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charitable, as that which is here proposed to but gentlemen must recollect that there are a ination is to be made in this case against this those who have shown so much bravery as this hundred thousand other families that have lady. Do gentlemen say that the wife of a McCook family. It was proposed that the Gov- suffered just as much consequent upon this fallen hero is entitled to more consideration erument should be put to an expense of over rebellion.
than the mother who bore him? filty million dollars annually to keep up a Freed- It is said that the McCook family have con- Gentlemen talk here about remembering the men's Bureau for the support of a class of tributed the entire male portion of it to the poor. I trust they will remember the poor, persons who are unwilling to earn their own Army of the United States. I can tell gentle. and that the American people will remember living. The gentleman from Iowa who pre- men that there are thousands of families that the poor among the survivors of the heroes of ceded me was willing to vote that, while he is have done the same thing in various parts of this war for the life of the Republic. unwilling to vote for this small stipend to a fam- the country. I can point to families of con
MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE. ily whose members have behaved so gallantly I stituents of mine every male member of which in defense of the Union. I am not only not has laid down his life for his country in this
A message from the Senate, by Mr. Forney, afraid to vote for this proposition for this poor war, and those who survive are in the greatest
its Secretary, informed the House that the Senwoman, but I am willing to support the widows | penury, and yet not one of them can obtain
ate had agreed to the report of the committee and orphans left behind by our brave soldiers. relief under the pension laws. And not only
of conference on the disagreeing votes of the I am willing also to grant bounty, so far as the have they suffered in this way, but they have
two Houses on the amendinents of the Senate financial condition of the country will allow, lost every vestige of property that they had.
to the naval appropriation bill. to all of our brave soldiers who have periled || All has been destroyed, and perhaps a weep
The message further informed the House their lives during the war while other men were ing mother is left in penury and want.
that the Senate had passed a bill for the relief
Before sitting at their ease in safe places. I vote for this bill I wish to see these other
of Elisha W. Dunn, a payınaster in the United Mr. SCHENCK. And when “copperheads” | thousands who are in need provided for by the
States Navy, in which the concurrence of the were assailing them in the rear. Government of the United States.
House was requested. Nr. ROGÉRS. It is immaterial to me There is no pretense that the McCook family
MRS. MARTHA M'cook-AGAIN. whether these parties are "copperheads” or are in destitute circumstances. One of them Mr. BINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, this ladynot, so long as they did their duty gallantly. I is now occupying a high position in the United and it is certainly not to her discredit to say it do not care in these cases what a man's poli- States Army, an oflicer of high rank. Cer- --was left, when her husband fell upon the ties may be. I understand the father of this thinly one, and I do not know but more than field, without any property of any kind, and family, although too old to be enlisted, lost his There is no pretense that Mrs. McCook dependent exclusively upon the affection which life while in service against one of Morgan's in want at all. For that reason, if for no might be shown her by her surviving children. raids, while many who were better able to bear other, I am opposed to setting aside the thou- It is but justice that I should further say that arms shirked their responsibility. I hope no sands who are in actual want and providing for one of her sons, as I was informed by her man on either side of the House will have the this particular case.
daughter, protested against his mother acceptmeanness to record his vote against this brave I am not disposed to detract anything from ing any pension from the Government, and family which has done its duty to the country the merits of this family. They are entitled to claimed the privilege of being himself her pro80 well.
all the credit that is accorded to them ; but tector and supporter when he took her, in her Mr. SCHENCK. I said these men were they are no more meritorious than many an- widowhood, to the shelter of his own roof-tree, fighting the rebels in front while copperheads | other family that has done as much and suf- where she is to-day. were attacking them in the rear. I did not fered as much during the war as this.
But, sir, there is a peculiar reason why it is call the soldiers - copperheads.”'
Then, again, I am opposed to setting a prece- that this additional pension is asked by this Mr. ROGERS. I understand this old man dent in the passage of this bill, which pro- old lady at the hands of the American ConMcCook served in the Army although he could poses to grant an annuity, not a pension. I gress. It is this: she has not only lost her not be drafted, when those who oppose this am not aware that there is a case in the history husband and her three sons, all of whom either measure were safe at home in palatial resi- of this Government of the character here pro- fell in battle or perished of honorable wounds dences. posed.
received in battle, but she has cast upon her Mr. TAYLOR. I yield to the gentleman
Mr. TAYLOR. I will yield now to the gen- care and keeping to-day another of those heroic from West Virginia, [Ar. WHALEY.] tleman from Ohio, (Mr. Bingham.]
sons, who, after going through thirty-eight Mr. WHALEY. I rise to indorse what has Mr. BINGHAM. I desire to address the battles in the late war for the Union, and being been said by the gentleman from Ohio, [Mr. House for a few minutes only upon this ques- twice wounded nigh unto death, was brought EGGLESTON,) and I wish to say that I for one tion. It was my good fortune to represent for home to her shattered in every nerve of his am willing to vote to tax the people to the years the district in which this family resided organization, and as helpless as a child. utmost extent in behalf of the suffering widows
and in which all the sons of this lady were Mr. PERHAM. Has not he a pension? and mothers of our brave soldiers. And I born and raised. I have been acquainted with Mr. BINGHAM. Not that I know of. I regret to see that members on this floor are this family from my boyhoou. I never was have never inquired. I know that this lady opposed to granting relief to this old lady. I associated with them politically. I come before had received no pension from the Government, an not here to speak in praise of the McCooks. the House to-day, as I trust I shall come before and no proposition was made to grant her any Their history is too well known. Their brav- the House upon all occasions upon questions until within the last ninety or hundred days, ery is shown by the fact that there were ten of this sort, to insist that something like equal after I introduced this bill for her relief. Her sons in the Army, three of whom were generals, ll justice be done by this Government in grant- sands of life are well-nigh ran, and I want to all of whom, I believe, rose from the ranks. ing special pensions. I do not see the distinc- know of gentlemen who voted to give $600 a Such a remarkable family in that respect, per- tion, and I do not think the people of this year to the widow of General Baker, and the haps, was never known in history.
country will see the distinction, that isattempted same pension to the widows of General Berry I would not oppose this increase of pension to be made here between widows who are to and General Whipple, how they can go before to this lady on the ground that she may not have special pensions for services rendered by the American people dickering about the difneed it. The fact is she does need it, other- their husbands and sons during the war and ference between $250 and $60 a year. That wise there would have been no application to || their loss by battle. If gentlemen have any is the question, and the only question, now Congress for it.
trouble on the subject of the word “annuity! before the House on the reports of the comMr. TAYLOR. I yield for five minutes to in this bill, let it be stricken out and the word mittee. The Committee on Pensions, both the the gentleman from Missouri, [Mr. BENJAMIN.] “pension
in substituted. The words are con- majority and minority, report in favor of an Mr. BENJAMIN. As one of the members vertible terms, and amount to one and the increase of pension. The majority report in of the Committee on Invalid Pensions, I was same thing. But there are gentlemen here favor of an increase of $250 annually of this unable to agree with the majority of the com- who object to this bill because of the word lady's pension, and the minority report in favor mittee who reported this bill. Here is a prop- "annuity," simply because they claim that of increasing it only sixty dollars annually; osition that is very unusual in its character in the grant of annuities is a departure from the the whole committee, therefore, agree that the legislation of this country. Mrs. McCook general rule in granting the pensions. It is there ought to be an increase of her pension. is already in the enjoyment of a pension of further objected that the grant of a special The simple question, therefore, is, whether or $300 a year, granted to her by the Depart. || pension is a dangerous departure from the not we shall adopt the suggestion of the miment in consequence of the death of her hus- general policy of the country and a bad prece- nority of the Committee on Invalid Pensions, band.
dent. If gentlemen will refer to the records and thereby save the sum of $190 annually It is said that this is a celebrated family. of the Congress of the United States they will and no more, on account of this increased penIn regard to that I am not going to take issue find that special pensions have frequently been sion proposed by the majority. That is the with any one. But for that they should re- granted, and that even in the last Congress only question before us. With all respect, it ceive the same consideration that every other this very departure from the general law was seems to me that to reject the majority report celebrated family is entitled to, no more and made in three instances: in the case of Gen- in order to save annually the sum of $190 by no less.
eral Baker, who had been a colonel and was a withholding it from this lady is not a wise It is said that this is a fighting family. For || brigadier general by brevet, which he never economy. that they are entitled to the same considera- | accepted; in the case of General Berry, and Now, in regard to the services of this family. tion that the hundred thousand other fighting in the case of General Whipple. The last I beg leave to say that I was here in my place families of this country are entitled to. Congress allowed a pension of $600 annually in the discharge of my public duty when the
it is said that this family suffered greatly to the widows or families of each of these offi- first battle was fought in Virginia in the great during the war. That is undoubtedly true; I would like to know why this discrim- Il struggle for the preservation of the Republic.
This old man, Major McCook, the husband of Mr. BENJAMIN. Will the gentleman from pension; but that word was rejected for the this lady, without belonging to any company
Illinois (Mr. WASHBURNE), allow me to say a express purpose of making that a case distinet whatever, rushed to the front upon his own word right here?
from all others, precisely what this joint resoaccount and upon his own responsibility, and Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Certainly. lution proposes with reference to this McCook participated in the battle of the 21st of July, Mr. BENJAMIN. When the joint resolu- family. 1861, from its beginning to its close. Upon tion was introduced to which the gentleman I cite also the case of the widow of Commothe retreat, when near Centreville, his young from Illinois has referred, Mrs. McCook was dore Perry, who, in 1821, was granted an son Charley, aged seventeen, who had volun- drawing no pension, as the gentleman from annuity of $400 a year during life, and also teered from his school-room at Gambier, Knox Ohio [Mr. BINGILAM) has already stated. That an annuity of $150 for each of four children. county, Ohio, to fight for the Union, was over- joint resolution was intended to provide her a That also is a case analogous to this. Gentletaken by the pursuing rebels and ordered to pension. Since then she has obtained the pen- men, therefore, need not urge the objection surrender. His father called to him, "Charley, sion the joint resolution asked for, and the sub- that the passage of this joint resolution will surrender.” The boy's voice was heard to stitute of the majority now proposes to give her . establish a precedent, because the precedent respond, "Father, I can never surrender to $250 per annum in addition.
has already been established years ago. traitors.” And he fell, pierced with the bullets Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then the I desire also to call the attention of the of the enemy, one of the first martyrs of the object of my friend from Ohio has already been House to the fact that no longer ago than the Republic. I went with his stricken-hearted | accomplished.
last session of Congress, pensions of $600 each mother to lay his mangled body in its last rest- Mr. BINGHAM. Not at all; she never got were granted to the widows of three distining place in the Congressional burying-ground. the pension asked for. The joint resolution guished generals-Generals Baker, Berry, and
From that day forward to the end of the asked for a pension for the loss of her sons. Whipple. The annuity of $250 which this struggle, every male member of this household Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then the resolution proposes to give Mrs. McCook will, was found in the ranks of the defenders of the gentleman from Ohio wants a double pension? | with the pension which she is already receiv. country; being the surviving seven brothers and Mr. BINGHAM. Certainly I do.
ing, make $550 — fitty dollars less than the the father. Three of them have also fallen in Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Then we
annuity granted in similar cases by the last battle, and one is now at home in the care of his come to the substitute reported by the majority || Congress. mother, his constitution shattered, a miserable of the committee. I say it is exceptional, and Mr. Speaker, I now demand the previous wreck, never again to enjoy health and comfort if the House establishes that precedent 1&o question. in this life.
not know what point we may ultimately reach. Mr. HARDING, of Kentucky. I appeal to And yet members here urge the importance Mr. Speaker, whatever I might be disposed || the gentleman to withdraw the call for the preof saving $190 per annum in this case.
to do for Mrs. McCook in the way of voting a vious question, so that the whole case may be be so; but for myself I will say,
that whenever sum of money absolutely, as a testimonial from heard. a like case is presented here from any quarter Congress in consideration of the bravery of her Mr. TAYLOR. But a few minutes of the by any one of a whole family having rendered sons, I must object to the passage of any such morning hour remain, and I must insist on the such service in the late war for the Union, the bill as this. I would be willing to vote in favor | previous question. half of them having been killed outright, I will of giving Mrs. McCook a sum of money abso- On seconding the previous question, there gladly vote for a like pension or annuity, and || lutely. Such a proposition would be much pref- were-ayes 49, noes 26 ; no will not falter whatever word may be employed erable to this.
The SPEAKER, under the rule, ordered in the bill to designate the compensation. Mr. BINGHAM. All that I desire is that tellers; and appointed Messrs. Taylor and
I trust, however, that the gentleman from justice shall be done in this matter; and I am PERHAM. New York [Mr. Taylor) will consent to strike willing to move an amendment providing that The House divided; and the tellers reported out the word "annuity and insert the word there be paid to Mrs. McCook a gratuity of -ayes sixty-three, noes not counted. “pension” in its place, for the purpose of re- $1,500, instead of the yearly sum here pro- So the previous question was seconded. moving the scruples of gentlemen. posed.
The main question was ordered, which was Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Will the The SPEAKER. That amendment would
upon the amendment of Mr. PERHAM to the gentleman from New York yield to me for a not be in order now. There is pending a sub- substitute reported by the committee. few moments ?
stitute, to which an amendment has been of- Mr. HARDING, of Kentucky, called for the Mr. TAYLOR. How long does the gentle- fered.
yeas and nays. man desire?
Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. The amend- The yeas and nays were ordered. Mr. WASHBURNE, of Illinois. But a few ment might be received by unanimous consent. The question was taken; and it was decided minutes. The gentleman can resume the floor Mr. CONKLING. Such a proposition as in the negative-yeas 48, nays 69, not voting whenever he desires. that could not receive unanimous consent. I
66; as follows: Mr. TAYLOR. I will yield to the gentleman must object, for one.
YEAS-Messrs. Allison, Baker, Baldwin, Baxter, for five minutes.
Mr. HARDING, of Kentucky. Will the gen- Beaman, Benjamin, Boutwell, Brandegee, Cobb, Mr.WASHBURNE, of Illinois. Mr. Speaker, tleman from New York [Mr. Taylor] now
Conkling, Cook, Defrees, Farnsworth, Ferry. Grider,
Grinnell, Hale, Aaron Harding, Abner C. Harding, it is not necessary, I trust, while opposing this yield to me?
Henderson, Holmes, Edwin N. Hubbell, Ketcham. bill, for any gentleman on this floor to say that Mr. TAYLOR. I would be glad to yield to Laflin. Latham, Longyear, Lynch, Marvin. McKee, he does not fail to bear full and ample testi- the gentleman, but he wishes to advocate the
Mereur, Moulton, Paine, Perham, Pike, Priee, John
H. Rice, Ritter, Rollins, Shanklin, Smith, Stevens, mony to the courage of this McCook family, amendment emanating from the minority of Trowbridge, Upson, Elihu B. Washburne, William or of any member of it. For one, I most cheer- | the committee. I have already given two gen- B. Washburn, Williams, James F. Wilson, and Winfully bear my testimony to that effect. I knew | tlemen of the minority an opportunity to advo- dom 18 the father of these children who fought so
NAYS-Messrs. Ancona, Barker, Bidwell, Bingcate their views, and I must decline to yield | ham, Boyer, Buckland, Bundy, Chanler, Reader W. bravely and so well. I knew some of the chil- further.
Clarke, Coffroth, Davis. Dawson. Delano. Deming, dren; one of them was the colonel of an Illi- Mr. HARDING, of Kentucky. Let me ask
Denison, Donnelly, Eckley. Eggleston, Eldridge,
Eliot, Farquhar, Finck, Glossbrenner, Goodyear, nois regiment, and distinguished himself on all the gentleman whether it is his intention to Hnyes, Hill, Hogan, Hotchkiss, Asahel W. Hubbard, the fields where he served.
call the previous question and cut off debate Chester D. Hubbard, James M. Humphrey, Kelley, But this is a question that rises somewhat on the minority report. As a member of the
Kelso, George V. Lawrence, Loan, Marshall, Meabove these personal considerations; and I trust committee, I claim the right to say something Niblack, O'Neill, Orth.' Phelps, Samuel J. Randall,
Clurg, McRer, Miller, Moorhead, Morris, Myers, the House will understand this matter before upon that minority report.
Raymond, Rogers, Ross, Rousseau, Scofield, Shellathey establish the precedent here recommended. Mr. TAYLOR. I think that there has been
barger, Spalding, Stilwell, Taber, Taylor, Thayer,
Francis Thomas, John L. Thomas, Thornton, Van My friend from Ohio [Mr. Bingham is a full opportunity afforded for the presentation Aernam, Burt Van Horn, Robert T. Van Horn, Ward, little mistaken, I perceive, in one particular. I of the views of the minority, and I decline to Warner, Henry D. Washburn, Welker, and Whahave before me the joint resolution introduced yield further. There are scarcely fifteen min
NOT VOTING--Messrs. Alley, Ames, Anderson, by him; it is in his own handwriting. It is not utes of the morning hour remaining;
Delos R. Ashley, James M. Ashley, Banks, Bergen, like the one to which he referred as forming a Mr. HARDING, of Kentucky. I hope that Blaine, Blow, Bromwell, Broomall, Sidney Clarke, precedent for the passage of this joịnt resolu- the previous question will not be sustained.
Cullom, Culver. Darling, Dawes, Dixon, Douze,
Driggs, Dumont, Garfield, Griswold. Harris, Hart, dion. His joint resolution provides that there Mr. TAYLOR. The gentleman from Mis- Higby. Hooper, Demas Hubbard, John II. Hubbard, shall be paid to Mrs. Martha McCook a pen- souri [Mr. BENJAMIN) and the gentleman from James R. Hubbell, Hulburd, James Humphrey, Insion to the amount of $300 per annum, not on Illinois (Mr. WASHBURNE] have said that there
gersoll, Jenckes, Johnson, Jones, Julian, Kasson, account of the services of her husband, who,
Kerr. Kuykendall, William Lawrence, Le Blond, is no precedent for the action proposed in this Marston, McCullough, McIndoe, Morrill. Nerell. it is alleged, fell in the service, but on account bill. Those gentlemen are at fault in their Nicholson, Noell, Patterson, Plants, Pomeroy, Rad. of the loss of two unmarried sons, therein knowledge of the legislation of the country.
ford, William H. Randall, Alexander H. Rice. Sav.
yer, Schenck, Sitgreaves, Sloan, Starr. Strouse, Trimnamed, who fell in the war against the rebel. It will be found that in 1814, a gratuity of $200 ble, Wentworth, Stephen F. Wilson, Wintield, Woodlion. That is the joint resolution introduced a year during life was granted to Mrs. Mary bridge, and Wright--66. by the gentleman from Ohio. I say it is entirely Cheever, on account of the distinguished ser- So the substitute of the minority was disexceptional, and that no such bill has ever, to vices of her two sons, who were seamen on agreed to. my knowledge, been passed by Congress. board the frigate Constitution, and were killed During the vote,
The Committee on Invalid Pensions have in the capture of the British frigate Java. This, Mr. HALE stated that Mr. WOODBRIDGE was reported a substitute which the House is now so far as I know, is the only case exactly in detained from the House by illness. called upon to pass, which substitute is also point. In the course of the discussion of that The vote was then announced as above exceptional.
case in Congress, it was proposed to make it a recorded.
The substitute of the majority of the com- the amendment of the House to the twelfth amend- pany for transportation, &c., for the Governmittee was adopted.
ment of the Senate and agree to the same. The joint resolution as amended was ordered
That tho House recede from their amendment to
ment, and the same was referred to the Comthe sixth section of the bill in the following words:
mittee on the Judiciary. to be engrossed and read a third time; and "if approved by the Secretary of the Navy.
MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT. being engrossed, it was accordingly read the
JAMES W. GRIMES, third time.
E. D. MORGAN,
A message in writing was received from the Mr. TAYLOR demanded the previous ques
T. A. HENDRICKS,
President of the United States, by Mr. WILLIAM
Managers on the part of the Senate. tion on the passage of the joint resolution.
N. P. BANKS,
G. MOORE, his Secretary. The previous question was seconded, and the
J. F. FARNSWORTH,
Also, informing the House that he had ap
CHIARLES E. PIIELPS, main question ordered.
Managers on the part of the House.
proved and signed bills and a joint resolution Mr. SMITH demanded the yeas and nays.
of the following titles, namely:
Mr. FARNSWORTH. My colleague on the The yeas and nays were ordered.
An act (H. R. No. 207) to amend an act to committee of conference, the gentleman from The question was taken; and it was decided
provide ways and means to support the GovMassachusetts, [Mr. Banks,] being sick and in the afirmative-yeas 73, nays 42, not voting unable to attend the session of the House to
ernment, approved March 3, 1865; 68; as follows: day, has sent me the papers and requested me
An act (H. R. No. 223) to amend an act to
incorporate the Mutual Fire Insurance ComYEAS-Messrs. Ancona, Barker, Bidwell, Bingham, to make the report. That is the reason why I Royer, Bromwell Buckland, Bundy, Chanler, Reader
of the District of Columbia ; make the report instead of the chairman of the
pany W. Clarke, Coffroth, Cook, Davis, Dawson, Delano,
An act (H. R. No. 60) to reimburse the Deming, Denison, Donnelly, Eckley, Eggleston, Elcommittee of conference on the part of the
State of Pennsylvania for moneys advanced dridze, Eliot, Farnsworth, Farquhar, Finek, GlossHouse.
Government for war purposes; brenner, Hayes, Henderson, Hogan, Hotchkiss, Asa- The principal differences between the House hel W. Hubbard, Chester D. Hubbard, James M. and the Senate were in regard to the purchase | Augustin Amiot, his legal assigns and repre
An act (H. R. No. 361) to confirm unto Ilumphrey. Kelley, Kelso, Latham, George V. Lawrence, Loan. Longyear, Lynch, Marshall, McClurg, of the Oakman & Eldridge wharf, at the Charles
sentatives, a certain lot of ground in the city MeRoer, Miller, Moorhead, Morris, Myers. Niblack, town navy-yard, and the proposition for the O'Neill, Orth, Paine, Phelps, Pike, Samuel J. Randall, Raymond, Rogers, Ross, Rousseau, Scofield, purchase of additional grounds adjoining the
of St. Louis, in the State of Missouri ; Shellabarger, Spalding, Stilwell, Taber, Taylor, Naval School at Annapolis.
An act (H. R. No. 319) for the relief of the
estate of E. W. Eddy; and Thayer, Thornton, Van Aernam, Burt Van Horn, One of the members of the committee on Robert T. Van Hom, Ward, Warner, Welker, and
Joint resolution (H. R. No. 105) giving conWhales-13. the part of the Senate, Mr. Grimes, who had
struction to the law in relation to bounties XAYS-Messrs. Baker, Baldwin, Baxter, Bea
made a personal examination of the grounds payable to soldiers discharged for wounds. man, Benjamin, Bontwell, Brandegee. Cobb,' Conk- at Annapolis, was of opinion that this purchase ling, Detrees, Perry, Goodyear, Grinnell, Hale. Aaron
ARMY BILL. should be made, and that the price at which it Hardiog, Abner C. Haruling, Harris, Hill, Holmes, Elvin N. Jubbell, Ketcham, Marvin. McKee, Meris offered to the Government is very cheap.
The SPEAKER stated that the next busicur, Patterson, Perhaps, Plants, Price, Ritter, Rol- In reference to the purchase of Oakman &
ness before the House was the consideration lins, Shanklin, Smith, Stevens, Trowbridge, Upson,
Eldridge's wharf, the Senate recede from their of the special order, being the bill to reorganElihu B. Washburne, Henry D. Washburn. William
amendment. B. Washburn, Wentworth, Williams, James F. Wil
ize and establish the Army of the United States, son, and Windor-42.
These were the principal points of difference; | reported by the Committee on Military Affairs. NOT VOTING-Mesers. Alley Allison, Amcg, An- the House receded in reference to the Annap
Mr. CONKLING. I would inquire if the derson, Delos R. Ashley, James M. Ashley, Banks,
olis appropriation, and the Senate receded in question before the House is not upon the subBergen, Blaine, Blow, Broomall, Sidney Clarke, Cullom. Culver, Darling. Dawes, Dixon, Dodge, Driggs, reference to the wharf purchase.
stitute reported by the committee for the SenDumont, Garfield, Grider, Griswold, Lart, Higby, The other amendments were in the main
ate bill. Hooper, Demas Hubbard, John H. Hubbard, James R. Habbell, Hulburd, James Humphrey, Ingersoll, merely verbal.
Mr. SCHENCK. There is no Senate bill Jencko, Johnson, Jones. Julian, Kasson, Kerr, Mr. CHANLER. I did not distinctly hear
before the House. Kuskendall, Lallin, William Lawrence, Le Blond, what are the provistons made by the report in
Mr. CONKLING. Is not this a substitute Marston, McCullough, McIndoe, Morrill, Moulton, Newell, Nicholson, Noell, Porneroy, Radford, Wilreference to the navy-yard on the Gulf. I
for the Senate bill? liam H. Randall, Alexander II. Rice, John H. Rice, would therefore ask the gentleman what appro
Mr. SCHENCK. Oh, no; it is a House bill. Sawyer, Schenck, Sitgreaves, Sloan, Starr, Strouse, priations are now made by the bill for the navy.
The SPEAKER. The Senate bill is not Francis Thomas, John L. Thomas, Trimble, Stephen yard at Pensacola.
now before the House. This is a House bill F. Wilson, Wintield, Woodbridge, and Wright--68.
Mr. FARNSWORTH. There is an appro
reported back with an amendment in the So the joint resolution was passed.
priation of $50,000 for the necessary repairs nature of a substitute. Mr. TAYLOR moved to reconsider the vote
for preserving the navy-yard at Pensacola, but The Chair will state that if there is no objecby which the joint resolution was passed ; and there is no appropriation for rebuilding the tion it will greatly facilitate business to have also mored that the motion to reconsider be navy-yard at that point.
the substitute treated as an original bill reported laid upon the table.
I do not think further discussion is necessary; by the committee; if treated as a substitute, The latter motion was agreed to. and I demand the previous question.
but one amendment can be offered at a time. SAFAL APPROPRIATION BILL.
The previous question was seconded and Mr. SCHENCK. I was about to make that Mr. FARNSWORTH. I rise to a privileged || operation thereof the report of the committee the main question ordered; and under the very suggestion. This bill which the commit
tee report is in fact an original bill. question. I desire to make a report from the of conference was agreed to.
The SPEAKER. If, then, there be no obcommittee of conference on the disagreeing
Mr. FARNSWORTH moved to reconsiderjection it will be treated as an original bill, and votes of the two Houces on the naval approthe vote by which the report of the committee
an amendment and an amendment to an amendpriation bill. I ask that it be read.
of conference was agreed to ; and also moved ment will be entertained. The Clerk read, as follows:
to lay the motion to reconsider upon the table. No objection was made. The committee of conference on the disagreeing The latter motion was agreed to.
Mr. RAYMOND. I would like to inquire Fote of the two Houses on the amendments to the
of the Chair to what subject the message just bill (II. R. No. 122) making appropriations for the QUARANTINE STATION, NEW YORK. aaral service for the year ending June 30, 1867, bar
received from the President of the United States ing met, after full and free conference have agreed The SPEAKER, by unanimous consent, relates. to recommend, and do recommend, to their respective laid before the House a communication from The SPEAKER. It has not yet been jour Houses as follows: That the House of Representatives recede from
the Secretary of War, in compliance with a nalized by the Journal Clerk, but it is in regard their disagreement to the amendments of the Senato resolution of the House of the 14th of March to the fisheries. numbered one, five, six, ten, and eleven, and agree last, stating that he has no data by which to Mr. RAYMOND. If it is not too long, I w the same. That the Senate recede from their fourth amend- form an opinion as to the effect that the erec- would like to have it read.
tion of a quarantine station will have upon the Mr. SCAENCK. I must object to that, as That the Senate recede from their disagreement to navigable waters of New York harbor; which the Army bill is the special order for to-day. the aipendment of the House to the third amendment of the Senate, and agree to the same. was laid upon the table, and ordered to be
The SPEAKER. Then the gentleman from That the House recede from their disagreement to printed.
New York can move to proceed to the business the seventh amendment of the Senate, and agree to
TIIE ASSASSINATION REWARDS. tamame with an amendment, as follows:
on the Speaker's table, and that will take the Strike ont all of said amendment and and also the The SPEAKER, by unanimous consent, gentleman from Ohio off the floor. elance of the hill to which it was attached, and insert laid before the House à communication from
Mr. SCHENCK. Does the gentleman only the tuliowing in lieu thercof: "For the preservation and geotary repairs of the property of the United the Secretary of War, in reply to a resolution want it read? Suites at the Pensacola navy-yard, $50,000, or so much of the House of the 10th instant, in regard to
Mr. RAYMOND. That is all. thresfe may be necessary. *the findings of the commissions in the case
Mr. SCHENCK. I object to its being taken That the Senate agrec to so much of the amendment of the Blouso to the eighth amendment of the Senate of the rewards for the capture of J. Wilkes up for the mere purpose of reading. If a motion as opores to strike out of said amendment the fol- Booth and David E. Harold; which was laid is made to take it up for action and I cannot lowing words: "the same as those rates received at Beton. New York, and Washington;" and agree to upon the table, and ordered to be printed.
resist that motion 1 must of course give way. he matter proposed to be inserted by the House, and
I have no feeling about the matter, but the
ILLINOIS CENTRAL RAILROAD. that the linse agree to the same as so modified.
Army bill was made the special order for batthe House recede from so much of their amend- On motion of Mr. FARNSWORTH, by | to-day, and it should not be shoved aside now. ment to the ninth amendment of the Senate as proDime to strike out the second clause of said amend
unanimous consent, the Committee on Appro. Mr. RAYMOND. I will not press my reDeut; and that the Senate agree to so much of the
priations was discharged from the further con- quest. arendment of the House to said Senate amendment sideration of a letter from the Secretary of Mr. SCHENCK. I desire to suggest to the à proposes to strike out the words "foundery and," in the fourth elause of'suid amendment.
War stating the amounts paid to, and still House, in behalf of the Committee on Military That the Senate recede from their disagreement to claimed, by the Illinois Central Railroad Com- ll Affairs, a mode of procedure in regard to the
consideration of this biil which I trust will be that he shall have an opportunity to do so be- ever, yield my own opinion upon that subject satisfactory to all sides.
fore the proposed arrangement shall be entered to the high authority of the Lieutenant GenI propose
that the bill, important as it is into. Then the gentleman from Ohio can bring eral, whose view is concurred in by the Secreadmitted upon all sides to be, shall first be forward his ten-minute limitation, and have the tary of War in his report, and sanctioned, I read through, and then read section by section bill debated under that rule.
believe, by the President in communicating to for amendment, as though in Committee of Mr. THAYER. I will withdraw my objec- us that report. I have been willing to take the Whole. When it shall have been read I tion to the arrangement proposed by the gen- the standard which they propose, and which shall ask the attention of the House for, I tleman from Ohio, if he will agree to have has been embodied as one of the general think, not more than fifteen or twenty min- speeches limited to fifteen minutes instead of features of this bill. utes, in order that I may give the House some ten minutes.
Some gentlemen, taking a different view, idea of the general features of the bill, of the Mr. SCHENCK. I thought that when I was will doubtless claim that there ought to be either line of legislation that the House committee willing to limit myself to fifteen minutes in the no standing army at all, or a very small one, has thought proper to pursue, as contradis- || general explanation of the bill
, ten minutes perhaps not larger than that which existed tinguished in some points from that which we upon each amendment would be enough for before the war for the suppression of the rebelfind in the bill which has been sent to us from members. My desire is to economize the time | lion, to serve only as a nucleus for expansion the Senate, and which has also been referred | of the House, and to make this a business into such force as may be needed by the addito the Committee on Military Affairs; and, as debate. It is not the desire of the committee, tion of the militia and volunteer forces of the I do not mean to be interrupted during that and certainly it is not my desire, that this Army country that may be called out in any emer
fifteen minutes by anybody, I trust no gentle- bill shall be made a peg upon which to hang gency, • man will consider me discourteous if I do not long speeches upon general subjects. And I Without going into a detailed statement of
yield the floor to him. But in order that every do not think my friend from Pennsylvania has the reasons which led to the conclusion arrived one may have a fair opportunity I propose not any desire to indulge in any such debate. If at by the Lieutenant General, by the Secretary to call the previous question on the bill, but he thinks that ten minutes upon each amend- of War, and by the committee, it will, in my that it shall be considered section by section, ment is not enough, then I will consent to the opinion, be found that, in view of the vast so as to give gentlemen an opportunity to bring limitation of fifteen minutes.
extent of our sea-coast, requiring garrisons at forward their amendments and present their Mr. ELDRIDGE. I suggest to the gentle- different points, not only upon the Atlantic but views to the House. That, I think, is but fair. man from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK] that we first also upon the Pacific, including the whole coast
I propose, however, that the debate shall hear the bill read through. We can then of California ; considering also the numerous be limited by general consent to ten-minute | ascertain whether there is any desire for any interior posts of the country, and the probable speeches, for five minutes is scarcely long general debate longer than the time which he necessity, owing to the disturbed condition of enough. And I will not call the previous has proposed.
the country, of keeping up here and there the question except it be upon some particular
Mr. SCHENCK. That was my proposition, nucleus of a force to be mobilized if occasion section, the previous question to apply only to that the bill be first read through, then I would should require in the southern districts of this that particular section, if the discussion seems make a brief explanation of the general char- country, the general number agreed upon is to run to an unreasonable length upon it, just acter and object of the bill. After which the || by no means too great. Taking in view all as in Committee of the Whole the motion is | bill will be read section by section for amend- these elements of calculation, bearing in mind made that the committee rise for the purpose ment, during which time debate shall be lim- the garrisons that will be necessary for all our of closing debate on a particular section. ited to speeches of ten minutes each.
military posts and for the Indian frontier, and My object is to secure a fair consideration Mr. ÜLDRIDGE. Let the bill be read the force that will be required for the various to this bill, and upon the part of the Commit- through before that arrangement is made. expeditions which must from time to time be tee on Military Affairs to invite the aid of mem- Mr. SCHENCK. Then I give notice that I undertaken, and the troops that may be requi. bers of the House on all sides to perfect the bill will submit that proposition to the House as site in different parts of the country for secu. and put it in such a shape as will secure the soon as the bill shall have been read.
ring and preserving the public peace, the aggre. best organization for this great arm of the pub- The bill was then read at length.
gate cannot properly be less than that which lic defense. I will ask that this may be the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Ohio the committee have made the basis of their bill. general understanding.
has suggested that the bill be read by sections The bill which has been passed by the Sen. Mr. THAYER, Mr. DAVIS, and Mr. for amendment, and that debate be limited to ate, and which is now before the Committee CHANLER objected.
fifteen minutes. Is there any objection? on Military Affairs, does provide for a smaller Mr. SCHENCK. Very well; then if it shall There was no objection.
number, but only in this one particular: the become necessary, where it appears that this Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Speaker, it is not Senate proposes fifty as the number of infantry bill is made a peg to hang long speeches upon, necessary for me to speak of the importance | regiments, while we have provided for fiftyI shall be compelled to call the previous ques- of the bill which we have now before us for five, the latter being in accordance with the tion on the entire bill.
consideration. It relates to the great arm of bill as originally proposed in the Senate, and Mr. CHANLER. I desire to submit a sug. the public defense, to the number, classifica- in accordance with the recommendations of gestion to the gentleman from Ohio, [Mr. tion, and condition of the troops necessary to
the Lieutenant General and the Secretary of SCHENCK.] There may be more persons on constitute that arm as it shall hereafter be pre- War, this reduction of five regiments being this side of the House who by the arrange- served for the public defense. This bill, em- apparently for the purpose of crowding out and ment he proposes may be cut off.
bodying after much investigation and consid- || getting rid of the Veteran Reserve corps. We The SPEAKER. If objection is made to eration the views of the Committee on Military retained the fifty-five regiments, using ten of the suggestion of the gentleman from Ohio, Affairs, has been brought by them before the them for the Veteran Reserve corps. They [Mr. Schenck,] it cannot be adopted. House with a request, heretofore made to the would have but fifty regiments, and have the
Mr. CHANLER. I only desire to have the House and which I now repeat, that we shall whole fifty to the exclusion of that corps, or in arrangement fully understood before it is com- have, as we progress with the bill, the aid of || providing for new officers outside of that corps pleted. And therefore I would suggest to the the Representatives here assembled in putting | hereafter to be retained in the service of the gentleman from Ohio before this arrangement the bill, by any requisite amendments, in such country. is made
a shape as will best accomplish its great objects Then as to the cost of the Army we propose, Mr. CONKLING. I appeal to my colleague and the good of the country, for which it is any gentleman who has looked at the public [Mr. CHANLER] to withdraw his objection. intended.
documents laid before the House is familiar Mr. CHANLER. Well, I was about to do I have very little to say in regard to the gen- with the fact that the appropriation made for so without any appeal.
eral features of the bill except as they shall the support of the Army and forces in the field Mr. CONKLING. If my colleague will allow, disclose themselves as we proceed in its con- during the last year of the rebellion was I will say that it seems to me that the
sideration section by section, as the House has $516,000,000. The estimate, subject, however, tion made by the chairman of the Committee resolved to do. I will make, however, the to some small deductions for the reduction of on Military Affairs is a very fair one.
general remark that this bill is framed in con- officers made in our bill-the estimate subcolleague across the way [Mr. CHANLER] and formity to the views of the Lieutenant General mitted for an army to be retained such as we my colleague nearer to me (Mr. Davis) wish of the Army, sanctioned by the Secretary of propose now by the bill before the House-was to make remarks to an extent greater than ten War, in so far as it regards the number of the $33,000,000 in the aggregate, being about the minutes they can make them now, and agree standing Army proposed to be provided for sixteenth part of what it cost the country to afterward to the suggestion of the chairman of the future protection of the country. Accord- retain the Army during the last year of the the Committee on Military Affairs, and then we ing to the recommendations of those officers, can go on and consider the bill.
it provides for an Army which shall consist of Another feature in this bill, in which there Mr. CHANLER. I am very much obliged fifty thousand men, but with an organization is a slight difference, (and gentlemen, have to my colleague [Mr. ConKLING] for his usual capable of expansion to eighty-two thousand requested me to state the differences between courtesy and kindness in taking the very words six hundred. Gentlemen may differ with each this and the bill which passed the Senate,) is out of my mouth while I am upon the floor. other and with the committee in regard to what in the number of colored troops retained. I was about to make exactly the same sug- should now be the number of the standing | The Senate propose eight regiments of colgestion. The only object I had in rising Army of these United States. I confess that ored troops. The House proposes eight regiwas to make the very suggestion, and in the the impression which has been upon my mind ments of colored troops so far as infantry are very words that he has just made. I do not for many months, and which is not yet entirely concerned. Two regiments, of the twelve regiwish to debate the bill at large, but if any gen
removed, is that we ought to preserve an Army tleman desires to debate it at large I propose
ments of cavalry provided for in both bills, of at least one hundred thousand men. I, how- in the Senate bill it is provided shall be col.
ored caralry. We have no such provision in the bill before the Ilouse.
The bill, as I have already intimated, reserves for use in the service of the country a body called the Veteran Reserve corps, made up of ten of the fifty-five regiments of infantry, eight others of the fifty-five being colored. I am aware there will be objection made in some quarters to this preservation of that organization, to this provision for its being continued. I will not now, but will in the course of the debate on the section, go into any argument in respect to the retention of that corps. I will but say that this corps, which sprung from the necessities of the war, which had its birth in the exigencies of that struggle, consisted of twenty-four regiments. It is proposed by the House bill, the features of which gentlemen desire to understand, to continue the Veteran Reserve corps, not to the number of twentyfour regiments, as provided for until the men were discharged on their election, but of ten regiments only, the officers to be taken from these regiments, not exclusively those who were officers of the twenty-four regiments which heretofore existed, but to be selected, by examination, from those officers and from all other wounded volunteer officers who may have the requisite qualifications; the corps to have among its members, so far as the enlisted men are concerned, such enlisted men as may be found fit for light or garrison duty of any kind to be assigned for the purpose in this corps, together with such others as may be required to make up the whole corps, and who would be rejected on medical inspection without any such provision of law.
Another feature of the bill is the preservation, as a distinct bureau, of the Provost Marshal General's office, the Provost Marshal General, and his assistants. That section is one which will be the subject of objections by gentlemen. It will be for consideration when we come to that section whether it shall be retained or not as a part of the bill. I only pause to say in regard to it now, as it will be fully discussed hereafter, that this was a great means for recruiting and keeping up the Army, and the committee thought some such bureau was necessary for the purpose of recruiting, as the mode of procedure heretofore in the Army has been for the most part a decided failure.
It will be observed that the committee has departed from another general feature as ex; hibited in the bill which the Senate has laid upon our table. I am only doing justice by say. ing that in the last modification to the bill which passed that branch the Senate introduced the same thing proposed by the Committee on Military Affairs of the House. We have not confined the selections of officers to be appointed to fill up original vacancies in the various arms of the service to volunteer officers as was originally done, but it is proposed to extend them to all volunteers, whether officers or soldiers, who can by examination prove themselves possessed of the requisite qualifications, having regard to services in connection with those qualifications.
There is another feature in the Senate bill differing very much from that contained in the substitute. There is a provision contained in one section of the Senate bill in regard to selections for the filling up of the officers of these newly organized regiments, that where two thirds shall be taken from the volunteer officers and soldiers, and the other third shall be selected at the discretion of the President from the regular Army and elsewhere, all the regular Army officers who have during the war commanded volunteer troops shall be counted either as regular Army officers or as volunteers. It struck the committee of the House that here was a provision by which it might be possible, though I do not say it was so, for the regular Army officers who had not been in command of volunteer troops during the war, to carry away the first third of the prizes, and then remit to the enjoyment of the other two thirds these regular Army officers who had commanded olunteer troops.
We do not adopt any such feature in the bill But if the regiments are filled up to the maxnow proposed. And to avoid all possible mistake | imum it will add $100,000 more for pay alone, we have inserted in lieu of it a section provid- | making the whole amount upwards of one miling that no officer of the regular Army who has lion two hundred and fifty thousand dollars commanded volunteer forces during the war, for the additional five regiments, besides the shall on that account be held to be a volnn. expense of supporting them and keeping them
in the field. There is another provision that is new-a I am told, I do not know whether it be true provision for revising the whole Army list, as or not, that this increase of regiments is in it now stands, in order to determine what offi- reference to the organization of the Veteran cers may properly be retained in the service. Reserve corps, and that it is designed to be the This may be thought very radical. It may be means of furnishing employment and subsistthought that men who have enjoyed the ad- ence to men in that corps. Í submit that when vantage of their commissions in the regular | it is known, as I believe every gentleman when Army, whether appointed from the Military he comes to reflect upon it will see and know, Academy, or from civil life, or from volunteers
that this Veteran Reserve corps is composed of since the war began, should, by reason of be. men who have been disqualified for active sering found now in the Army, continue there vice in the field, and who are pronounced to until regularly dismissed by court-martial, and be unfit for anything but light duty in fortifiin that manner alone.
cations, it will be seen that it will be wisdom , The committee have thought otherwise, and on the part of the Government to increase the that now, in this transition period, when we pensions of these men rather than to incur this are establishing a new army as it were, taking || additional expense for the purpose of putting the old Army and expanding and solidifying men into the field who are not competent for it, one mode of making the Army serviceable the duties of the field. would be to have a general revision of all those I have no desire whatever to do any injuswho now constitute its officers, in order to de- tice to any man who has served under this termine whether they should all, or only a part Government during this war. But I wish to of them, be retained. Accordingly we have see the Army of the United States efficient, introduced a provision which will not by any whether at post or in the field. And therefore possibility interfere with many of the oflicers, | I believe public policy demands that we should and which may not interfere with any. And it pension those who have been unfortunate, and is not a star-chamber mode of procedure, but keep up the most efficient organization it is a fair mode by which every Army service shall possible for us to do in the field. be represented in a general council of officers, This bill contemplates that this Reserve who shall allow the whole Army list to be re- corps shall be kept on post duty. Of course tained; certainly all against whom there is no the oflicers of the regular Army are to be sent objection. Then, in regard to others, they are off into the field, where they will have no opto report, not that a particular officer shall be portunities for the ordinary recreations or enjoy. dismissed or deprived of his commission, but ments which they may occasionally have under simply that he shall come before the board and the present system of service. Now, this thing have his whole case fairly examined, after which should be equalized; regiments which have the board shall resolve whether he shall con- been stationed in hot climates or at sickly tinue in the Army or not.
posts in one season should be transferred to [Here the hammer fell.]
other posts as has been the practice of the Mr. HALE. I move that the time of the Department heretofore, and thus we should gentleman be extended.
have uniformity and fairness in the disposition Mr. SCHENCK. Upon the whole, I prefer
of the Army. to withhold any further explanation now, and
These are the only remarks I desire to make to make it upon the sections as they are re
on this section. I will move to strike out ported.
“fifty-five” and insert the word“
1“ fifty'' before The SPEAKER. The gentleman will be
the words “regiments of infantry.” entitled to the floor on each section.
Mr. BLAINE. Without debating all the The first section was reported, as follows:
points raised by the gentleman from New York,
Mr. Davis,] I would suggest to him to observe Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress
that this first section is rather a preamble to assembled. That the military peace establishment of
the bill, as it may be termed, than a part of the the United States shall hereafter consist of five regi- bill itself. The point at which he aims is enments of artillery, twelve regiments of cavalry, fiftyfive regiments of infantry, the professors and corps
tirely embraced in the fifth section of this bill; cadets of the United States Military Academy, and the question in regard to retaining the Veteran such other forces as shall be provided for by this act, Reserve corps in service comes up directly in to be known as the Army of the United States.
the consideration of that fifth section. And Mr. DAVIS. Mr. Speaker, this bill creates therefore I suggest to him to waive his motion an army of fifty-five regiments of infantry. The to amend this first section, and make it when bill that passed the Senate on the 6th of March the fifth section shall be up for consideration. last provided for the organization of fifty such If his amendment shall be adopted there, of regiments, and I have understood from officers course the first section will be altered accordof the Army that that number is deemed suf- || ingly, as we alter the preamble to a bill or resficient for the purposes of the country.
olution after having changed the bill or resoluI have taken the trouble to ascertain what tion by amendment. I think if he will do that additional amount of expense this Govern- it will be more pertinent and more intelligible ment will be subjected to by reason of the to the House. increase from fifty to fifty-five infantry regi- Mr. DAVIS. Before I sit down, I desire ments. If you look at the pay proper of these to send up to the Clerk's desk a substitute which five regiments alone, without regard to sub- I propose to offer for this entire bill; it is the sistence, clothing, and equipment, or to any, Senate bill on this subject. thing else, the number of men being limited The SPEAKER. The substitute cannot be to fifty in each company, as it is proposed to acted upon now; it must be reserved until this limit it by this bill, then the annual additional | bill shall have been perfected section by section. expense will be $828,869 90.
The gentleman can give notice of his intention Then there are a great many contingencies to move a substitute at the proper time. connected with that service which have not The question was upon the amendment of gone into this computation, such as equip- Mr. Davis to the first section, to reduce the inent, rations, forage, and everything of that number of regiments from fifty-five to fifty. nature.
Mr. BLAINE. Let me make a suggestion. Now, sir, if these five regiments proposed || The motion of the gentleman from New York by this bill are not necessary for the country, || [Mr. Davis) involves a very wide discussion at I for one feel desirous that it should be relieved à premature point. Now, I hope the gentlefrom this additional expense.
man will heed my suggestion, which is, that the I have made this computation upon the basis point he desires to accomplish can be more diof the minimum number provided by this bill. rectly reached by moving an amendment to the