemberton. What did you stand there Mr. Mowbray. I know him not, nor where for? he dwells.

Batley. I hearing them discourse of sir Tho. Just. Dolben. Wbat trade are you'of? Gascoigne, hearkened what they did say, Diron. A cloth dresser by trade, but I keep

Justice Dolben. The other man said he was a public house.

in the room with them; were you in the room? Just. Dolben. This discourse was at Leeds, Batley. I stood upon the stairs. was it not?

Justice Jones. Were you in their company at Dixon. Yes.

all that day? Just. Dolben. They say both they do not Batley. Yes, my lord, I carried up a flaggon. know you, nay, they swear it. And it is very of ale. like you were but very little acquainted, would Justice Jones. Was the door left open? they let you hear them talk thus?

Batley. Yes. Diron. We were as well acquainted as can Justice Dolben. Would any man talk in such be, but that he will deny it.

a place as this, that all the world may hear Alt. Gen. Pray what religion are you of ? them, when they are contriving to take away a Diron. A protestant.

man's life? Att. Gen. How long have you been so ? Justice Pemberton. You were in the same Dixon. All the days of my life.

room, Dixon, were you not? Att. Gen. I cannot but wonder at the strange- Diron. They were at the Grice head, and we ness of your acquaintance.

at the foot.
Mr. Mowbray. My lord, I have not drunk Justice Jones. But the other says he was at •
at that place which is near the old church at the top of the stairs, the head of the stairs.
Leeds, not this two years.

Diron. We were at the stairs-foot, and they
Then William Batley was called. were in the room.


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Mr. Bolron. In the time of August I was not upon the head of the stairs.

at Leeds, I was in Northumberland searching Justice Jones. Did you hear them down to for priests, and in the bishoprick of Durham, the stairs-foot?

all but a little of the first of it. Diron. We did stand there to hear them dis

Then Mrs. Jefferson was called. course. Justice Dolben. Could you see them where

Justice Pemberton. What do you ask her? you were ?

Sir T. Gasc. Pray be pleased to speak to the Dixon. Yes, as fair as I see you.

conspiracy and counbination against ine. Justice Dolben. Could they see you?

Justice Jones. Whose combination ?. Come, Batley. No, they could not.

mistress, what do you know? Dixon. Yes, if they had looked down. Jefferson. I asked Mr. Mowbray ove time

Justice Dolben. Wly then I ask you, Do what he knew concerning sir T. Gascoigne ? you think, if you stood in so open a place to And he said he knew nothing, but sir Thoidas be seen, and they had seen you, can you ima- was a very honest gentleman for what he knew, gine that they would talk so about taking away and the best friend he had. sir T. Gascoigne's life?

Justice Jones. Is that all you know? Batley. I do imagine they did not know I Jefferson. He thought he was wrongfully was there, nor believe any one heard or saw. accused. Justice Pemberton. Do you know how they

Justice Pemberton. When was this? Was came there?

this after the time he was accused by Bolron? Batley. They said they came out of Leeds, Jefferson. It may be it might be, I think it and said one Nr. Legat was to come that way, was in August. who they were to speak with.

Justice Jones. In August last ? Justice Jones. I ask you if you were in the Jefferson. Yes. room under them?

Justice Dolben. But you must needs know Batley. And if it like your lordship, I stood (it was the talk of the country) when sir T. at the stairs-foot.

Gascoigne was sent for up to town; was it Justice Jones. Just now you said it was the after that time? stairs-head.

Jefferson. Yes, I think it was. Justice Pemberton. Did you say any thing Justice Jones. Then you say, you heard to them about this?

Mowbray say that sir T. Gascoigne was an Batley. No; I did not open my lips to them honest gentleman, and he could say nothing about it, but I told it to a friend about three against him. or four weeks after.

Jefferson. Yes, ask him else.
Justice Jones. To whom?
Batley. To a neighbour of mine : I suppose

Then Matthias Higgringil was called. it was told Mr. Babbington.

Justice Dolben. Was he one at the meeting? Justice Dolben. Wbat say you, Mr. Bab- Bolron. He was at the sealing the collusive bington ? How came you to know of this? conveyance.

Mr. Babbington. Wher the commissioners of Justice Jones. This Higgringil is a Protestant, Oyer and Termniner were sitting at Leeds, there is he not? was one came and told me, George Dixon Bolron. I know not, I think so. could afford me something that would be very Justice Dolben. Come, sir, what say you in advantageous for the benefit of sir T. Gas- this matter? coigne.

Higgringit. To whom ? Justice Dolben. Who was that man?

Justice Dolben. What can you say to the Mr. Bubbington, Bennet Johnson, or Francis business about sir T. Gascoigne? Johnson.

Sir T. Gasc. Speak to the threatenings to Justice Dolben. Was that the man you take away my life. spoke to?

Higgringil. I have nothing to say to Bolron; Batley. No, I spoke it to a smith, one but Mowbray on the 25th of September last

, Richard Loftus.

being at an alehouse, Mr. Legat and he were Mr. Babbington. I will tell you another per- together, consulting how to disgrace sir Thoson I heard it from, that was Mr. Bailiff of mas, and take away his life ; and he calls me Leeds.

out to speak with me : now, said he, I shall Justice Pemberton. Well, was this the com- match them, for they have done what they could mon discourse of Leeds?

to disgrace me. Justice Dolben. He says so.

Was it then Justice Jones. How did he mean that? presently?

Higgringil. I suppose he had taken away Mr. Babbington. The bailiff did not tell nie some money and gold, and they spoke of il, so suddenly.

and that was to disgrace him. Justice Dolben. Would it not have been to Justice Dolben. Was it charged upon him? your purpose to have brought the bailiff bere? Higgringol. It was suspected always he had

Mr. Babbington. It was after the commission taken it away. of Oyer and Terminer that I bad it from him, Justice Volben. But was there any which was in October.

thing talked of in the country ? .


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