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Reading. My lord, I do say this, that what I | behind the Palsgrave-Head tavern to burn lave said is true; in the presence of God I speak | Westminster. it. The lords do know this, and the Lord of Bedlow. I acknowledge it; that was part of heaven doth know it, he proposed it first to me. the treason I was guilty of, and for which the
- Justice Atkins. It is to no purpose to talk king pardoned me. unless you can prove it.
Rcading. I desire to ask Mr. Bedlow's man L. C. J. Call your witnesses, and we will one question ; Whether your master, when I hear then. Will the jury give in their verdict went along with him to fetch the privy-seal for upou your bare assertion. We have heard you the 500l., did not desire nue to lend him money a great while ; if you will call any witnesses, do. for the privy seal ?
Sir James Butler'. My lord, I desire Mr. Wirgins. He said he had no money about Reading may be asked, whether 56 guineas him, and asked you if you had any, and desirwere not brought by himn to Mr. Bedlow, and ed you would lend him some; and then I said paid to himn for to lessen his evidence against I had some, and so he said no more. the Lords.
Reading. Was there any thing of the consi. Bedlow. I had sometimes two guinans, some- deration spoken of? times inore, but not any such great sum at once, Wiggins. I do not know that, I could not but I believe more, at several times; and he bear it. He spoke it in the open court, where told me that he had order to supply ine at any there were a great many by. time with what I wanted.
Reading. I have several other witnesses, L. C. J. Come, where are your wilnesses, that will give you an account, that when he Mr. Reading?
hath not had any money to pay a reckoning, Reading. Here is Mr. Palmer, iny lord. he hath had it from me at several times; and (Who was sworn.) My lord, 1 desire tliis ger- the very day when he had goi
this money, the ileman inay give you an account what Mr. : 5001., and it was laid upon the table in the Bedlow did say to mè concerning the borrow- room, in the tavern where he was, he did then ing of any money, upon the Tuesday morning desire me to let him have a guinea for to pay before I was clapped up: The Soth of March, the reckoning; and he would pay me in the as I take it, in the morning.
afternoon. Justice Älkins. That was Sunday.
Bedlow. I do not deny it, but that I have Reading. It was on Tuesday, my lords, the received several sumns of money, for he always day before he received the 500l
. I believe it told me, I must trouble nobody else when I was the first or second of April. My lord, this wanted nioncy, but him. gentleman was there in the room.
Justice Atkins. They who have to deal with Palmer. My lord, Mr. Bedlow at that time men of such art as you are of, must use some had twenty shillings in his hand of his mother's,
art with you. as he said : Mr. Reading came in, said he, Justice Wild. Did you ever promise to pay Mr. Reading, all my money is gone, and I have him back the money again? no more than this, and this I have borrowed Bedlow. No, my lord, but he was to have a of my mother ; with that Mr. Reading clapped hundred pounds a year out of every thousand bis hand in his pocket, and gave him iwo pounds a year that I should have from thein guiveas. God-a-mercy, saith Mr. Bedlow, lords. you are an honest man, ard my chief foun- Reading. My lord, I du here declare, that tain.
I never had any more from the lords in the . Sir Cr. Levins. When was this money deli. | Tower, than thus: I had from my lord Stafford vered?
six guineas, and I do not know I bad one more; Palmer. It was about three weeks ago. I had never from my lord Bellasis more than
Justice Wild. But he tells you, you were to two guineas; nor froin my lord Petre than five, have a sup out of this fountain.
and that was at the time when I carried liim L. C. J. He doth prove this (what use you the paper, which I will give your lordship an acwill make of it I know not,) That on Tuesday count of, by and by. I never spoke to my lord three weeks ago, which we find to be the first Arundel, though I met himn often ; nor with of April, he saw twenty shillings in Mr. Bed my lord Powis, than upon this account: Mr. low's hand, and he said, This is all the money Bedlow did desire me to go and tell the lords I have; and you clapped your hand into your in the Tower, That if they did well reward him, pocket, and gave him two guineas, and he he would make the charge he had against them said, God-a-mercy, you are my chief foun- very easy. My lord, I did tell him, This is an tain.
affair which I cannot in prudence deal in, for, Justice Atkins. This was after you saw Mr. said I, you are a designing man, and how you
will Bedlow eas for your turn. This makes against deal with me afterwards I do not know. Said you.
be, It is in your power, Mr. Reading, by this Reading. I desire he may be asked, whe-that I have said, to do me a mischief, because ther he hath not heard Mr. Bedlow confess that if
do discover what I bare said to you, you he hath had money several times from me. will be believed, but if I should offer this
L. C. J. Mr. Bedlow hath confessed it. against you, I shall never be believed. And
Reading. I desire hiin to tell, whether Mr. with all the imprecations in the world I do Bedlow did not confess, that he did lay fuel curse myself, if I did directly or indirectly of
fer to persuade hiin to diminish his evidence, nor indirectly, promise Mr. Bedlow sixpence. but be proposed it to me. But, said I, here is I went to my lord Punis, froin whom I never one Mr. Dugdale, and he may give evidence saw sixpence in my life, and he did declare to against my lord Stafford, though you do not, me, that he would not for any thing in the And whai will you do as to him? Believe me, world be guilty of the making him a promise of said be, that I deal intirely with you, ly this one sixpence (and this is certainly so); nevertuien : Did not Dugdale come to you to desire theless, if Mr. Bedlow will not go on to do me you to draw up his evidence? And so he did, a nischief, as hitherto he bath done, and shall my lord, and told me he would be responsible not go on to charge me unjustly, when I am for it. I told him I was unwilling to meddle acquitted, he shall find that I will do what shall with such an affair, but if he would come to be like a gentleman; but I won't promise one my chainber I would give him what leisure I farthing. bad, in order to the drawing up of his evidence L. C. J. You have said enough, Mr. Reading. into a method; but he never came. Mr. Bed- Rending: My lord Petre said he would give lor told me, said he, Believe me in all the rest nerer a farthing. by this token, bave a care of him, he is set on Justice Il'ild. This is against yourself. purpose to ensnare you. Saith be, Tell from Reading. I cannot help it, I did it to save De, he shall do him no harm, for he bath pro- innocent blood, God's will be done with mine, Eised to say nothing against my lord Statiord, I think I was bound to do this, and I had sinned bat what I will have hiin to say. I desire Mr. against God Almighty and my country if I had Bedlow will answer ibis upon his oath: Did I not done it. My lord, I did come back to Mr. ever know one Nicholas Jordan till you ac- Bedlow, and he did ask me if I bad been with quainted me with him? Had not be some es- the lords in the Tower; I did tell him, Yes ; tate in Gloucestershire ?
and I did ask him whether there was any body Bedloz. Yes, my lord, I did tell Mr. Read in the bed by him. lle asked me, Wbat say ing, that I would have such an estate settled the lords? I think I did tell him in very little tipoo me, of my lords, in Gloucestershire, and different terms from what I have now told you, bis words to me were these : That he had or- be it of what construction it will. And whereas der to draw blank deeds for the conveying of he says, that there was a thousand pounds and bat estate, which my lord would sign in writings to be drawn, I never opened my mouth days after his discharge.
to bion of such a thing. Reading. He told me, that for the other L. C. J. What say you to the estate in witnesses, he would do well enough with them, Gloucestershire? and desired one to tell my lord Statford, that he Reading. That was only to secure the 2001. would do so and so, let him have but a reward; to me, pro consilio impenso et impendendo.' end believing of it, I went to the Tower, I ask- My lord, when that was done, Mr. Bedlow was ed my lord Stafford if he knew one Nicholas pleased to tell me, for I must confess, he did de.. Jordan; he told me he did, he had been a site me to give him an account, and I did come tenant of some estate of his. Mr. Bedlow bid very late, as Mr. Speke says. I was in his ine ask him, whether he should not have a pro- chamber about an hour; it seems it was that vision of money secured to him out of that time that this gentleman, as he says, was there, farm. My lord, I told him I would acquaint but Mr. Bedlow not being at home, I went b's lordship with it. I did so, and my lord away; and being to give him an account next Stafford was pleased to tell me, that he would morning, it seems this gentleman was there not give himn sixpence; that he did value bim- also, for he hath sworn it; when I came I gave self upon his own innocency, and the infamy of him this account, and God knows it was no his accusers ; that if he should offer to give him other; nor did I ever hear talk of any deeds any thing, he should look upon it as the greatest drawing. part of bis guilt. But, said he to me, Mr. Read- Speke. Did not you say, that the deed was ing, this I inust confess, you have been often to be signed in ten days? with me, I am much indebted to you for fees Rruding. I did tell him, that my lord would for conuing to we, if you will but write a letter give me a letter, wherein he would promise me to me, that you are not able to attend my bu- to secure the payment of 2001. withiu ten days eness, and neglect other men's, at this rate of after his acquittal. being paid; and that therefore I should not Speke. I say what you said. You had orders take it ill that you do not come to me any more, to draw up a deed, from my lord of Stafford; unless you may have an assurance of being sa- which
my lord had promised faithfully to seal tisfied and rewarded for it. And, saith he, within ten days after be was discharged. thereupon I will write you this in answer, That Reading. It was only a deed for 2001. to be I will give you the sum of 2001. to be paid to paid to me pro consilio impenso et impenyou within ten days after my acquittal; and, • dendo ;' and to be secured upon that estate saith he, I will give you this assurance too, that in Gloucestershire. you shall have this 2001. secured to you, as soon Speke. Nay, I do not know; I heard no as ever you shall desire it. My lord, this being Larin there, the sum; but withal remember, saith he at the L. C. J. But what is that to Mr. Bedlow? same time, I do bere declare, and pray do not Justice Wild. Wby should you discourse fail of remembering it, that I will bot, directly with Mr. Bedlow about your pension?
Reading: My lord Stafford did say, When to him concerning it. My lord, I think it was you have the money, the 2001. do you dispose upon the Monday morning that I came to Mr. of it as you think tit.
Bedlow's: be was not within ; I then came to L. C. J. This is nothing to the purpose, but the Painted Chamber, and I was going up to an endeavour, by multiplicity of words, to make the House of Lords, and Mr. Bedlow met me us forget what has been sworn. Answer the in the Court of Requests, or the Painted matter of the paper whereby the evidence was Chamber, one of them, and this gentleman lessened.
was with him. And there he asked me for a Reading. My lord, upon this Mr. Bedlow paper : I had writ it out before, and it is this was pleased to tell me ibus in answer: That he very paper that is now with Mr. Clare. He would take their lordships' words; and bid me did desire me, after I had been with the Lords, go along with him, and he would go fetch that to deliver a copy of this to them to write it out: evidence that he had, and would put in such and I did so; and this is writ in the third perand such evidence, I should write, and he should son, the other was writ in the first person; and, dictate. I went along with him to York-build. I think, there is no other alteration in it. My ings, where he said his mother lay: and there lord, that which I did deliver to this gentleman he said he had left bis papers; but when he Mr. Bedlow, before Mr. Speke, was in the first came there, they were not there, but he told person, the other was in the third. What they me his memory should serve; and we went did with it afterwards, I cannot tell. My lor, back to the chamber. And, my lord, it seems after this the 500l. was received, and he prothese gentleinen were there before, and Mr. mised to pay me all the next morning, and Bedlow sent them away; and when they were prayed me that I would come to his chainber. gone, we went into a room together, where he But when I came I missed of him. His clerk did dictate to me every syllable I wrote. And told me, he was gone abroad. I came here to when he had dictated, and I had writ it, I read Westminster; and when I came there, I went it, and he read it again himself. Avd having up to the Speaker's chamber, to speak with perused it, he said, This is that which, I think, my clients there : but when I came up, the is kind to them; and this is that I can come off door was fastened, and I was arrested. My with well enough in saying it; for I can make lord, I have done; and let it be with me, or it out afterwards, that it was by hearsay. And against me, this is what I said to the Cointhis, saith lie, do you take along with you, and mittee of Secrecy; and I speak to your lordcarry it to the lords, and let me have their an ship under the greatest tie and obligation to
And this is that very paper that I did speak truth, in the world, that this is all I write in Mr. Bedlow's chaniber iy his direc- know. And whereas Mr. Bedlow did tell your tions, and dictated from his mouth.
lordship, that this writing that I have drawn Justice Atkins. And you
it to the was not as be directeil, but that I had carried lords?
it to the lords, and their lordships did correct Reading. Yes, I did. And, my lord, when it, and I brought it back again; that I did I had done this, I did ask him this question (I bring him another paper: that very copy which did not direct him any one syllable; but as he I writ out, in the chainber, in the third perdictated, so I wrote): what he had to say son, I have; and this that is produced against against my lord Bellasis, and my lord Arundel? me, is the first person, and I desire your lord
hat though he was resolved to be ships to look upon it, and judge whether there kind to those lords, yet he was resolved the be ang correction, more than the alteration of other should die. And he told me, That the the person. 4,0001, and the 1,5001. that was to be paid to sir George Wakeman, was to be paid by my Bedlow.]
[Then both the Papers were shewn to Mr. lord Bellasis. And, my lord, I hegan to write, and did write five or six lines here in this Bediow. Your lordships may see both these paper, and then left off. My lord, when I had papers are fair written, without interlining; but done ibis, I went to the Tower the first oppor- there were above forty interlineations in that tunity; I did come to my lord Statfoid, and I paper that was written in my chamber. shewed bim this. He told me, That he did L. C. J. This agrees with what you said befind that Mr. Bedlow would now begin to be fure, that when you did put in any thing that an bonest man. My lord, afrerwards I went was home, he would correct it, and say, thris to my lord Petre, and shewed it to liim; and is treason, and this will charge them; and so he did, at that time, my lord, give me five mended it. And it was patural there should guineas; and before that I never saw a penns le two papers: that which was to be kept for of his money in my life. I went to my lord the Lords, was in the third person, importing, Powis, and when I came, I found sir Henry that he saith so and so; and the other was io Tichburn in the chainber; and it being late at the first person, whicb was to be kept by Mr. night, and it being parliament-time, and I hav- Bedlow, for the helping of his memory, I heard ing persons that staid tor me, I did desire to so and so; that he might know how to observe be excused : though sir Henry was pleased to his contract. But what say you to this, that the walk out upon the leads, leaving my lord and first paper was, as Mr. Bedlow says, correctme together, yet did not I shew him any one ed, and had many interlmeacions, and camot, syllable of this paper, sor did I say any thing therefore, be the same with that you produced
He told me,
Reading. My lord, I hear it; I have but L. C. J. We think it not material; we overthis thing to answer, let it avail me any thing rule it not, but by way of admittance that you or nothing. I speak it in the presence of God, say true, (pray favour me) this paper is the very paper Reading. Pray, will you see, is there any vathat I did write out; there is no other inter- riance between the two papers ? lineation in it than what you see. It never L. C. J. There is only the addition of the went out of my hand, from the time of my words concerning my lord Bellasis, and that Friting it in Mr. Bedlow's chamber, till the was to strike terror in him, to make him coine time that I shewed it them in the Tower, and into the bargain too. I did deliver it to Mr. Sacheverel.
Reading. I desire Mr. Bedlow would look Justice IVild. Ay, but there was another
paper also : is this your writing, Sir? paper, there was a paper corrected according Bedlow. Yes, it is. to your intention; and then you caused this Reading. Since your giving me this paper paper to be wrote out, and it was never seen in your chamber, have you ever seen it till tosince.
day? Reading. No other, upon my word.
Bedlow. No, I have not. Justice Hild. But he swears it, and it is ob- Reading: Then, my Lord, I pray this; there vious to the least understanding liere.
is one Prickman a merchant in town that is Reading. My lord, I have only this to say, broke, he wrote to me for a protection, and I That it is not true.
desired Mr. Bedlow that he would help bim to L. C. J. But it is very probable, and it is a protection; he said he would, and spoke to sworn to be true.
the prince, and others of the lords, but could Reading. I can only say, It is not true. not get one, for I called upon him to know his
Justice Wild. I have one thing to say to you: answer ; but withal, told ine, he had a better with what colour could you justify what you did contrivance than any protection could be given to carry the king's evidence to the prisoners, if bin from a single lord, and that is this, that he it were no more than that?
would say, he was one of his witnesses, and that Reading. I have but this answer for that, I upon that account he would get him a protecdid not know it was a crime.
tion froin the committee of secrecy, and they Justice Wild. There is no mean capacity but would believe whatever he said to them. I told what knows that it is a crime.
him I did not know of what signification that Reading. I did look upon it as a crime if I might be to my friend; he told me, yes, for lie had not done it, and Conscientia errans ligat,' had given it to several already. I asked him, it was a point of conscience to me to do it. I how he could justify it, if it were questioned? did think it a duty I owed to God, to prevent Oh, said he, let him say any thing, that he hath perjury; and a duty I owed to my country, to heard some body or other, in a coffee-house, call prevent innocent blood.
My Lord, I never saw Mr. PrickL. C. J. Will you impeach the justice of the man since; but saith, bere, I will give you this kingdom in that manner? You are a man of the business for the protecting of him; and he law, don't you know, that no man ought to be under-writ this, as from Mr. Treby ; Pray, do of counsel for a prisoner in felony or treason, not fail to come to me every hour, to receive till they are assigned? And for you to carry the what orders the committee shall send to you by king's evidence to the prisoner, as you yourself me, that we may not neglect his majesty's speconfess, bow can you excuse it? And here are cial business; and if you do receive any let or witnesses that heard you contract with him to bindrance, by any person whatsoever, send to lessen his evidence, and cui bono ? _Was not me, and I will cause those people to be so sethis out of favour to the lords in the Tower, to verely, punished, as so great a contempt does get them off? Now you by multiplying your merit. This was, my Lord, before my treatdiscourse, instead of vindicating yourself have ing with the lords, in time, the 25th of March. spoiled the matter, and confessed that which My Lord, when I did find he bad got such amounts to the whole charge.
tricks and ways, I did apprehend and resolve Justice Atkins. And you confess you were to (pray give me your favour in the expression) have two hundred poupds from my Lord Staf- not to do any prejudice to the king's evidence; ford, which you were to distribute as you thought for my Lord, I do think he is not an evidence fit?
for the king, that does go about, by any indi. Justice Jones. And you have confessed, Mr. rect means, to commit a crime. But, my Lord, Reading, that not only you have endeavoured I think he is a servant to the nation and does to take off Mr. Bedlow, but Mr. Dugdale toa; a very good piece of service to the king, that for it was you first started that point.
goes about the taking away the guilt of innocent Reading. My Lord, I bave no more. I did blood. never desire him to speak one word less than L. C. J. Indeed, Mr. Reading, we must not the truth; but I did my endeavour to prevent suffer this : I told you before, that by such disperjury, and the shedding of innocent blood; course you impeached the justice of the kingand this I did as a good christian. My Lord | dom. If you had suspected Mr. Bedlow's hoI did desire also to shew you this paper, but nesty or truth, you should have gone to the you were pleased to over-sule it, that it should king or council, or the secret committee (they not be read.
are men of honour, and would have been as VAL. VII.
tender of mens lives, as you or any other man, quitted in proportion to the service he did them, but for you to do it of yourself, in this way, in lessening of his evidence, he should have a shews it is but for a plausible excuse to colour very plentiful reward. Thereupon, there arose your corrupt dealing.
farther discourse. Saith Mr. Bedlow, I will Bedlow. This protection was given us by the pot rely upon their promise, I will have somesecret committee, for Mr. Prickman.
thing vider their hands. No, saith Mr. Read. L. C. J. It does not appear but that Prick- ing, that they think not convenient. Saith man might be a witness.
Mr. Bedlow, I must go and deliver in my tesReading. My Lord, I bave but this, and I timony to the secret committee immediately, have done. At the time when I was taken, I and therefore, Mr. Reading, the writing must have several witnesses to prore it, that I was be made presently, or nothing can be done. resolved to give his majesty, or the secretaries, Why, saith Mr. Reading, cannot you put it off an account of it; and I did ask Mr. Bedlow till Wednesday ? No, I cannot, says he. Well for an account he had given against the queen; then, said Mr. Reading, I will go speak with and I had the paper by me, at the saine time the lords in the Tower, and I will bring you when I was taken: and I have several witnesses their answer, and be with you on Monday by me, to prove that at that time
morning. Afterwards when they went out of L. C. J. Mr. Reading, this is nothing to the the house, Mr. Speke, and the other witness, purpose ; will you have done? unless you can came from the places where they were privately speak to the fact you are charged with. The put, and they saw Mr. Reading going out. Mr. Court hath had a great deal of patience with Reading and Mr. Bedlow, within half an hour, you already.
came back again to the house, and were priReading. I have done, my Lord.
vate together. Upon Monday morning, Mr. L. C. J. Gentlemen of the jury, your pa. Speke was to watch, and see the delivery of tience hath been very much exercised already this paper, and he gives you a very rational by the long discourses Mr. Reading hath made; and distinct account, (and he is not a man that Ishall therefore be short in iny directions. He the prisoner can any way impeach in his credit) stands indicted for suborning Mr. Bedlow, in he tells you, He saw him deliver the paper out the evidence that he was to give, concerning the of his hand to Mr. Bedlow, and Mr. Bedlow Lords in the Tower, that were impeached of put it towards his pocket, but afterwards put it treason by the House of Commons and Sir behind him, and he followed him, and took it out Henry Tichburn. This is the substance of the of his hand. And this paper is here, which Indictment. There is an inducement in it con- contains the purport of the evidence to be cerning this horrid conspiracy, and the persons given against the Lords in the Toner; but so that have been executed for it, Coleman, Grove, minced, that it is all but hearsay, and nothing and Ireland; but as to that, it is admitted by will touch them, as to the matters for which Mr. Reading, and it lies so much in every one's they are charged: Here you have the paper knowledge, that it should hardly need to be under his own hand. proved. So then the question remains only a Now he comes to make his desence ; and question of fact,.concerning saboration of per- what hath he done? He hath made a very long jury; which hath been fully proved to you, not discourse, but no defence at all to the inatter only by Mr. Bedlow, who hath related the of the indictment. He says nothing against whole transaction, but also by Mr. Speke, who the credit of the witnesses, but hath confessed, tells you that Mr. Bedlow did inform him how in effect, the whole matter that he was charged it went from time to time: and thereupon, to with ; for what hath he to do, to carry the make the matter plain, and to suppress so abo- evidence to the lords in the Tower, and to go minable a practice, it was thought there was no from one to another, to tell them thus and better way to discover this deed of darkness, thus, and to receive promises from them of and to catch a knave, but to bring him into a rewards, either in general or particular? He secret place where he might speak freely, think- hath made confession of the whole of his ing there were no witnesses to testify against charge in the Indictment; and without it, him; which was intended to have been done the there is such undoubted testimony, nothing evening of the 28th of March, which was Friday. impeaching the witnesses, that I shall need to But Mr. Reading and Mr. Bedlow not then trouble you no further. Do you go together, meeting, the next morning at seven o'clock was and consider of it, and we will receive your appointed, when Mr. Reading did come and verdict. asked if nobody were there; of which being L. C. Baron. Gentlemen of the jury, it assured, he thought himself secure and secret. hath been so fully repeated by my Lord, that I Then Mr. Bedlow asked him, what say the shall not need to do any thing of that; but Lords in the Tower? What says my lord there is one little piece of the evidence, which Stafford ? Mr. Reading told him, that as to I desire you would take notice of: Mr. Bedmy lord Stafford, he should be sure of the low says, the paper given him upon Monday, estate in Gloucestershire, for my lord Stafford in the Painted Chamber, which he carried behad ordered him to prepare a blank deed, hind him, and Mr. Speke took away, and which which, within ten days after his discharge, Mr. Reading brought him from the lords, did should be perfected. And the rest of the contain ten times much milder evidence than lerds did assure him, That after they were ac- the paper dictated by him on the Saturday,