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May it please your lordships, and you gen- , formed, you will have the matter fully proved ; tlemen of die jury, I am of counsel for the kng and therefore we will call the witnesses, and in this case: gentlemen, this indictment is not let them tell you what it is they have to say. an indictment of high-treason, nor of mispri- Mr. Ward. There are some things laid in sion of treason; and truly the gentlemani at this indictment, that are 10 be previously the bar hath something wond erd at the king's proved, in order to the charging of the prilenity to him; the fact in the iudictment does soner; as the execution of Coleman, and the indeed sound of another nature, iban what it rest; and the impeachment of the lords. If bears the name of; it does in this indictment Mr. Reading stands upon it, we have those. carry the most moderate character that the here that will prove it." fact will bear : it is only an indictment of tres- L. C. J. Mr. Reading, those public paspass and misdemeanor, but it is a very high sages that are laid in the preamble of the Inmisdemeanor; it is to stifle the king's evi- dictment, do you insist they should be proved dence, and that not in an ordinary case, but first? where it is attended with the greatest aggrava- Reading. My lord, I am very willing to save tions that can be in any case whatsoever. If your lordship's time. a man should endeavour to stifle the evidence L. C. J. Do you admit that Coleman and in an action betwixt party and party, in the Ireland, &c. were executed for treasou ? Courts of Westminster-hall, for a business of Reading: Yes, my lord, and very justly. about 40s, those courts of justice would find a L. C. J. Do you admit that the lords in the ready way to punish him. This is a crime of Tower, are accused and impeached in parliaanother nature, for it is set forth in the indictment for this Plot? ment, itat Coleman, Ireland, and Grove had a Reading. Yes, my lord, I do. traitorous design in band, for the which they L. C. J. Then you ease thegs of the readwere executed, that is, the Plot; and when I ing those records. bare said that, I bave said all, that implies all; Reading. And, my lord, I do further
I you all know what was thereby designed. I do verily believe there never was a greater is set forth in the indictment, that such lords, plot laid in hell than this. I have abhorred it and sir lienry Titchburn, were privy to the in my thoughts, and have not only endeaPict, and accused for it, and to prevent the voured to encourage the discovery, but always eridence to be given against these lords, three gave it as my counsel, that nothing that was of them, (for the bargain was only made for true should be left out in the evidence. And tbree, riz. my lord Stafford, my lord Powis, I do, and will, save your lordship’s time as and my lord Petre; the rest were out of the much I can. bargain, and had nol, it seems, found out the Sir Cr. Levinz. Then, if your lordship way of commerce now used by these persons please, we wiil call our witnesses, and prove was this gentleman, Mr. Reading's business. the fact; and if there be any thing that Mr. It was to diminish and lessen the evidence that Reading doubts of, we will prove it afterwards. was to be given against them, who were Swear Mr. Bedlow. Which was done. darged and accused to be as highly guilty of Mr. Iard. Mr. Bedlow, I shall only ask the Plot as any that were executed for it. you the general question. Will you be pleased And when I have told you this, you will surely to tell my lords and the jury, what you know conclude it is an high offence, and an leigh of this business? tell the whole' story, what misdemeanor : for if the life of the king, if the ciscourse and bargainings there have been belaw of the land, if the religion established, if tween you and Mr. Reading, for the diminishithe setiled government be valuable; if your ing and lessening of your evidence. own lises, your own liberties, and your own Bedlow. My lord, Mr. Reading was alto. fortunes, have any consideration with you, this gether a stranger to me, till sir Trevor Wilis a very high neisdemeanor; for you must liams brought me acquainted with bim; hie look upon these as all at stake: this plot, as it was always very justio me in whatsoever he was laid, did reach to all: so that an endea- did for me, and wherein he was employed by Pour to conceal the evidence that should disme. I found him very honest, in reference to Cores, and thereby prevent the execution of so my own concerns. And though Mr. Reading horrid a conspiracy, is a very heinous misde- will bring a great many people, perhaps, that meanor; and you will easily believe, that the be hath pressed me to discover the whole of gentieman at the bar, the prisoner whom you the Plot; I do confess, he did it in a very are to try, had reason to doubt within himself, high measure in all public company, and that Aly it should be called so small an offence as I would not be baulted in any point: and for an tigh misdemeanor : but I will not, I need the discovery and convicting, and executing, not aggravate this oflence, and the rather be of those that had died about this Plot, he cause the gentleman that stands accused for it, never denied but they suffered justly and lawB of a profession (for which I am sorry) which fully enough; but in private counsels where obliges him to know and understand all the we have been together, le haih spoken to me agrarations of his own crime. I will not to he cautious. Indeed he hath never endeaopen the evidence, nor tell you what the wii- vovred to have me stitle the whole Plot, but hesses will say, I had rather you should have only for some particular people that he solicited is from themselves; but if I am rightly in- for; not but that he believed them guilty, as
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2. I think the other ti well as the rest; but he desired me that I was in their affairs. It was impossible I
fpes beiter than 1.0 would vot be so hot against them. And after should be so much a stranger to them, as I said
as a Fraday night; on! U: he had made me easy, (that was his word that I was, but it was because Mr. Reading had then
Q2902 Based of me the a he himself used) he would have had me made made me easy, and I intended to carry on the Mr. Dugdale easy loo. At several times, when intrigue with him, till it could be handsomely * Lagene, shere I bad, di
EN I Dan reals against we have been together, his very expressions discovered. But my lord chief justice asked have been to ine, Mr. Bedlow, Though there me whether that was all I could say? And I 4d lot wiferences did IP has been so damned a design on foot, and so told him, my lord, I have something more to **lo some of the 1 terrible a one, yet it is not for your safety nor say, when time and place require it, and when 1 cuncil, to tbe prince, i b
Assuun as ever I had, h credit to run at the whole herd of men : For I | I can be safe in telling it ; that is, when I bad
sa at ng about this matter, IP was this day, or yesterday, he said, with my found out all that Mr. Reading intended to do,
og pery sords, as near as I lord chief justice, and he told me, That at this how far he would go, and then I thought it rate that Mr. Bedlow accuses men, none are would be a proper time, when I could make ??? je prace, and my lord safe, for he runs at the whole herd; and seemed out some such information as I now do; but I
La pou lordstips are very to me to intimate, that my lord chief justice would not stifle that treaty that was between 12 rbd and my lord knew, € was not pleased with my forwardness. And him and me, about the lords in the Tower,
cib eral others, as coun- ! he told me likewise, You gain your point which I knew was of greater consequence than
LII, and several others, with the parliament, and with the king, and two old priests. After the dissolution of the with the kingdom, if some suffer, as I believe parliament, he told me, We must see other you can do it, and not run at the whole times and other changes, and that the lords did herd; and it is an indifferent thing to you, not think themselves in so much danger as when
ICLE di consequence should 80 you make the parliament your friend, by the parliament was sitting, But at several proving there is a plot, and the king your places, the Palsgrave-Head Tavern, and others, friend, in not charging all these lords, ana we have had discourse to the like effect. He you will make all the lords your friends, by your would very frequently come to me, and talk kindness to them. You shall take my instruc- with me about it. Now I asked counsel of no tions, I will never advise you any thing that is man, for I have no need of it in my matter; ill, but I will tell you how far you shall pro- it is not inatter of law, but matter of fact, that ceed. If you can fix any thing for them, you I am to make out, therefore I had no need of shall be sure to be well gratified.
his advice, but he would be at my bed-side very L. C. J. Did he name any lords to you? often in a morning, and before I was dressed,
Bedlow. This was the beginning of the dis. and then we used to discourse together about course, my lord; and I answered him, Mr. chis business, and the manner and form how it Reading, This is a very nice point, and I know should be done, and how well I should be rethem to be guilty of all the things I charge warded if I got off those lords; that is, my lord them with, and I can prove it. If your advice Petre, my lord Powis, my lord Stafford, and sir be so, I will consider of it. I think it was after Henry Tichburn ; these were the four that made the prorogation of the last parliament, and then the promises : but Mr. Reading solicited for the iny encouragement for discovery was not so other lords too; they did promise a noble great. But, said I, if any of them deny it to reward, but I could never setile or fix what it you, that they are guilty, then they must expect should be, but I should have acknowledgments no kindness from ine at all, for I will swear all both in money and estate, from the lords, for that I can against them; but if they acknow- shortening the evidence, and bringing them off
We had seledge that I do them a piece of service in not from the charge of high-treason. swearing too severely against them, then I will veral consultations about this. The Monday be ready to take your advice and instructions. that my lord Danby was sent for by the Black He told me many times, that sir Henry Titch. Rud, Mr. Reading came to me in the Speaker's burn did think he had seen me in Paris, but be chamber, and told me, Mr. Bedlow, here is a did not use this expression to me, Tbat 1 great turn, my lord Treasurer is sent for by the charged him with bringing commissions over Black Rod, and things are like to go quite from Rome. I answered again, You may tell another way. Well
, said I, when were you with sir Henry Tirchburn, if he denies any thing of the lords in the Tower? Said he, I have not me and himself a great injury. And to take I intend to go to-inorrow, and then I will bring out, for I am to give in my the fact that I have sworn against him, he dnes been there these two or three days, but said he, him off as an innocent man, I cannot do it, I you word what they say. And the next day, will never do it. But upon acknowledgment, I or the day following, he came to me, and told may do thein some kindness So likewise my me, that the lords did think, that I was in great lord Powis and Caryll. The gentlemen that measure capable of serving them now; and he most solicited for, were, my lord Powis, my they would have an account of what I could lord Petre, my lord Stafford, sir Henry Titch say against them, that so they inight view it
steel alsner, but pray pot burn, Mr. Roper, Mr. Caryll, and one Mr. and correct it. Accordingly he did go, and
personerif you can, Saith I, I Corker a Jesuit. And likewise he made me appointed to meet the 28th of March. I omit easy, upon that day that Mr. Whitebread and several other times that we had consultations, Mr. Fenwick were upon their trials, for I have and now come homeward to the husiness. Í
bu wall be sure to hear enough against them, because I could be no had then a command from the lords to inspect stranger tv Whitebread and Fenwick, two such the papers of the Spanish ambassador at Wild
2x to say, and you shall have considerable men, being so much concerned as House, and I could not meet Mr. Reading
4. Ldeed, my lord, I was Nr. Reading sbould do so, for a lespect for bim; and he did iwe advice in general, for ne Peat; only for some partiI'm sout me that I would be za ne did soacit ior. Upon the
v nas Saturday morning, i sin the room, be asked me, is at an orerhear us? I cold ? Ta bot. Now I bad planted tel: Speke, behind my hangBabes place in my bed, and 12, and covered him with the I did appear as if it were
2 and be could not perceive only there ; he would have cang-room, but I excused it badam Greves, who lay e, hand over-beard several dis
at with some persons there, Pod vot be safe, but he had
an,ber (not that she could biegal
, be it was to bring him
be cramended my caution, suh me thither; and his first
is there nobody that can su sert I, it is my concern to ei tai be private : but, said I, é ina a the Tower? What says e, at do they intend to do? I
Secret Committee of what las ten tbs night. And I can
hist bare iheit final anTay lesa what to say when I Serge Committee. Saith he, I
even er so long, but I will
eing it still Nunday. Well, free indi base all things ready, bersaing's I did stay till Monday,
SCIECT laew it all this
according to promise, and I think the other time ; and when I met him on Monday, I had witnesses will give you reasons better than I. ordered the witnesses that were by to over-bear This appointment was on Friday night; on us, to be present at the delivery of the paper; Saturday morning, be, having missed of me the accordingly they were there, and Mr. Reading Dight before, came to my lodging, where I had did bring it in his own hand-writing. placed Mr. Speke and my man ready against Readıng. What room was it you were in, be came. None of all these conferences did I conceal, but revealed them to some of the Bedluw. In the Painted-chamber. And as members of the privy council, to the prince, he gave me the paper, pretending to put my and to my lord of Essex. As soon as ever I had hand in my pocket, I clapped it with my hand discoursed with Mr. Reading about this matter, privately behind me thus, and Mr. Speke took I did write it in the very words, as near as I it out of my hand, and he and iny man wens coold, and gave it to the prince, and my lord into my lord Privy-Seal's chamber, and there of Essex, and I think your lordships are very they read it, and bad it three hours before I well satisfied that the prince and my lord knew ever saw it. Well, said I, what will the lords it. And I told it to several others, as coun- do?. Why, saith he, though I have not a full sellor Smith, Mr. Kirby, and several others, answer as to what they will do, yet you may wbo I was certain would be true to the secret, expect a noble reward; and I have order to fearing that Mr. Reading had laid a trap to draw up black deeds. catch ne with, and therefore I was very cau- Reading. Who did you give that paper to, tions, that no particular of consequence should Sir? be unknown to them. Indeed, my lord, I was Bedlow. To Mr. Speke; the rest will justify very sorry to see Mr. Reading should do so, for it, it is your own hand-writing. But saith I had a very great respect for him; and he did he, I have order to draw blank deeds to be use to give me public advice in general, for. signed in ten days after their discharge. And the discovery of the Plot; only for some parti- you may be sure that they shall be signed. cular people he did solicit me that I would be Mr. Reading, said I, this is but a verbal proa httle easy, those he did solicit for, Upon the mise, and they may perhaps bereafter charge 29th of March, which was Saturday morning, me, for all my bringing thein off, and do me a when he came into the room, be asked me, is great deal of injury. That cannot be, saith there nobody here can overhear us? I told he, my soul and my life for it, I have taken bim, no, there was not. Now I had planted their words, and, it ihere be any faith, honour that gentleman, Mr. Speke, behind my hang- and conscience in men, it shall be done : 1 ings, and made an hollow place in my bed, and dare answer for them. And, Mr. Bedlow, therein laid my man, and covered him with the your safety doth most consist in it; for as they rug so smooth, that it did appear as if it were must never be false with you, so they must but newly made, and he could not perceive never be at enmity with you; for at last, if there was any body there ; he would have you charge them with corrupting of you, you spoke to me in the dining-room, but I excused will be able to ruin them, and it will not look it, telling him, That madam Greves, who lay ill upon you, so much as upon them. But, take ia tbe next room, had over-heard several dis- my word for it, you shall have a noble and courses that I had with some persons there, worthy acknowledgment. I have authority to and therefore it would not be safe, but he had draw blank deeds, both for sums and estates, better go into my chamber (not that she could which they will settle upon you, and likewise hear through the wall, but it was to bring him a speedy supply of money, as soon as they can into my chamber); he commended my caution, get it in; for my lord Stafford said, he is now and came in with me thither; and bis first cutting down wood and selling it, and when he word, as I said, was, is there nobody that can hath raised the money, you shall have it ; but over-hear? No, said I, it is my concern to he protesis, at present he hath not now money look to sbat, that all be private : but, said I, to defray the charges of his family; but I have what say the lords in the Tower? What says order at any time to give you what you need my lord Stafford, what do they intend to do?' I for present' occasions. And indeed accordmast know speedily, for I am to give in my ingly I have had a great deal of money from information to the Secret Committee of what bim, several guineas. I had all I asked for, I cao say against them this night. And I can and many times gold I did not ask for; upon stay no longer, but must have their final an- what terms, other witnesses will prove better swer, that I may know what to say when I than I hereafter. When we had done, said he, come to the Secret Committee. Saith he, I Let me see what papers you have, the copy of will go and get their final answer, but pray put what you have accused the queen about, and it off till Wednesday, if you can. Saith I, I the lords, that I may carry them to the lords, cannot do that, put it off so long, but I will and have their answer. Said I, they are at my do what I can to put it off till Monday. Well, mother's. I must needs have them, said he. said he, on Monday you shall be sure to hear So, that I might give the witnesses leave to from me tben, and I will have all things ready, come out, I went with him to my mother's as to what you have to say, and you shall have lodgings, and pretended to look for them, but it from me. Accordingly I did stay till Monday, found them not, for none but the Secret Combut the Committee of Sccrecy knew it all this mittee knows what is in them. But when I VOL, VII,
had looked over my papers, said I, my brother, I were to consider how to have it minced, that
Bedlow. Yes, my lord, it was so. And that
Mr. Ward. Mr. Bedlow bath fully proved for now I am to have Mr. Reading's instruc- the discourse and bargain between tim and tions; if you will go before by water, I will | Mr. Reading, for the lessening of his evidence. meet you at Westminster by and by. Then I Bedlow. All Mr. Reading's words were, that locked up the street door, and came back to I would so shorten and lessen the charge againsa Mr. Reading, and then to work we fell to write them, that they might cume off. out those things that he and I did conclude L C. J. Mr. Reading, if you have a mind upon.
to it, you have liberty to ask him any quesReading. You say
you and I were then tions. alone, and your man gone away.
Reading. My lord, I humbly desire I may Bedlow. I said, that then you and I can do it, when the evidence for the king is all cluded upon what I should say, and what I given. should pitch upon they were to correct, accord- L. C. J. It is most proper to do it now. ing to what they thought would most conduce Reading. With your lordship's favour, I to their own safety. And when there were any have this reason for it, I do desire that the witwords that seemed to urge any thing home upon nesses may be examined apart. them, then he would tell me what was law, and Justice Wild. Mr. Bedlow, pray let me ask that, perhaps, would reach them, and then al- you one question. I am upon the indictment, tered it. And the Monday after brought a for the jury is charged upon that, and we must copy to ine, of his own hand-writing, far from jadge upon that, Was the agreement between the words that were set down in the paper that you and hiin, that you should swear what he he 'and I concluded of together, and delivered should direct you? it to me privately, and I delivered it to this gen- Bedlow. It was, to what he and the lords tleman, carrying it behind me thus, and he would direct. came after me and took it froin me.
Justice Wild. Did the lords correct your Sir C. Levins. Mr. Bedlow, this, you say, paper ? was for the shortening of the evidence; how Bedlow. As he said, they have done it. was it to be shortened?
Justice Wild. Did he acknowledge it? Bedlow. To take off the whole charge of guilt, Bedlow. Yes, he did. that I had sworn against them:
L. C. J. Mr. Bedlow, I don't understand that Sir C. Levinz. Did that, which you agreed you were to have any conference with the upon to shorten, take off from the treason? lords, but you were to be shy of that, lest it
Bedlow. That which the witnesses had in should be discovered, but what conference you writing did take off the charge of treason were to have was with Mr. Reading. wholly.
Bedlow. Yes, iny Lord, and he was to give Sir C. Levinz. Was it less than the infor- me an account what they would have me say. mation you had given in against them?
Justice Jones. Shew him the paper, I suppose Bedlow. I told him, that it was not delivered he will own his own band. into the Secret Comınittee, but indeed I had a L. C. J. Is that your hand, Sir? great while before
Reading. My Lord, this is my hand, and this L. C. J. I will tell you what I apprehend he is that paper that I did deliver to Mr. Bedlow did say; if I mistake, he will set it right. He before Mr. Speke in the Painted-Chamber. saith, When he came back with Mr. Reading, Ward. We desire it may be read, if your he found Mr. Speke and his man in the cham- lordship think fit. ber together; he asked Mr. Speke how long he Justice Atkins. Methinks it should be ma. had been there, and how chanced he was up so terial to read the paper that he gave to Reading soon? Mr. Speke said to bim, I have been bere first. ever since you went away. That, upon Mr. L. C. J. Have you it here, Mr. Bedlow? Bedlow's desire, he went away before him to Bedlow. No; he carried that paper to the Westminster, and they went together to con- lords, and brought me this again. sult, and great care was used, that they might L. C. J. But had you never that other paper not be bindered or surprized. Then Mr. Bed again? low was to pen his testimony, and it was to be Bedlow. No, I had not. carried to the lords in the Tower, and they L. C. J. Did you ever take a copy of it?
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va much larger tt tapa bere before you; b. kale De to go with that i iz did correct it ins actrected, I did brin ud delivered it to be wake, before hir. Speke. yer lordship’s favour
ons directions for giving mine what information 1 kae into ibechamber, bertered and others, that Milea at bis cbamber.
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Bedlow. No, I did not. But this is that cor- Reading. No, My Lord, but by my own inrected paper that I was to give in to the secret treaty. committee, and corrected by the Lords.
L. C. J. Do what you will, as from yourself. Sir C. Levine. We do prove it in fact, that Mr. Reading, your wife was with me yesterday, be had before given further evidence, and by and said, you could not get Subpena's for your this agreement he did contract to give less. witnesses; and I sent for the clerk about it,
L. C. J. Mr. Reading, what do you say.to and he told me, there never was any Subpæna's Mr. Bedlow?
denied you, but you might have had them at Reading. My Lord, if I have your lordship's any tiine. But what say you to this paper, direction that I may not examine my witnesses you of the king's counsel ? apart, I'll go on.
Sir C. Levins. My Lord, we do not desire to L.C. J. But what say you to the paper ? have it read without the other.
Reading. I do own the paper that was shewn L. C. J. Look you here, this paper must be to ine, is my haod, and that I delivered it to read, for we would see whether there was a Mr. Bedlow.
paper under your hand, expressing what eviL. C. J. Then it must be read.
dence Mr, Bedlow was to give in this matter, Sir C. Levinz. My Lord, we don't desire it and whether you did one way or other put any should be read, for we cannot shew the former thing in writing which he should swear, to lessen paper, that did contain more ; and therefore his evidence. As for the other matter of tamwhat will the reading of the latter, which con- pering, we shall bear from others concerning tains less, signify?
it; but let us have this read, not for comparing L.C.). If you do not desire to have it read, it with the other paper, to shew the testimony We won't read it.
is less in this than in the other, but as an eviSir C. Levinz. Mr. Bedlow's evidence is, that dence of the fact in itself; for we will expect there was a paper much more large than this, a good account from you Mr. Reading, what and yet both those short of the information he you had to do to prescribe bim bis evidence in had given in; now what will the reading of the writing; therefore pray read the paper. ode signify, without the other? L.C. J. Do you consent to the reading of it?
Then the Paper was read, in hæc verba : Reading. My Lord, I would save your time,
Lord Stafford, and make it plain,
L.C. J. Mr. Reading, You must not come to On discovery of the plot to me, I asked Harmake your defence yet, till the king's evidence court and Le Faire low things were to be manais over,
ged, they told me that his lordship was to be treaReading. My Lord, I do it to open his evi- surer, and he, and Ireland, and Coleman, had dence, and for your information. My Lord, money to defray all charges; I then said I never Mr. Bedlow charges me, that I did write in his heard that his lordship was engaged before; chamber, when his man and Mr. Speke were they said he had not been long concerned, nor gone, a paper that was much larger than the was he acquainted with the affair much; but paper your lordships have before you; he does that the money which was lodged with him was say that he did desire me to go with that to the to be disposed of by him for the use of the lords, and that they did correct it in several church and the Catholics, and they had bound places, and being so corrected, I did bring him his lordship up by sacraments not to discover ibis paper back; and delivered it to him in what the money lodged with him was to do till the Painted-chamber, before Mr. Speke. My the time of using it, and then bis lordship should Lord, I do pray your lordship's favour in it; | know what great trust he had upon him for when I bad the king's directions for giving in to them; and till things were ripe he was not to the secret committee what information I had be acquainted with the depth of the plot, for to give, I did deliver it into the chamber, where they knew he would never consent to the king's were Mr. Sacheverell and others, that very death till it was done. His lordship always paper, which was written at his chamber. My promised to be ready to serve the church with Lord, I have sent to him several times, that he his life and fortune. would deliver that to me in order to my own
Lord Powis. justification at my trial. - I did desire likewise that some other papers which I did receive That the Lady Abbess of Panthois told me, from Mr. Bedlow under his own band, and which That his lordship had sent his daughters over to would be very material to my defence, might be educated in the monastery, but that his lordbe brought to me, but I have not had the favour ship’s Lady had declared to her by letter, that of an answer from Mr. Sacheverell, to this very she meant them as pledges according to her bour. I do humbly desire that he may be sent promise, to assure her that her Lord was real Lo, for the delivery of them.
to carry on what he had promised concerning L. C. J. I do not know how we can send the introducing the Roman Catholic Religion for them, if the committee will not deliver them. into England. I brought over a letter from the
Reading. Will your lordship give me leave to Monks in Paris directed to his lordship, with sevesend to bim?
ral other letters to other popish gentlemen, tend. L. C. J. But not by our directiop, to bringing to the death of the king, and subverting of the them as by our command,
government ; but what was in that letter to his