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too late to cavil on doctrinal points, when we must lentment. They are not allowed the free exercise unite in defence of things more important than the of their religion in the regular army; the Catholic mere ceremonies of religion. It is indeed singular, soldier cannot absent himself from the service of that we are called together to deliberate, not on the Protestant clergyman, and unless he is quarthe God we adore, for in that we are agreed; not tered in Ireland, or in Spain, where can he find about the king we obey, for to him we are loyal; cligible opportunities of attending his own? The but how far a difference in the ceremonials of permission of Catholic chaplains to the Irish miworship, how far believing not too little, but too litia regiments was conceded as a special favour, much (the worst that can be imputed to the Catho- and not till after years of remonstrance, although lics), how far too much devotion to their God may an act, passed in 1793, established it as a righi. incapacitate our fellow-subjects from effectually But are the Catholics properly protected in Ireland? serving their king.

Can the church purchase a rood of land whereon Much has been said, within and without doors, to erect a chapel ? No! all the places of worship of church and state; and although those venerable are built on leascs of trust or sufferance from the words have been too often prostituted to the most laity, easily broken and often betrayed. The modespicable of party purposes, we cannot hear them ment any irregular wish, any casual caprice, of the too often; all, I presume are the advocates of church benevolent landlord meets with opposition, the and state,-The church of Christ, and the state of doors are barred against the congregation. This Great Britain; but not a state of exclusion and has happened continually, but in no instance more despotism, not an intolerant church, not a church claringly than at the town of Newton-Barry, in the militant, which renders itself liable to the very county of Wexford. The Catholics, enjoying no objection urged against the Romish communion, regular chapel, as a temporary expedient hired and in a greater degree, for the Catholic merely two barns, which, being thrown into one, served withholds its spiritual benediction (and even that for public worship. At this time, there was quaris doubtful), but our church, or rather our church- tered opposite to the spot an officer whose mind men, not only refuse to the Catholic their spiritual appears to have been deeply imbued with those frace, but all temporal blessings whatsoever. I prejudices which the Protestant pelilions now wasan observation of the great Lord Peterborough, on the table prove to have been fortunately eramade within those walls, or within the walls where dicaled from the more rational portion of the the Lords then assembled, that he was for a “par-people; and when the Catholics were assembled liamentary king and a parliamentary constitution, on the Sabbath as usual, in peace and good-will but not a parliamentary God and a parliamentary towards men, for the worship of their God and religion.” The interval of a century has not weak- yours, they found the chapel door closed, and ened the force of the remark. It is indeed lime were told that if they did not immediately retire that we should leave off these petty cavils on fri- (and they were told this by a ycoman officer and a volous points, these Lilliputian sophistries, whether magistrale), the riot act should be read, and the

eggs are best broken at the broad or narrow assembly dispersed at the point of the bayonet ! end."

This was complained of to the middle-man of goThe opponents of the Catholics may be divided vernment, the secretary at the Castle, in 1806, and into two classes ; those who assert that the Catho-lhe answer was (in lieu of redress), that he would lics have too much already, and those who allege cause a letter to be written to the colonel, 10 prethat the lower orders, at least, have nothing more vent, if possible, the recurrence of similar dislo require. We are told by the former, that the turbances. Upon this fact, no very great stress Catholics never will be contented: by the latter, need be laid ; but it tends lo prove that wbile the that they are already loo happy. The last paradox Catholic church has not power to purchase land for is sufficiently refuted by the present as by all past its chapels to stand upon, the laws for its prolecpetitions; it might as well be said, that the negroes lion are of no avail. In the mean time, the Cadid not desire to be emancipated: but this is an tholics are at the mercy of every “pelting petly unfortunate camparison, for you have already de- officer,” who may choose to play his “fanlastic livered them out of the house of bondage without tricks before high heaven,” to insult his God, and any petition on their part, but many from their injure his fellow-creatures. task-masters to a contrary effect; and for myself, Every school-boy, any foot-boy (such have held when I consider this, I pity the Catholic peasantry commissions in our service), any foot-boy who can for not having the good fortune to be born black. exchange his shoulder-knot for an epaulette, may But the Catholics are contented, or at least oughi perform all this and more against the Catholic, by to be, as we are told: 1 shall, therefore, proceed virtue of that very authority delegated to him by to touch on a few of those circumstances which so bis sovereign, for the express purpose of defending marvellously contribute to their exceeding con- his fellow-subjects to the last drop of his blood.

our

without discrimination or distinction between Ca- In the conduct pursued towards Maynooth coltholic and Protestant.

lege, every thing is done to irritate and perplex.Have the irish Catholics the full benefit of trial by every thing is done to efface the slightest impresjury? They have not; they never can have, untilsion of gratitude from the Catholic mind; the very they are permitted to share the privilege of serving hay made upon the lawn, the fat and tallow of the as sheriffs and under-sheriffs. Of this a striking beef and mution allowed, must be paid for and example occurred at the last Enniskillen assizes. accounted upon oath. It is true, this economy in A yeoman was arraigned for the murder of a Ca- miniature cannot sufficiently be commended, partholic named Macvournagh: three respectable un- ticularly at a time when only the insect defaulters contradicted witnesses deposed that they saw the of the Treasury, your Hunts and your Chionerys, prisoner load, take aim, fire at, and kill the said when only those “gilded bugs” can escape the Macvournagh. This was properly commented on microscopic eye of ministers. But when you come by the judge: but to the astonishment of the bar, forward, session after session, as your paltry pitand indignation of the court, the Protestant jury tance is wrong from you with wrangling and reacquilled the accused. So glaring was the partia-luctance, to boast of your liberalily, well might the lity, that Mr. Justice Osborne felt it his duty to bind Catholic exclaim, in the words of Prior :over the acquitted, but not absolved, assassin in

• To John I owe some obligation, large recognizances; thus for a time taking away

But John unluckily thinks fil his license to kill Catholics.

To publish it to all the nation, Are the very laws passed in their favour ob

So John and I are more than quit." served? They are rendered nugatory in trivial as Some persons have compared the Catholics to in serious cases. By a late act, Catholic chaplains the beggar in Gil Blas: who made them beggars ? are permitted in gaols, but in Fermanagh county Who are enriched with the spoils of their ancesthe grand jury lately persisted in presenting a sus- tors? And cannot you relieve the beggar, when pended clergyman for the office, thereby evading your fathers have made him such ? If you are the statute, notwithstanding the most pressing re- disposed to relieve him at all, cannot you do it monstrances of a most respectable magistrate, without flinging your farthings in his face ? As a named Fletcher, to the contrary. Such is law, contrast, however, to this beggarly benevolence, such is justice, for the happy, free, contented Ca- let us look at the Protestant Charler Schools; to tholic!

them you have lately granted 41,0001.: thus are It has been asked, in another place, Why do not they supported, and how are they recruited ? Monthe rich Catholics endow foundations for the edu-tesquieu observes on the English constitution, that cation of the priesthood ? Why do you not permit the model may be found in Tacitus, where the them to do so? Why are all such bequests sub- historian describes the policy of the Germans, and ject to the interference, the vexatious, arbitrary, adds, “This beautiful system was taken from the peculating interference of the Orange commis- woods;" so, speaking of the charter schools, it may sioners for charitable donations ?

be observed, that this beautiful system was taken As lo Maynooth college, in no instance, except from the gipsies. These schools are recruited in at the time of its foundation, when a noble Lord the same manner as the Janissaries at the time of Camden), at the head of the Irish administration, their enrolment under Amurath, and as the gipsies did appear to interest himself in its advancement; of the present day, with stolen children, with and during the government of a noble Duke (Bed-children decoyed and kidnapped from their Caford), who, like his ancestors, has ever been the tholic connections by their rich and powerful Profriend of freedom and mankind, and who has not testant neighbours: this is notorious, and one inso far adopted the selfish policy of the day as to stance may suffice to show in what manner:- The exclude the Catholics from the number of his fel- sister of a Mr. Carthy (a tholic gentleman of very low-creatures; with these exceptions, in no in- considerable property) died, leaving two girls, who stance has that institution been properly encou- were immediately marked out as proselytes, and raged. There was indeed a time when the Catholic conveyed to the charter school of Coolgreny; their clergy were conciliated, while the Union was pend- uncle, on being apprised of the fact, which took ing, that Union which could not be carried without place during his absence, applied for the restituthem, while their assistance was requisite in pro- lion of his nieces,offering to settle an independence curing addresses from the Catholic counties; then on these his relations; his request was refused, they were cajoled and caressed, feared and flat- and not till after five years'struggle, and the intertered, and given to understand that "the Union ference of very high authority, could this Catholic would do every thing;” but the moment it was gentleman oblain back his nearest of kindred from passed, they were driven back with contempt into a charity charter school. In this manner are protheir former obscurity.

selytes obtained, and mingled with the offspring of such Protestants as may avail themselves of the in- i worthy to be any thing but the slaves you have stitution. And how are they taught? A catechism made them. The facts stated are from most resis put into their hands, consisting of, I believe, pectable authority, or I should not have dared in forty-five pages, in which are three questions rela- this place, or any place, to hazard this avowal. If live to the Protestant religion; one of these queries exaggerated, there are plenty as willing, as I beis, “Where was the Protestant religion before Lu- lieve them to be unable, to disprove them. Should ther?” Answer, “In the Gospel.” The remain- it be objected that I never was in Ireland, I beg ing forty-four pages and a half regard the damn- leave to observe, that it is as easy to know someable idolatry of Papists!

thing of Ireland without having been there, as it Allow me to ask our spiritual pastors and mas- appears with some to have been born, bred, and ters, is this training up a child in the way which cherished there, and yet remain ignorant of its he should go? Is this the religion of the Gospel best interests. before the lime of Luther? that religion which But there are who assert that the Catholics have preaches “Peace on earth, and glory to God?” Is already been too much indulged. See (cry they) it bringing up infants to be men or devils ? Better what has been done: we have given them one enwould it be to send them any where, ihan teach tire college, we allow them food and raiment, the them such doctrines; better send them to those is- full enjoyment of the elements, and leave to fight lands in the South Seas, where they might more for us as long as they have limbs and lives to offer, humanely learn to become cannibals; it would be and yet they are never to be satisfied !-Generous less disgusting that they were brought up to de- and just declaimers! To this, and to this only, vour the dead, than persecute the living. Schools amount the whole of your arguments, when do you call them ? callihem rather dunghills, where stripped of their sophistry. Those personages the viper of intolerance deposits her young, that remind me of a story of a certain drummer, who, when their teeth are cut and their poison is mature, being called upon in the course of duty to admithey may issue forth, filthy and venomous, to sling nister punishment to a friend tied to the halberts, the Catholic. But are these the doctrines of the was requested to flog high, he did, lo flog low,

he Church of England, or of churchmen? No! the did- to flog in the middle, he did, -high, low, most enlightened churchmen are of a different opi-down the middle, and up again, but all in rain; nion. What says Paley ? “I perceive no reason the patient continued his complaints with the most why men of different religious persuasions should provoking pertinacity, until the drummer, exnot sit upon the same bench, deliberate in the same hausted and angry, flung down his scourge, excouncil, or fight in the same ranks, as well as men claiming, “ The devil burn you, there 's no pleasof various religious opinions, upon any contro-ing you, flog where one will!” Thus it is, you verted topic of natural history, philosophy, or have fogged the Catholic high, low, here, there, ethics." It may be answered, that Paley was not and every where, and then you wonder he is not strictly orthodox; I know nothing of ortho- pleased. It is true that time, experience, and that doxy, but who will deny that he was an ornament weariness which attends even the exercise of barto the church, to human nature, to Christianity? barity, have taught you to flog a little more gently;

I shall not dwell upon the grievance of lithes, so but still you continue to lay on the lash, and will severely felt by the peasantry; but it may be proper so continue, till perhaps the rod may be wrested to observe, that there is an addition to the burden, from your hands, and applied to the backs of youra per centage to the gatherer, whose interest il selves and your posterity. thus becomes to rate them as highly as possible ; It was said by somebody in a former debate (! and we know that in many large livings in Ireland forget by whom, and am not very anxious to rethe only resident Protestants are the tithe proclor member), if the Catholics are emancipated, why and his family.

not the Jews? If this sentiment was dictated by Amongst many causes of irritation, loo numerous compassion forthe Jews, it might deserve attention; for recapitulation, there is one in the militia not to but as a sneer against the Catholic, what is it but be passed over,-1 mean the existence of Orange the language of Shylock transferred from bis lodges amongst the privates. Can the officers deny daughter's marriage to Catholic emancipationthis? And if such lodges do exist, do they, can they, tend to promote harmony amongst the men,

“Would any of the tribe of Barabbas

Should have it rather than a Christian." who are thus individually separated in society, although mingled in the ranks? And is this general I presume a Catholic is a Christian, even in the system of persecution to be permitted; or is it to opinion of him whose taste only can be called in be believed that, with such a system, the Catholics question for his preference of the Jews. can or ought to be contented ? If they are, they It is a remark often quoted of Dr. Johnson (whom belie human nature; they are then, indeed, un-|I take lo be almost as good authority as the genule

apostle of intolerance, Dr. Duigenan), that he who. But while he is fighting the battles of the Cathocould entertain serious apprehensions of danger to lics abroad, his noble brother has this night advothe church in these times, would have “cried fire cated their cause, with an eloquence which I shall in the Deluge.” This is more than a metaphor; for not depreciate by the humble tribute of my panea remnant of these antediluvians appear actually to cyric; whilst a third of his kindred, as unlike as have come down to us, with fire in their mouths unequal, has been combating against his Catholic and water in their brains, to disturb and perples brethren in Dublin, with circular letters, edicts, mankind with their whimsical outcries. And us proclamations, arrests, and dispersions ;-all the it is an infallible symptom of that distressing ma- vexatious implements of petly warfare that could lady with which I conceive them to be afflicted (so be wielded by the mercenary guerillas of governany doctor will inform your Lordships), for the un- ment, clad in the rusty armour of their obsolete happy invalids to perceive a flame perpetually statutes. Your Lordships will, doubtless, divide flashing before their eyes, particularly when their new honours between the Saviour of Portugal, and eyes are shiut (as those of the persons to whom I the Dispenser of Delegates. It is singular, indeed, allude have long been), it is impossible to convince to observe the difference between our foreign and these poor creatures, that the fire against which domestic policy; if Catholic Spain, faithful Porthey are perpetually warning us and themselves is tugal, or the no less Catholic and faithful king of nothing but an ignis fatuus of their own drivel- the one Sicily (of which, by the by, you have lately ling imaginations. What rhubarb, senna, or“what deprived him), stand in need of succour, away goes purgative drug can scour that fancy thence?”—It a Neet and an army, an ambassador and a subsidy, is impossible! they are given over: theirs is the sometimes to fight pretty hardly, generally to netrue.

gotiate very badly, and always to pay very dearly “Caput insanabile tribus Anticyris."

for our Popish allies. But let four millions of felThese are your true Protestants. Like Bayle, who low-subjects pray for relief, who tight and pay and protested against all sects whiatsoever, so do they labour in your behalf, they must be treated as protest against Catholic petitions, Protestant peti-aliens; and although their “father's house has tions, all redress, all that reason, humanity, policy, many mansions,” there is no resting-place for justice, and common sense, can urge against the them. Allow me to ask, are you not fighting for delusions of their absurd delirium. These are the the emancipation of Ferdinand VII., who certainly persons who reverse the fable of the mountain that is a fool, and, conseyuently, in all probability, a brought forth a mouse; they are the mice who con- bigot ? and have you more regard for a foreign soceive themselves in labour with mountains. vereign than your own fellow-subjects: who are

To return to the Catholics; suppose the Irish not fools, for they know your interest better than were actually contented under their disabilities; you know your own ; who are not bigots, for they suppose them capable of such a bull as not to de- return you good for evil; but who are in worse sire deliverance, ought we not to wish it, for our-durance than the prison of a usurper, inasmuch as selves? Have we nothing to gain by their eman- lhe fetters of the mind are more galling than those cipation ? What resources have been wasted! of the body ? What lalents have been lost by the selfish system of Upon the consequences of your not acceding to exclusion! You already know the value of Irish the olaims of the petitioners, I shall not expatiate; aid; at this moment the defence of England is in- you know them, you will feel them, and

your

chiltrusted to the Irish militia; at this moment, while dren's children when you are passed away. Adieu the starving people are rising in the fierceness of to lhat Union, so called as lucus a non lucendo;" despair, the Irish are faithful to their trust. But a Union from never uniting, which in its first opetill equal energy is imparted throughout by the ration gave a death-blow to the independence of extension of freedom, you cannot enjoy the full be- Ireland, and in its last may be the cause of her nefit of the strength which you are glad to inter- eternal separation from this country. If it must be pose between you and destruction. Ireland has called a Union, it is the union of the shark with done much, but will do more. At this moment the his prey; the spoiler swallows up his victim, and only triumph obtained through long years of con- thus they become one and indivisible. Thus has tinental disaster has been achieved by an Irish ge- Great Britain swallowed up the parliament, the neral: it is true he is not a Catholic; had he been constitution, the independence of Ireland, and so, we should have been deprived of his exertions: refuses to disgorge even a single privilege, although but I presume no one will assert that his religion for the relief of her swollen and distempered body would have impaired his talents or diminished his politic. patriotism ; though, in that case, he must have And now, my Lords, before I sit down, will his conyuered in the ranks—for he never could have Majesty's ministers permit me to say a few words, commanded an army.

not on their merits, for that would be superfluous, but on the degree of estimation in which they are not limited to the narrow bounds of an island; held by the people of these realms? The esteem there are other countries where their measures, in which they are held has been boasted of in a and above all, their conduct to the Catholics, must triumphant tone on a late occasion within these render them pre-eminently popular. If they are walls, and a comparison instituted between their beloved here, in France they must be adored. conduct and that of noble lords on this side of the There is no measure more repugnant to the designs House.

and feelings of Bonaparte than Catholic emanciWhat portion of popularity may have fallen to pation; no line of conduct more propitious to his the share of my noble friends (if such I may pre-projects, than that which has been pursued, is pursume to call them), I shall not pretend to ascertain; suing, and, I fear, will be pursued, towards Irebut that of his Majesty's ministers it were vain to land. What is England without Ireland, and what deny. It is, to be sure, a little like the wind, is Ireland without the Catholics? It is on the basis s no one knows whence it cometh or whither it of your tyranny Napoleon hopes to build his own. goeth;” but they feel it, they enjoy it, they boast of So grateful must oppression of the Catholics be to it. Indeed, modest and unostentatious as they are, bis mind, that doubtless (as he has lately permitted to what part of the kingdom, even the most remote, some renewal of intercourse) the next cartel will can they flee to avoid the triumph which pursues convey to this country cargoes of Sèvres china and them? If they plunge into the midland counties, blue ribands (things in great request, and of equal there will they be greeted by the manufacturers, value at this moment), blue ribands of the Legion with spurned petitions in their hands, and those of Honour for Dr. Duigenan and his ministerial halters round their necks recently voted in their disciples. Such is that well-earned popularity, the behalf, imploring blessings on the heads of those result of those extraordinary expeditions, so exwho so simply, yet ingeniously, contrived to re-pensive to ourselves, and so useless to our allies; move them from their miseries in this to a better of those singular inquiries, so exculpatory to the world. If they journey on to Scotland, from accused and so dissatisfactory to the people; of, Glasgow to Johnny Groats, every where will they those paradoxical victories, so honourable, as we receive similar marks of approbation. If they take are told, to the British name, and so destructive to a trip from Portpatrick to Donaghadee, there will the best interests of the British nation: above all, they rush at once into the embraces of four Catholic such is the reward of a conduct pursued by minismillions, to whom their vote of this night is about ters lowards the Catholics. to endear them for ever. When they return to I have to apologise to the House, who will, I trust the metropolis, if they can pass under Temple Bar pardon one, not often in the habit of intruding without unpleasant sensations at the sight of the upon their indulgence, for so long attempting to greedy niches over that ominous gateway, they engage their attention. My most decided opinion cannot escape the acclamations of the livery, and is, as my vote will be, in favour of the motion. the more tremulous, but not less sincere, applause, the blessings, “not loud but deep,” of bankrupt merchants and doubling stock-holders. If they

DEBATE ON MAJOR CARTWRIGHT'S PETITION,

JUNE 1, 1813. look to the army, what wreaths, not of laurel, but of nightshade, are preparing for the heroes of Wal- Lord BYRON rose and said :cheren! It is true, there are few living deponents My Lords,—The petition which I now hold, for loft to testify to their merits on that occasion; but the purpose of presenting to the House, is one a “cloud of witnesses” are gone above from that which I humbly conceive requires the particular gallant army which they so generously and piously attention of your Lordships, inasmuch as, though despatched, to recruit the “noble army of mar-signed but by a single individual, it contains statetyrs."

ments which (if not disproved) demand most serious What if, in the course of this triumphal career investigation. The grievance of which the peti(in which they will gather as many pebbles as Ca- tioner complains is neither selfish nor imaginary. ligula's army did on a similar triumph, the pro- It is not his own only, for it has been, and is still, totype of their own), they do not perceive any of felt by numbers. No one without these walls, nor those memorials which a grateful people erect in indeed within, but may to-morrow be made liable honour of their benefactors; what although not to the same insult and obstruction, in the discharge even a sign-post will condescend to depose the of an imperious duty for the restoration of the true Saracen's head in favour of the likeness of the con- constitution of these realms, hy petitioning for requerors of Walcheren, they will not want a picture form in parliament. The petitioner, my Lords, is who can always have a caricature; or. regret the a man whose long life has been spent in one unomission of a stalue who will so often see them- ceasing struggle for the liberty of the subject, selves exalted in effigy! But their popularity is against that undue influence which has increased,

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