banish God from your ecclesiastical constitution, and freedom from your political. In vain shall men endeavour to make this the cause of the church; they aggravate the crime by the endeavour to make their God their fellow in the injustice. Such rights are the rights of ambition : they are the rights of conquest: and, in your case, they have been the rights of suicide. They begin by attacking liberty; they end by the loss of empire.

In all matters where the legislature interferes, you will take care to distinguish between nomination and eligibility. Nomination is the right of the person who nominates, and eligibility of the person who is nominated.

Eligibility is a common-law right, and can only be taken away by act of parliament: but parliament can only take it away

for crimes or anfitness : religion is neither. You cannot take away eligibility, which is a common-law right, on account of religion, which is a right also.

The clause of disqualification consists of three heads: the superstition of the eucharist; the adoration of the Mother of God; and the Papal power.

The two first are merely matters of religion, which the state has no right to investigate, and such as form an objection, which must be, and which is, for the most part entirely abandoned. Two parts of the objection, then, are disposed of; and a third only remains ; and that third, namely, the power of the Pope, is reduced to a mere spiritual authority: nor are the arguments founded, which say, that spiritual and temporal power are inseparable ; and which instance, as proof of their inseparability, marriage and excommunication. There is no solidity in their observation nor their instance, inasmuch as marriage is a civil contract; and all its consequences, inheritance, and legitimacy, and so forth, depend on the civil quality of that contract, and cannot be affected by a spiritual connexion, of which the law has no conception, and to establish which no evidence is admissible. This matter has been settled by the act which allows Catholics to be on juries, and therefore allows them safe and competent to try the validity of marriage. The same may be said of excommunication, which is an authority which cannot be enforced ; attended by an obedience which cannot be commanded, the ecclesiastic who attempte to enforce such a power, is subject to a prosecution ; and the parishioner who is injured is entitled to damages, and damages have been given accordingly. To this objection there are further answers : the law and the fact. The law, which has made the distinction between temporal and spiritual, and has (see 14th and 15th of the king) reduced that distinction to an oath, to be taken

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by Catholics under the authority of an act of parliament. It is remarkable, that in our dealings with the Catholics, the arguments of their opponents have been answered by their laws. They say, the Catholics are not credible on their oaths; and they have made, by act of parliament, their oath the test of allegiance. They say, that temporal and spiritual power are inseparable; and they have made them distinct by act of parliament. They say, that the disqualifying oath is a fundamental part of the law of the land; and they have declared by the fourth article of the act of Union, that oath to be provisionary, not fundamental. They say, that by the constitution the Catholics should have no political power; and they have made them by act of parliament, that is, by the act of Union, a part of the Commons, that is, of the third estate of the empire. Thus, they speak to the Catholic with a double tongue, and then most piteously exclaim: “These Romanists will keep no faith with heretics”. In further answer to their objection, which confounds spiritual with temporal, power, and which supposes the Pope to divide with the prince the allegiance of his subjects, we have the fact as well as the law. Let the princes of Europe tell how far the Pope has shared or divided the loyalty of their Catholic subjects. Let the Pope declare how far he commanded the allegiance of the Roman Catholics in Europe, when he was dragged from his palace - this dreaded interpreter of the Scriptures, and this joint proprietor of allegiance, dragged to Paris through an immense extent of Catholic country, at the wheels of the car of a Catholic prince, without a sword in his support, or an arm to defend him! Or say, what succour has he in all his afflictions experienced, except when, on the shoulders of the Protestant government of England, this unhappy old man was supported, an image of frail fortune and extinguished authority, until he was finally resigned to captivity and oblivion, the sole attendants on his state, without an effort to restore, or a partizan to console him, “more formidable than ever", exclaims the petition of Cambridge; and on this solid observation piously prays the legislature to impose on four millions of her fellow-subjects eternal disabilities. To this learned university how formidable then must the house of Bourbon appear. Like the Pope, that house has lost its dominions. How formidable Ferdinand of Spain ; like the Pope, he has lost his liberty, and is possessed of all the resources that proceed from captivity and deposition. How criminal must our government appear, according to this reasoning, who pay above £20,000,000 to support in Spain and Portugal the respective governments in church as well as state, and of course, are contending to set up again the powers of France, in the person of the Pope, now represented to be more formidable than ever. See then how your right stands; of three objections, two are abandoned; the third reduced to a spiritual, and that spiritual power now reduced to nothing !

You profess to tolerate religion; you do not tolerate religion when you punish it. Disability is punishment; it is a punishment in a very high degree. You cannot say, that an application to get rid of that punishment is an application for power; it is an application for protection. Civil capacities are defence; they are necessary to protect the Catholic against the injustice of a partial trial; they are necessary to protect him against the hardships of being taxed and bound by a body of which he constitutes no part: when the Catholics desire eligibility to the office of sheriff, they desire a protection against juries exclusively Protestant, modelled by a party sheriff; they desire that their lives and properties may not be tried exclusively by those who disqualify them. If this be ambition, it is the ambition of not being hanged by a party jury, the ambition of not being robbed by a party sheriff packing a party jury. On a question touching Catholic claims, the Roman Catholics have not now a fair trial in Ireland; in a case between Catholics and Protestants they have not the benefits even which foreigners possess. I do not say this applies to ordinary cases, but I do say that where there is a question touching their exertions to obtain civil privileges, they have not a fair trial. How many Catholics were jurymen on the late trials for the violation of the convention acts ? not one; they are not only deprived of the great executive offices of their country, but of the great protective principles by which their lives and properties shall be defended. They are excluded from the office of sheriff by which juries are empannelled, and from that legislative body by which taxes are imposed. Gentlemen call for security; we call for security;

we call for security against a policy which would make the British name in Ireland odious; we call for security against a policy which would make the British faith in Ireland equivocal; we call for security against a policy which would disinherit, disqualify, and palsy a fourth part of the empire,

When gentlemen on the other side call for security, let them state the danger : does the danger consist in the eucharist, or in the political consequences attending the real presence ? does the danger exist in worship of the Virgin Mary? does the danger exist in an Attachment to the house of Stuart? Let the opponents give us some

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serious reason ; let them afford us some apology to after ages for inflicting on a fourth of our fellow-subjects political damnation to all eternity. They have but one danger to state; let us hear it; it is the Pope, and the influence of France upon that power.

He has at present no power; France has no influence over him, and the Irish Catholic no communication; the danger, therefore, is prospective. What securities have they taken against it? domestic nomination ? No, they have declared it impracticable and inadequate. You might have had the veto; you might have had it in 1801, when you had the Pope in your power ; you might have had it in 1805, when you rejected Mr. Fox's proposition; and I believe you might have had it in 1808; but you lost it. Well, domestic nomination they say will not do; the veto, they say, will not do.

Have they any other measure? Do they propose a plan for making proselytes? Do they propose to discontinue recruiting from the Catholic body? They have no plan but-civil disabilities, that is to say, national disqualification is the odium of the British name, and the hostility of the Irish people, and what is that but ultimate separation ? Separation in fact, or separation in disposition. They have talked much of the security of the church, much of the security of the state, and much of the necessity to fortify both; and the only security they propose for either is virtual or actual separation. For this, the church has been expected to preach, and the people to petition. They tell you, that there is a great danger in the relative situation of the Pope with regard to France; they suggest to you, of course, that some remedy is necessary, and they produce a remedy which does not act upon the disease, but is of itself another disorder, that goes to the dissolution of the empire. For this has Oxford, for this has Cambridge, petitioned, with good intentions I must suppose; but they have petitioned for the dismemberment of the empire.

Sensible of this, the people have not crowded your table with applications against the Catholics; on the contrary, the property and the Protestant interest of Ireland have petitioned for them; and, in addition to this, a number of leading characters in England have declared they cannot accept of office without taking measures for the relief of the Catholics. This is a great security; in this security, with other circumstances, I would advise the Catholics to place much confidence. Nothing could be more fatal to their cause than despair: they may be certain that their application must ultimately succeed, and that nothing can add to its natural strength more than the temper with which it is conducted.

I know the strength of the cause I support; it must appeal to all the quarters of the globe; and it will walk the Earth and flourish, when dull declamation shall be silent, and the pert sophistry that opposed it shall be forgotten in the grave. I canuot think that the civil capacities of millions, coupled with the cause of this empire, which is involved in their fate, shall owe their downfall to folly and inauition. As well night I suppose the navy of England to be blown out of the ocean by a whirlwind raised by witches, or that your armies in Spain and Portugal should be laid prostrate by Harlequin and his wooden sword, as that such interests as I now support should be overturned by a crew of quaint sophisters, or by ministers, with the aid of a few studious but unenlightened ecclesiastics, acting under the impulse of interest and the mask of religion. The people, if left to themselves and their good understanding, will agree; it is learned ignorance only that would sever the empire.

As the call of the House may have brought together many gentlemen who did not attend the former debates on the subject, I beg to apprise them of some further objectious with which they must expect to be encountered. They will be told, that the people of Ireland are base and barbarous, and are not equal to the exercise of civil capacities; that is, that the first order of Catholic gentlemen in Ireland, who are to be affected by the repeal of these laws, are base and barbarous; that is to say, that in the course of 600 years, the British government in Ireland has made the people of that country base and barbarous, or, in other words, that your governmert has been in Ireland a public calamity. They state the Christian religion, as exercised in Ireland by the majority of the people, to be another cause of this evil; and thus they suggest, as the only remedy, the adoption of a measure which would banish from that island her government and her religion. The folly, the indecency, and the insanity, of these objections do not deserve an answer.

They will tell you, moreover, that the spirit of the act of settlement, which deposed the reigning prince for his attack on civil and religious liberty, commits the very crime it punishes, and goes to deprive of civil liberties one-fourth of your fellow-subjects for ever. Desire those men who tell you so, to show the clause in the act of settlement of such an import; and ask them why they, in defiance of an express provision in the act, raise foreign Catholics to the highest rank in the army? Ask them why the eucharist, which overpowers the understanding, as they suppose, of Lord Fingall or Sir Patrick Bellew, has no effect on these foreigners? and why they abandon their prejudices in favour of strangers, and advance them