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although they had been begun, they would not, perhaps, be able to carry to any practical or useful end.

Lord ELLENBOROUGH saw little difference in the two modes that were proposed. In his opinion a satisfactory arrangement could only be obtained by balloting now, and meeting on Saturday next.

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The Earl of DONOUGHMORE said, so many allusions had been made to what had passed in another, place, that it almost looked as if the members had been transposed from the one House to the other. In the place to which he alluded, they thought they had not sufficient reason to proceed, and they adjourned the debate; but undoubtedly that was no reason that should induce their lordships to stay their proceedings. They had nothing to do with what had occurred in the other House: an allusion to what passed there, if used as an argument, was most untenable and most unparliamentary. He must say, that if they altered the proceeding which they had last night agreed to, that of balloting this day for a committee, they would do so on no good parliamentary ground, but merely because they chose to truckle and bow down to the other House of Parliament Were they, because the other House had thought fit not to come to an immediate decision, as their lordships had done, to say, "Oh! now we cannot venture to proceed, the other House of Parliament having suspended their judgment,

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and postponed the debate, as they do on many other occasions, to another day?" It seemed, because the members of the other House had not made up their minds, or for some other reason had postponed the debate, their lordships were, therefore, to stop all their proceedings, the most solemn, perhaps, on which that House had been called on to decide, (taking into consideration the illustrious personages concerned), for many ages past. They were called on to forget their duty to themselves, to the importance of the subject under discussion, and the high dignity of the individuals connected with it, by immedi ately adopting, not the course of proceeding, not the opinion of the other House of Parlia ment for they had expressed none-but merely adopting the postponement of that which they had previously agreed to perfect. They surely would not be induced to do so, because the simple fact had been stated that the other House had not come to a decision on the subject, on which their lordships had last night promptly decided.

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The Marquis of LANSDOWN.-As a reproach had been cast against his noble friend near him (Lord Holland) and himself, on account of what had fallen from them, he felt himself called on to say that the accusation was not well founded. He, in common with the rest of their lordships, had a right, he conceived, to give an opinion on every part of these proceedings. Neither he nor his noble friend had expressed any desire to thwart the proceedings which had taken place in

the House last night. It, would be recollected that he had not proposed to change that proceeding, which could not now in fact be recalled. He had risen to express an opinion in favour of the proposition of the noble baron opposite, who suggested the propriety of suspending the ballot till Monday. The noble earl (Liverpool) wished also that the proceeding should be suspended, but in another way. Nothing was, however, said by any noble lord, as to the propriety of altering the course which had been marked out last night. What he had argued (and after what he had heard, his opinion was greatly strengthened, since the same feeling was expressed by the noble baron and the noble earl, and appeared. to be participated in by the whole House) was, that the proceeding should be suspended. It was more consistent, he conceived, with true dignity, to express that feeling on the first occasion, instead of making believe, by the appointment of a committee, that they were determined to go on, although circumstances might occur which might call on them to undo all that had previously been done. He lamented that he differed from his noble friend, but he wished him to understand distinctly what the grounds of that difference were.

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Their lordships then divided. The numbers

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Contents,- Present, 82-Proxies, 26 108 Non-Contents, Present, 26 +Proxies, 3-29

Majority for the Earl of Liverpool's motion

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79

A committee of scrutiny was then appointed to inspect the balloting-glasses. In a shorttime they returned to the House, when their chairman, the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, stated that the majority of suffrages had been given to the following peers :—

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Ir seems unnecessary to continue our extracts from the debates, "seriatim," but with a view of shewing how inconsistent, as well as arbitrary, has been the conduct of ministers towards her Majesty, we would observe, that the discussion of his Majesty's message, which so peremptorily was fixed for Monday, the 12th of June, was deferred till the following Friday, upon the motion of Lord Castlereagh himself.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-12th June.

Lord CASTLEREAGH said-" I rise, for the purpose of moving the order of the day for the further consideration of his Majesty's most gracious message, with a view to its postponement until Friday next. In moving this adjournment, I trust the House will feel that it would be unbecoming in me to state any thing that has passed during the discussion, (cheers) or to say a single word, as on the former occasion, as to the situation in which matters now stand. (hear, hear.) But I entreat hon. gentlemen to keep themselves and their impressions on the subject precisely in the same state, until a full explanation shall be given as to the position in which the great question may ultimately stand. In proposing to the House Friday next for the postponement of the order of the day, I mention it as the most convenient day. On Thursday his Majesty's birth will be celebrated, and it has been usual for the House to adjourn over that occasion, and I would rather take a later than an earlier period for the further discussion of this important matter. These successive adjournments ought to be viewed, not only as satisfactory to the House, but as material to the public interest, in order that the real state of the question may be made known as early as possible. (hear.) Before I sit down, I have to beg the noble lord (J. Russell,) who has already shown so much indulgence for the more convenient arrangement of public busi

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